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Committee of Management for the Elliott · September 04, 2024 · Item 3.1

2024-Q2 quarterly report on the operations of The Elliott Long-Term Care Residence (the ELTCR), be received.

Main motion under the agenda item The Elliott Long-Term Care Residence Quarterly Report 2024 - Q2

Carried (6 to 0)

6 in favour, 0 against — unanimous

What was voted on

The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.

That the 2024-Q2 quarterly report on the operations of The Elliott Long-Term Care Residence (the ELTCR), be received.

Moved by Councillor Caton, seconded by Councillor O'Rourke.

How the room voted

In favour (6)

  • Busuttil
  • Caton
  • Chew
  • Downer
  • Klassen
  • O'Rourke

What council was given

The staff reports and correspondence attached to this item.

What was said

1,223 words from the meeting recording, transcribed automatically. Times are from the start of the recording.

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5:06Good afternoon.

5:10Welcome everybody to the beginning of September

5:12and what's the new beginnings today

5:15at schools and universities.

5:19So I'm gonna call to order

5:21the Committee of Management for the Elliott

5:24for today, September the 4th.

5:27And I'd like to first ask,

5:29are there any disclosure of pecuniary interests seeing none?

5:36Could I have the confirmation of minutes

5:39from the June 4th meeting?

5:42Councillor Bousatiel moves that,

5:44seconded by Councillor Crasin.

5:48I was just gonna say that, Crasin.

5:50And is there anyone, any discussion or questions?

5:55Is anyone in opposition?

5:58I think it's seeing none, that's passed.

6:01Okay, we have the on the consent agenda.

6:05We have the one item,

6:06the Elliott Long-Term Care Resident Quarterly Report

6:10for 2024 and the recommendation in front of us.

6:13And we have Michelle Carger here,

6:16the CEO from the Elliott and Theresa Moison

6:19and Martin Ruel, is that correct?

6:24Good, thanks to answer any questions.

6:28Do you have any comments first, Ms. Carger, on the report?

6:33Anything you'd like to add?

6:35Are there any questions of anyone in the,

6:40I have one too, but,

6:43can we ask for a work?

6:45Sure, thank you Chair Downer, through you too, Ms. Carger.

6:48So we know that there's a slight delay

6:50in terms of the opening of the long-term care beds.

6:53I'm just wondering, compared to other construction projects,

6:56is that sort of a par for the course in scope?

6:59I mean, it doesn't seem to be an exceptionally long delay,

7:01just one of those things that happens.

7:10Thanks for your question.

7:12So the delay is eight,

7:16can't remember if it's eight or 10 weeks, sorry.

7:19It's about two months late.

7:22I don't know if that's normal.

7:24I haven't been involved in a renovation before,

7:27so it doesn't feel,

7:31it's not gonna burden us in terms of financial long-term.

7:36It is a disappointment that the beds won't be open

7:40as early as we expected,

7:41but we'll be able to manage through that.

7:45Fantastic, thanks.

7:47Thanks, thank you.

7:49The question I have, so it is a couple of months late,

7:52so what would the move-in date be for residents

7:54in this work project?

8:00I thank you for the question.

8:01So we're now looking at the end of October,

8:05will be the first move-in.

8:06Would be the first move-in.

8:08And how many people are moving in?

8:1129.

8:12There are 29, good.

8:14Thank you.

8:15So we look forward to that.

8:17And congratulations, I know it's a couple months behind,

8:20but that's still something to celebrate.

8:22We go off.

8:23Councillor Ororak.

8:24Sorry, Chair Downer, I thought of another question.

8:27So through you too, Ms. Karker.

8:29We're excited about 29 new beds.

8:31Can you give us a sense of what the waiting list looks like

8:34and what a sense of the need in the community is?

8:38Well, through you, Chair Downer to Councillor Ororak.

8:41So 29 new beds is certainly a welcome to the community.

8:46Currently, first choice list numbers

8:52are approximately 850 people choosing the Elliott.

