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Committee of the Whole · September 06, 2023 · Item 8.1

Refreshed Territorial Acknowledgement for the City of Guelph, included in the report titled Refreshed Territorial Acknowledgement, dated September 6 2023, be approved.

Main motion under the agenda item Refreshed Territorial Acknowledgment, 2023-59

Carried (13 to 0)

13 in favour, 0 against — unanimous

What was voted on

The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.

That the refreshed Territorial Acknowledgement for the City of Guelph, included in the report titled Refreshed Territorial Acknowledgement, dated September 6 2023, be approved.

Moved by Councillor Busuttil, seconded by Councillor Klassen.

How the room voted

In favour (13)

  • Allt
  • Billings
  • Busuttil
  • Caron
  • Caton
  • Chew
  • Downer
  • Gibson
  • Goller
  • Guthrie
  • Klassen
  • O'Rourke
  • Richardson

Who spoke to it

Sara Sayyed, Senior Advisor, Equity, Anti-Racism and Indigenous Initiatives, discussed the process that occurred to draft the new territorial acknowledgment. Dawn Owen, Museum Curator, expanded on the exercises staff underwent to write the new territorial acknowledgement. Kimberly Krawczyk, Manager, Policy and Intergovernmental Relations, introduced the new territorial acknowledgment and the next steps in the process.

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What was said

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57:45for the City of Guelph for your approval.

57:51Over the past year, we have worked together internally

57:53across departments and with external partners

57:56to bring this presentation to you today.

57:59This year long journey we undertook

58:01was just as important as the final words

58:03that we are presenting to you today

58:04in our Refresh Territorial Acknowledgement.

58:07Today we hope to take you on a condensed version

58:09of this journey.

58:11The city's territorial acknowledgement is established

58:14with different intent than the traditional custom

58:16of many First Nations, as we described in the report.

58:20What we present today acknowledges

58:23that the lands where Guelph is situated

58:24had a rich history, culture and governance structure,

58:28which existed long before settler contact.

58:31We began this process thinking it was a relatively simple task

58:35of adjusting a few phrases to improve

58:36the historical accuracy and recognition.

58:39Through input and consultation, we quickly realized

58:42that there was much more depth and importance

58:44to the words that we bring before you today.

58:46And as we move through our journey,

58:48we listened, reflected, unlearned and reflected some more.

58:52We opened our hearts and mind, and I can say with certainty

58:55that each of us involved in this process

58:57felt a roller coaster of emotions.

59:01There is a heaviness of responsibility

59:03and also the satisfaction of having started the journey

59:05of learning and relationship building.

59:08Each word we have included is significant and intentional,

59:12reflecting our commitment to building

59:14and strengthening relationships

59:16and moving forward on the journey of reconciliation.

59:31So the museum is entrusted to represent

59:34the full and truthful stories of our community

59:36from perspectives as plentiful and diverse

59:39as the community itself, and to amplify voices

59:42that have traditionally been underrepresented.

59:45As such, the museum had a role to play in the process

59:48that led to the city's 2016 territory acknowledgement.

59:53The Truth and Reconciliation Commission's report

59:55and the 94 Calls to Action released in 2015

59:59ignited action within the museum and the city

1:00:02to extend deep in and make new relationships

1:00:06with the local indigenous community,

1:00:09and to set our commitment to learning

1:00:11and sharing all historical truths

1:00:13of the place we call Guelph.

1:00:15The Calls to Action centered the importance

1:00:18of collaboration with indigenous peoples and communities.

1:00:22The museum hosted a blanket exercise

1:00:24for city staff and council created

1:00:26by the Aboriginal Rights Coalition.

1:00:29The blanket exercise uses indigenous methodologies

1:00:32to help rather to build understanding

1:00:35about our shared history as indigenous

1:00:37and non-indigenous peoples in Canada

1:00:40by walking participants through the experience

1:00:43of pre-contact, treaty making, colonization,

1:00:47and resistance.

1:00:49The blanket exercise centers truth before reconciliation.

1:00:54As colleagues in this work, Guelph museums

1:00:57and the city of Guelph understood

1:00:59that the 2016 territorial acknowledgement

1:01:02was one part of a continuous journey toward reconciliation.

