Committee of Management for the Elliott · March 05, 2024 · Item 5.
Committee of Management for the Elliott meeting be adjourned. (1:14 p.m.)
Main motion under the agenda item Adjournment
Carried (6 to 0)
6 in favour, 0 against — unanimous
What was voted on
The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.
That the Committee of Management for the Elliott meeting be adjourned. (1:14 p.m.)
Moved by Councillor Chew, seconded by Councillor Busuttil.
How the room voted
In favour (6)
- Busuttil
- Caton
- Chew
- Downer
- Klassen
- O'Rourke
What was said
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16:11in terms of expectations.
16:12So we are not seeing the longer lead times
16:19that we were before.
16:20It seems to be more consistent
16:21in terms of getting things turned around
16:23for most of our supplies.
16:25That being said, there are a few random purchases,
16:30some furniture that seems to just be taking a lot longer
16:35than we expected.
16:35For the most part, it's back to normal,
16:37but there is a few items that are longer.
16:40So as part of our plan for the construction,
16:42we've already reached out to our furniture suppliers
16:45to see what their lead times are
16:47and we're working with them to make sure
16:48we have everything we need when we need it.
16:51Okay, thanks.
16:52I remember hearing stories about the cost of masks
16:55having gone up by a couple hundred percent.
16:58So just curious about that.
16:59And then just looking at page five of the report
17:04to the committee of management,
17:05you have an interim administrator.
17:07I'm just wondering if you could update this committee
17:09on the search for your administrator
17:14for the long-term care, please.
17:17Through chair Downer to councillor O'Rourke,
17:19the question regarding the administrator.
17:20So we have an interim person
17:21who unfortunately was on holidays today,
17:23so is joining us.
17:25The recruitment has been underway
17:28for the new administrator.
17:30We're doing final interviews this week actually
17:32and hope to have something to bring forward
17:35in the coming weeks.
17:37Yeah, that's great news.
17:38Thanks.
17:39I've got a couple of other questions
17:40about the redevelopment,
17:41but I'm happy to see the floor
17:43if somebody else had some questions first.
17:47Thank you.
17:48Are there any other questions that anybody would like to ask?
17:54Michelle.
17:56Okay, we'll go back to you.
18:00You've got the floor.
18:02Absolutely.
18:03Thank you.
18:04So just shifting to the appendix.
18:07So there will be a delay for those new long-term care beds,
18:11but has there been any concern expressed
18:13from the Ministry of Long-term Care regarding that delay
18:16or is this pretty normal in a bed redevelopment?
18:27Thanks for the question.
18:28So in terms of contact with our ministry,
18:31we've spoken to our ministry liaison.
18:34There was no concerns on their end
18:36in terms of meeting the guidelines
18:42or the expectations they had for finishing the project.
18:47It seems to be pretty common
18:49that they're experiencing this with other projects.
18:51So it wasn't a huge surprise when we contacted them
18:54to say we were a little bit later than expected.
18:58Okay, great.
18:59And through you, Chair Downer,
19:01just a question for clarity at the bottom of your page two
19:06in the appendix and our page 10 in our consolidated package.
19:10I'm just asking for clarification
19:12because I'm not quite sure what it means.
19:13What does it mean where it says,
19:14it's possible the delays will push out the date
19:16when the loan is required
19:18and that's for the construction loan.
19:20What does that mean and what's the impact of that?
19:25Through you, Chair Downer,
19:26to respond to that question about the loan.
19:28So we haven't drawn on the construction loan yet.
19:32Had we already used the construction loan,
19:36then the interest accruing would be longer.
19:40That was my concern.
19:42Since we haven't drawn on it yet,
19:43if we push that out further,
19:45then there'll be less interest costs
19:48than we had originally anticipated.
19:50So it's kind of waiting to see
19:52when we're gonna need that construction financing.
19:55I hope that answers the question.
19:58Sure, thanks.
19:59And then just a couple more.
20:01I'm just curious through you, Chair Downer.
20:04When we've had other large city construction projects,
20:07we know there's a percentage buffer.
20:09So you're indicating that there could be
20:12some cost overruns given some of the delays.
20:15But I'm just wondering if there's a percentage buffer
20:20in the original estimate, what that was,
20:24or if you think that that will be sufficient to absorb.