8:57That doesn't include the other long-term care beds in Guelph.

9:01Certainly there's a long waiting list of individuals

9:04that require long-term care in our community.

9:07Thanks.

9:11Thank you.

9:12I have one more question too.

9:13Given the rise in COVID,

9:15how is that playing out at the Elliott right now?

9:22At the moment where we don't have any COVID cases,

9:26we're not really seeing it as an operational

9:28or a risk challenge for our residents.

9:31And we're managing with our IPAC standards in place

9:34as per the guidelines.

9:37Excellent, thank you.

9:39Good, I have some, I do have a question.

9:41Okay, Councillor Boussa too.

9:44Thank you.

9:45I'm going to go through the report and for being here.

9:46I didn't want to ask the question

9:48because this is an operational report.

9:50But you talk about the waiting list of 800

9:54and that is daunting.

9:55And so my question is when or do we see

9:58some kind of a strategic plan, capital vision thing of,

10:05and does it come to us or is that not our role?

10:08If you can just kind of give me a sense of,

10:12this is what we're dreaming of,

10:13this is where we're going kind of thing

10:15in terms of additional beds.

10:16And I know I've raised this with DCAO, Klack Busch of,

10:20who does the planning for long-term care?

10:22Who is the holder of that information

10:25and finger on the pulse and who responds?

10:30And hearing that it's a private sector,

10:35kind of makes me worried about that.

10:37But just if you can respond to what kind of a role

10:40the Elliott has in terms of capital expansion

10:42and responding to that very real and growing need.

10:48Through you to Councillor Bustilli.

10:51So it's a complex answer.

10:53And I think I'll start off by saying

10:56the Ministry of Long-Term Care

10:58certainly is the holder of those approvals.

11:00That's the first piece.

11:04I think the second piece is we know there's a great need

11:07not only in our community but across the province.

11:10The latest stats show that long-term care

11:14requirements are going to only increase by anywhere

11:18from 10 to 25% over the next five plus years.

11:22That was the latest report that came out from Kaihai,

11:25which is the center that sort of gathers a lot of the data

11:29of who needs that kind of or requires that care.

11:35As far as the long-term care visioning,

11:37I think it's going to be something that we're looking at.

11:40We've been looking at.

11:42And I know there's sort of what we

11:45or other partners in the health system.

11:47We do know there'll be additional beds

11:49going into St. Joe's.

11:50They've been approved,

11:52but it could be a few years before we see those new beds.

11:55So it's really looking at it from a community perspective

11:57of what we can all do to play a role.

12:00And then of course, any planning we do

12:01would be in consultation and working with the city staff

12:05to see is there a need for the Elliott

12:10or should others actually step into that role as well?

12:13So I think it's a collaborative effort

12:15through our OHT partners,

12:17as well as sort of looking at what our community needs are

12:19and what is the provincial needs as well.

12:22Thank you, just a supplement if I can.

12:24So is it a coordinated planning approach to this?

12:31Yes, there would be a coordinated piece,

12:34but I know we're looking at it from an OHT.

12:36So Guelph Wellington Ontario Health Team

12:38is looking at it as well.

12:40So I work quite closely with our long-term care partners

12:44as well as our hospital partners

12:45and other health service and social service

12:48to see what we can do.

12:49And we have a number of projects that we're looking at

12:54of how we could bridge the gap for those

12:57that require long-term care services in our community,

13:00especially with the closure of other beds

13:03within the system as well.

13:04So it is a collaborative approach.

13:07And we are one piece of that collaboration.

13:11Thank you very much.

13:14Thank you.

13:15Are there any other questions from the committee members?

13:19Okay, thank you.

13:20Is somebody be willing to put the recommendation

13:23to receive on the floor?

13:26Councillor Caitlin, seconded by Councillor O'Rourke.

13:30Any more questions or comments?

13:34Thank you.

13:35Is there anyone opposed?

13:37Seeing none.

13:39Thank you.

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