1:01:07Centered in truth and an ongoing commitment

1:01:10to nurturing relationships,

1:01:12both with the people and the land,

1:01:15in the place we call Guelph.

1:01:23The 2016 territorial acknowledgement

1:01:25was the first iteration of where the city understood itself

1:01:28to be in its understanding of reconciliation.

1:01:36As I stepped into my new role as senior advisor,

1:01:39I had received a letter from Six Nations of the Grand River

1:01:42that highlighted the historical complexity of this region

1:01:45and the complexity of our relationships

1:01:47with indigenous communities.

1:01:49This was the start of my personal learning journey

1:01:51around the importance of the territorial acknowledgement

1:01:54and the history of the place we now call Guelph.

1:01:58Even before engagement for the refresh had started,

1:02:02we heard from the community

1:02:03that our territorial acknowledgement

1:02:04and related information on the website

1:02:07held in historical inaccuracies through omission.

1:02:11We also heard that the words felt sterile

1:02:13and lacked any real emotion

1:02:14and that the acknowledgement felt more like a checkbox exercise

1:02:18rather than holding any true meaning.

1:02:20And so together with my colleagues,

1:02:21we initiated the first of many engagement sessions

1:02:24to address what we had heard.

1:02:26We received input from those you can see listed on the slide.

1:02:30Above, the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation

1:02:33and Six Nations of the Grand River Elected Council

1:02:35provided us with an overview

1:02:36of the complex history of this region.

1:02:39And we learned about the rich culture and legacy

1:02:41of the many nations they call this region home.

1:02:45We took a day to visit Ekina Magaya-Gamik,

1:02:48the Lodge of Learning,

1:02:49to learn more about history and governance.

1:02:52And we spoke to local community members

1:02:54for the need for accuracy and representation

1:02:57of those who continue to call this place home

1:03:00and those whose personal journeys brought them here

1:03:02from other places.

1:03:04Mostly we learned that we have much more listening,

1:03:06understanding and learning to do in order to move forward

1:03:10and that that responsibility was ours.

1:03:19With this guidance in hand,

1:03:20we took the time to listen, reflect and learn.

1:03:23Dr. Waykamp at the University of Guelph

1:03:25was most gracious in getting us started

1:03:27with resources to read and watch,

1:03:29which led to more reading questions and reflections.

1:03:32Some of those documents and articles are listed here,

1:03:35which I encourage you to read in your time.

1:03:38We also contacted surrounding municipalities

1:03:40and the universities and asked local organizations

1:03:43about their engagement and processes

1:03:45to ensure we were using best practices.

1:03:52Through this process, we took the time

1:03:54to understand the complex histories

1:03:55and relationships between nations,

1:03:58to learn the meanings of the terms we used

1:04:00and to ensure we use them correctly.

1:04:02We took note that First Nations did not just exist

1:04:05in some distance past, but are very much present

1:04:07and an important part of the future.

1:04:10We noted that pronunciation matters

1:04:12as does language and grammar.

1:04:14Through this entire process,

1:04:16we also took the time to step back and reflect,

1:04:18to further our knowledge based on the information

1:04:20and inputs we gathered

1:04:22and to understand how to best proceed.

1:04:29Most significantly, we learned about the importance

1:04:31of being personally involved

1:04:33and connected to the words spoken and acknowledgement.

1:04:36We asked ourselves questions like,

1:04:38what is our relationship to the land as individuals,

1:04:41staff members, and as a city?

1:04:43How do we benefit from this relationship

1:04:45and where are we in the journey to reconciliation?

1:04:48And even before we put a single word to paper,

1:04:50we reflected deeply on these questions.

1:04:52And so partway through the journey we pivoted

1:04:55and we realized the end goal was not just

1:04:56a refreshed territorial acknowledgement,

1:04:58but this was part of a journey towards reconciliation.

1:05:02And so what did we learn and where did this take us?

1:05:05We now have a better understanding

1:05:07of how important learning and education is

1:05:09for the city to move forward

1:05:10and incorporating reconciliation in our daily work.

1:05:14We have arrived at strengthened relationships,

1:05:17building, relationship building through engagement.

1:05:20It is important to clarify that obtaining full support

1:05:22from indigenous communities was not the intention

1:05:25or outcome we sought.

1:05:26We focused however on strong collaboration

1:05:29and gathering inputs from both our treaty partners

1:05:31and indigenous natives.