20:27And I understand there's a number of unknowns,
20:30but I'm just wondering what that buffer was.
20:38So we did build in some contingency
20:41into our overall construction budget.
20:43We are tracking that very closely
20:45and we still have some room left.
20:47So it looks like we'll still be okay
20:49not needing more funds for the construction itself.
20:53That's terrific.
20:54Thank you.
20:55And my last question, Chair Downer,
20:56through you to our representatives from the LAIT.
21:00First, I really appreciate the transparency.
21:02It's required, but it's also really appreciated.
21:05You have a project manager
21:07who is overseeing the construction.
21:10There's a construction manager.
21:11So did both of those have,
21:14or do both of those have long-term care experience?
21:17And is this something that just happens
21:21in these types of builds?
21:26Through Chair Downer to Councillor O'Rourke.
21:28So they did have healthcare experience.
21:31Long-term care is very specific.
21:33And we know with the increased number
21:36of approvals of beds,
21:37there was no construction for many years in long-term care.
21:40And now there's an influx.
21:42So some of that direct experience,
21:46it was very difficult to find that,
21:48but they had relevant healthcare experience.
21:52And with that, they've worked hard to under,
21:55they understand the sector
21:59and the regulations attached to it
22:01through the design standards as well,
22:03which are not that different from hospital
22:07and other environments.
22:08They're unique and different,
22:10but there's some similarities.
22:11So, okay, thanks very much.
22:15Okay, thank you.
22:16Good questions.
22:18Are there any other questions from committee members?
22:24Okay, seeing none, thank you.
22:28I will go to a vote now.
22:29Is there anyone opposed to receiving the report?
22:34Okay, seeing none, that passes.
22:38And I would ask if there are any announcements
22:41from the chair or the Elliott community staff.
22:46I know there is from our staff.
22:48Do you have any announcements, Michelle, for us?
22:52Yes, Chair Jenner.
22:53So just wanted to announce
22:55that we're having our second annual Easter Egg Hunt.
22:58So members of the public can join on March 31st at the Elliott.
23:02So if you have any young people in your lives
23:04who would like to come and search for some eggs,
23:07we'd be happy to have anyone from the community join us.
23:11Perfect, is that inside or outside?
23:13Hopefully outside, yes.
23:15Okay, hopefully we don't get winter back.
23:20Great, thank you very much.
23:21Okay, Deputy CEO Blackbush.
23:25Thank you, Chair Downer.
23:26I just wanted to, I won't say introduce
23:29because you well know her,
23:30I acknowledge that Dana Evans is here this afternoon.
23:33In our recent corporate realignment,
23:34when we took a look at how our departments are structured
23:37as members of council, we'll know the way the city is structured
23:40is that everything operational reports up
23:42to a general manager as the department head
23:44and then up to a deputy CAO or the CAO.
23:48In the case of the Elliott, that was never put in place.
23:51And so in recognizing maybe a gap in our corporate alignment,
23:57we've made the shift and the Elliott,
24:00the responsibility sort of for being the front line liaison
24:03for the Elliott will now sit with Dana
24:05in her portfolio in culture and recreation.
24:07There's a really nice fit because of Dana's oversight
24:10of all of our facilities that we operate,
24:12all of our culture and rec facilities,
24:14but also because of Dana's oversight
24:15of our senior service area as well,
24:17the Evergreen Seniors Community Center.
24:19So Dana's gonna start being here
24:21at committee of management meetings.
24:22She will be the staff person who sits in
24:25on the Elliott board meetings.
24:27And so I just wanted to acknowledge her presence here today.
24:30And it gave me the opportunity
24:32to introduce her to Michelle and Teresa.
24:34I will still remain the deputy CAO of public services
24:37is still the license holder
24:39and the position with the delegated authority
24:41for the long-term care license,
24:43but the sort of operational day-to-day liaison responsibilities
24:47will transfer over to Dana.
24:52Thank you, welcome Dana.
24:54And thank you, Michelle and Teresa
24:58for coming in person today.
24:59It's nice to see you in person.
25:01And with that, I will have a motion to adjourn the meeting.
25:08Councillor Chew, seconded by Councillor Bousetail.
25:11Anyone opposed?
25:13Okay, that passes.
25:14The meeting adjourned.
25:15Thank you.
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