1:05:33These relationships are of vital importance

1:05:35as we advance reconciliation.

1:05:37It is important to remember that the territorial acknowledgement

1:05:39was created for the city and is used by the city

1:05:42as a way to acknowledge the history

1:05:44and traditional uses of this land.

1:05:47And finally, as we present the territorial acknowledgement

1:05:49today, we want to make sure we can reflect

1:05:51the evolution of guide direction

1:05:54by ensuring this remains a living process

1:05:56open for reflection and revisions.

1:06:06And so now we would just like to take a pause

1:06:09with the meeting and allow for each of you

1:06:11to read and reflect on the refresh territorial acknowledgement

1:06:14that you have in front of you.

1:06:16I encourage each of you to read the words with intention,

1:06:19acknowledging their purpose, their meaning, and their impact.

1:06:50The acknowledgement you just read

1:06:52represents phase one of our process.

1:06:55It's intended to be used in formal settings

1:06:57such as these as we're here today

1:06:59where decisions are being made.

1:07:01We are also committed to establishing

1:07:03a second phase to this process.

1:07:06This additional phase will provide an opportunity

1:07:08to speak about a more personal connection land.

1:07:11This more personal version would be used

1:07:13in more informal settings,

1:07:15such as being out in the community

1:07:16where no decisions are being made.

1:07:18Phase two will also be accompanied by training,

1:07:21learning, and guidance to support staff and council

1:07:24when using this extended option.

1:07:31Reconciliation is both an ongoing and non-linear process

1:07:35with no defined end.

1:07:37The city is committed to reconciliation

1:07:40and continues to advance initiatives

1:07:42such as the selection of the sacred fire site

1:07:44in Royal City Park,

1:07:46hosting sharing circles with indigenous communities,

1:07:49and now with the process

1:07:50to refresh the territorial acknowledgement.

1:07:53While these initiatives show progress

1:07:55and a commitment to working together,

1:07:57our journey must continue forwards.

1:07:59And that's why on September 20th,

1:08:01staff in partnership with the organization Kairos

1:08:04will be facilitating a blanket exercise workshop

1:08:07with council.

1:08:08Just as Dawn spoke about the museum's experience

1:08:11with the blanket exercise,

1:08:13this will be an important and immersive hands-on experience

1:08:17to help build knowledge and understanding

1:08:20of indigenous histories and current experiences.

1:08:24Given the city's desire to continue advancing reconciliation

1:08:28through learning, knowledge, and understanding,

1:08:30we are also in the process of initiating the city's

1:08:33indigenous relations framework

1:08:35to guide the next chapter in our journey.

1:08:42The indigenous relations framework

1:08:44will be undertaken with the guidance of a consultant

1:08:46and the input and collaboration

1:08:48from our indigenous treaty partners,

1:08:50neighbors, and community members.

1:08:53The framework will provide guidance and structure

1:08:55to the city to improve indigenous relations

1:08:57and reconciliation as part of an organization-wide effort.

1:09:01It also creates the foundation for the city to adopt actions

1:09:05from international and national documents

1:09:07such as the Truth in Reconciliation calls to action

1:09:10and the United Nations Declaration

1:09:12on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

1:09:14This framework will help identify where Guelph

1:09:16can adopt changes or take action to work towards achieving

1:09:20a shared vision for the city's indigenous relations.

1:09:23Currently, we are forecasted to be able to share

1:09:25this framework with you in 2024,

1:09:27in time for the National Day of Truth and Reconciliation

1:09:31in September.

1:09:33Now, before we turn this back over to all of you

1:09:35for further discussion,

1:09:36we wanted to close this presentation

1:09:38with a quote from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission

1:09:40of Canada, which you can see on the slide here.

1:09:43It helps to remind us why we're all here today

1:09:46and why we must continue and are committed

1:09:49to continue on the journey ahead.

1:09:51Thank you.

1:09:54Thank you so much to staff and all the partners involved

1:10:00in this refresh.

1:10:01I'm sure I speak on behalf of council

1:10:03that we appreciate the work that's gone into this.

1:10:07So thank you very much.

1:10:09I'm just gonna look to vice chair of governance,

1:10:13would you be willing to move the recommendation?

1:10:15So Councillor Bousintil will move it

1:10:18with someone who will be willing to second it.

1:10:19Thank you, Councillor Klassen.

1:10:22Is there any questions at all?

1:10:25Question, I'm gonna go to Gibson, Karan and then O'Rourke.

1:10:29Thank you.

1:10:31Yeah, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1:10:32Question for the presenter.

1:10:34Just the territorial acknowledgement.

1:10:37I understand the sensitivities of the topic we're discussing

1:10:40and I know means, I'm asking this from a place

1:10:44of wanting more knowledge.

1:10:47The term, we are guests here.

1:10:50Can I ask for some clarity?

1:10:52Simply because I know there will be many people

1:10:55in this city that call this place home

1:10:58and acknowledge this place as multi-generational home

1:11:01for them and their families.

1:11:04How does this message resonate with generations of people

1:11:09that would consider a wealth their home?

1:11:11And now we're being told we're guests.

1:11:17Yeah, through the mayor to Councillor Gibson,

1:11:20thank you for that question.

1:11:21And as we said, each and every word,

1:11:24we thought about this with great intent

1:11:27and thought process put into this.

1:11:30And as we learned more about the Indigenous ways of learning

1:11:33and being, their concept of ownership

1:11:36and not taking more than they need from the land

1:11:41was very much in the fore.

1:11:43And with that concept, and given the current state

1:11:48of our environment, we thought it was important

1:11:51to try to make that come through,

1:11:54that we are all guests on the land

1:11:57and that we need to treat it in the manner

1:11:59as you would a guest in somebody else's home.

1:12:02So regardless of whether you build your home here

1:12:05or multi-generational generations,

1:12:06I myself have four generations of families

1:12:10for over 30 years now.

1:12:12So that comment resonates with me as well.

1:12:17And I do consider this my home,

1:12:18but as such, I also would like to treat it

1:12:22with that same propriety in knowing

1:12:25that we preserve it for our future generations.

1:12:28Thank you. That's a great response.

1:12:31That's a great answer.

1:12:32I guess my follow-up question is,

1:12:34at the outset of the statement,

1:12:36we are recognizing that we collectively

1:12:39are meeting on historical Indigenous land.

1:12:44So we are acknowledging that we are settlers,

1:12:46we collectively are settlers

1:12:48and we're meeting on Indigenous land.

1:12:51It's a difficult transition to then say collectively

1:12:54all of society are guests here

1:12:56because I think we're insinuating that we are acknowledging

1:13:04we're meeting on traditional land,

1:13:05but then we as in all of society are guests to the land.

1:13:10Is there a way to create that distinction

1:13:13where the we, the second time we use we,

1:13:16is a much more inclusive of all people,

1:13:19our guests on the land,

1:13:20not just what many people will interpret

1:13:23to be newcomers to the land.

1:13:34Thanks through the mayor to Councillor Gibson.

1:13:36Yeah.

1:13:38So I think certainly this is the city's territorial

1:13:42acknowledgement and the person who is reading it

1:13:44gives this as they speak for themselves

1:13:47and the group they are gathered with.

1:13:49That's why you'll see the territorial acknowledgement

1:13:52has this potential to be extended

1:13:55in more less formal circumstances, frankly,

1:13:59where you can speak to your connection to the land

1:14:01and to the community if you have an Indigenous connection

1:14:05that is meaningful and you want to share it

1:14:07as part of the land, the territorial acknowledgement,

1:14:12that's perfectly fine.

1:14:14And so I think that's why we've found it appropriate

1:14:17to do sort of a phase one

1:14:19that we've worked carefully with our partners

1:14:22to ensure is respectful and appropriate

1:14:24for where we are right now

1:14:26and then leave some room for a more personal reflection

1:14:29of your connection to the land and the community.

1:14:36Okay.

1:14:37Maybe I'll just, my comments for the record,

1:14:39I would have preferred it to say we are all guests here.

1:14:43All members of society are guests on the land

1:14:45rather than what I believe seems to be an insinuation

1:14:49that only some of us are guests here.

1:14:51I'll leave it at that.

1:14:53I won't be voting against,

1:14:54but I would have preferred it to be a bit more

1:14:57of an inclusive comment that all members of society

1:15:00are guests on the land.

1:15:01But those are just my comments.

1:15:03Thank you.

1:15:06Thanks and through the mayor,

1:15:07we'll certainly take that away between here

1:15:08in the end of the month.

1:15:12Okay. Thank you so much.

1:15:15I believe Councillor Kerrion was next please.

1:15:20I appreciate the question and the any answer

1:15:22to the question that was just posed

1:15:24because I think it speaks to the reality

1:15:27that when we each use the acknowledgement.

1:15:32Councillor Kerrion, I'm so sorry to interrupt you.

1:15:34We're just having trouble hearing you in here.

1:15:36And I don't think it's you.

1:15:38I think it's been some audio issues already today

1:15:42a little bit.

1:15:43So maybe could you try moving a bit closer

1:15:45and just to see if you can speak up a bit more?

1:15:49Again, I'm sorry to ask you of that

1:15:50because I don't think it's you.

1:15:51There's been other audio things happening

1:15:53in the meeting here,

1:15:54but go ahead, I'll turn it back over to you.

1:15:56Sure. I'm actually right in front of my microphone and camera.

1:16:00So I'm not sure how much closer I can go.

1:16:05I can try turning off my video.

1:16:08No, you've already increased volume by about 25% there.

1:16:13So keep going. You're great.

1:16:14Okay. Great.

1:16:16I just want to thank our staff

1:16:18for the answer to previous Councillor's question

1:16:21because what it underlines to me

1:16:24is that the interpretation of our words

1:16:27is very personal and very intentional.

1:16:29And so this is leading to a question.

1:16:32I know that I have some Métis background in my family,

1:16:37but I was not raised in an Indigenous culture.

1:16:41So I don't feel that I can speak

1:16:43or reflect any Indigenous knowledge in my role

1:16:47as a Councillor or as a member of society.

1:16:50But what I do do is I phrase my words

1:16:55so that it is understood.

1:16:56And I certainly have always felt

1:16:58that even though 400 years later,

1:17:01I'm still a guest on this land

1:17:04and that I'm only here for, you know, God willing,

1:17:07I'm only here for 80 years.

1:17:08So I'm a temporary guest on this planet.

1:17:12And so I will speak words that allude to that relationship.

1:17:18So my question is along those lines

1:17:21is that this is an evolving process

1:17:23and my nature would have been to actually wordsmith

1:17:26the territorial knowledge

1:17:28to change all the we shoulds, to let S's

1:17:30and change some words.

1:17:31And then I stopped myself and said, no,

1:17:33no, this is a city acknowledgement.

1:17:35And some really great work by our staff

1:17:38is reflected in this recommendation

1:17:39and I'm not going to change a single word.

1:17:42But the staff have alluded to an evolutionary process

1:17:47and a process where there will be changes

1:17:50as we move forward for different types of events.

1:17:53And I'm just wondering now that this phase is complete,

1:17:57when is the timing for that next phase?

1:18:00When will phase three occur

1:18:02and how often will the acknowledgement be reviewed?

1:18:09Through you, Mr. Mayor and to Councillor Caron.

1:18:12In terms of timing for our second phase

1:18:14of the acknowledgement process

1:18:16that speaks more to the person's actions,

1:18:18we would be looking to really begin that phase

1:18:20with the blanket exercise on September 20th.

1:18:23So the workshop with really be able to kick off

1:18:26that secondary phase to enable us to undertake that learning,

1:18:32that training and that guidance

1:18:34to really start the process on that second piece.

1:18:37Okay, that's great.

1:18:38We enthusiastically supporting this recommendation.

1:18:43Great, thank you, Councillor.

1:18:47I believe my next Councillor on the list is O'Rourke.

1:18:52Thank you, Mayor Guthrie.

1:18:52I have a very straightforward question.

1:18:55I'm just looking at the slide that talks about engagement.

1:18:58Sorry, it's jumping around here.

1:19:00And I don't see the Grand River Metis Council.

1:19:04And I'm just wondering if they've been engaged,

1:19:06like we do the little flag raising,

1:19:09they were amazing at the end of June

1:19:13at the First Nations celebration.

1:19:15And so we see them fairly regularly.

1:19:17And I'm just wondering what the level of engagement

1:19:19was with the Metis.

1:19:22Through the Mayor to Councillor O'Rourke,

1:19:24we did reach out to the Metis Council

1:19:26in our original round of engagements

1:19:29in September and October of 2022.

1:19:34At that time, they were going through elections

1:19:36and asked us to reach back out

1:19:37just to make sure we were speaking to the same council

1:19:41and elected folks.

1:19:43After that, we were not able to connect with them

1:19:45for a number of reasons on there.

1:19:48And there was some health issues

1:19:51or something else that went on.

1:19:53I did leave a number of emails with them.

1:19:55And so we do have a number of outreach attempts.

1:20:00But I have heard through others that they did read

1:20:04and received the emails that we did send them.

1:20:09Through you, Mr. Mayor, and to Councillor O'Rourke,

1:20:11we also had some engagement with the Metis Council

1:20:15in prior experiences, like Sara had described.

1:20:18And one of the pieces of feedback

1:20:20that we did receive from them is that

1:20:21while they enjoy being included,

1:20:24number of the different engagements we do

1:20:25on Indigenous relations,

1:20:27when it comes to the territorial acknowledgement,

1:20:29they don't have any land rights or land claims

1:20:32here in Ontario in this situation,

1:20:34and therefore did not feel like they should be included

1:20:37in the territorial acknowledgement specifically.

1:20:40Okay.

1:20:41So through you, Mayor Gathrop,

1:20:42they will be involved in other dimensions

1:20:44of our Indigenous framework.

1:20:46That's correct, yes.

1:20:47Thanks very much.

1:20:48Okay, and Claeson, please.

1:20:51Thank you, and through you, Mr. Mayor, to staff.

1:20:54Thank you for this work.

1:20:55This is hard, challenging work,

1:20:58and I often find myself confronted with it

1:21:01when making decisions here around the horseshoe,

1:21:03so I appreciate it.

1:21:05In the spirit of keeping it short,

1:21:09maybe this is a question to take away,

1:21:10but as a council, as we move forward

1:21:14towards reconciliation as a staff

1:21:16and with the territorial acknowledgement,

1:21:18and also the blanket exercise,

1:21:21my question is how else can we support?

1:21:24How else as a council can we support you,

1:21:28but also be more active in our role in reconciliation?

1:21:37Through Mayor Gathrop to Councillor Klassen,

1:21:39thank you very much for the support,

1:21:41and for your comments.

1:21:42We'll certainly be able to engage Council in a fulsome way

1:21:45as we work through the Indigenous relations framework,

1:21:47and our community celebrates many important days

1:21:52with the Indigenous community,

1:21:53one of which is at the end of this month,

1:21:55and so we'll make a point of sharing with you

1:21:58some opportunities to engage with our community

1:22:00and better understand from them and with them

1:22:03how they wish to be recognized,

1:22:05but certainly the Indigenous relations framework

1:22:07is another important milestone

1:22:09in working with our colleagues in human resources.

1:22:11We'll also look for training beyond the blanket exercise

1:22:14to continue to bring to council on this topic.

1:22:18Thank you, it's appreciated.

1:22:21Any resources to be shared, I think would be very helpful.

1:22:25Thank you.

1:22:27Great, thank you.

1:22:28Seeing nothing further off questions,

1:22:31would it be okay for me to call the vote,

1:22:35or would anyone like to say something before?

1:22:38It looks like I can call the vote.

1:22:39Oh, Erin, I'm sorry, Councillor Katelyn, sorry,

1:22:41go right ahead.

1:22:43No worries, through you to staff.

1:22:44I just wanted to say thank you very much.

1:22:46It was really great work.

1:22:47And I think it's important to recognize

1:22:50as non-Indigenous people,

1:22:52if that is your personal situation,

1:22:54that our feelings are not the important ones right now,

1:23:01and that centering the Indigenous community

1:23:03is the point of reconciliation.

1:23:06So I'm really glad that you did that,

1:23:08and I appreciate all of the hard work that went into it.

1:23:11Thank you.

1:23:13Thank you so much.

1:23:15Okay, I'll call the vote then.

1:23:16Is anyone against the refresh

1:23:19of this territorial acknowledgement?

1:23:22That is nobody, that is unanimous.

1:23:24Again, Ditto, thank you so much to everyone involved,

1:23:28we really appreciate it.

1:23:30Okay, I don't think I have any other

1:23:33further announcements at this time.

1:23:37Actually, yeah, I am gonna do a quick announcement

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