Committee of Management for the Elliott

5:06Good afternoon.

5:10Welcome everybody to the beginning of September

5:12and what's the new beginnings today

5:15at schools and universities.

5:19So I'm gonna call to order

5:21the Committee of Management for the Elliott

5:24for today, September the 4th.

5:27And I'd like to first ask,

5:29are there any disclosure of pecuniary interests seeing none?

5:36Could I have the confirmation of minutes

5:39from the June 4th meeting?

5:42Councillor Bousatiel moves that,

5:44seconded by Councillor Crasin.

5:48I was just gonna say that, Crasin.

5:50And is there anyone, any discussion or questions?

5:55Is anyone in opposition?

5:58I think it's seeing none, that's passed.

6:01Okay, we have the on the consent agenda.

6:05We have the one item,

6:06the Elliott Long-Term Care Resident Quarterly Report

6:10for 2024 and the recommendation in front of us.

6:13And we have Michelle Carger here,

6:16the CEO from the Elliott and Theresa Moison

6:19and Martin Ruel, is that correct?

6:24Good, thanks to answer any questions.

6:28Do you have any comments first, Ms. Carger, on the report?

6:33Anything you'd like to add?

6:35Are there any questions of anyone in the,

6:40I have one too, but,

6:43can we ask for a work?

6:45Sure, thank you Chair Downer, through you too, Ms. Carger.

6:48So we know that there's a slight delay

6:50in terms of the opening of the long-term care beds.

6:53I'm just wondering, compared to other construction projects,

6:56is that sort of a par for the course in scope?

6:59I mean, it doesn't seem to be an exceptionally long delay,

7:01just one of those things that happens.

7:10Thanks for your question.

7:12So the delay is eight,

7:16can't remember if it's eight or 10 weeks, sorry.

7:19It's about two months late.

7:22I don't know if that's normal.

7:24I haven't been involved in a renovation before,

7:27so it doesn't feel,

7:31it's not gonna burden us in terms of financial long-term.

7:36It is a disappointment that the beds won't be open

7:40as early as we expected,

7:41but we'll be able to manage through that.

7:45Fantastic, thanks.

7:47Thanks, thank you.

7:49The question I have, so it is a couple of months late,

7:52so what would the move-in date be for residents

7:54in this work project?

8:00I thank you for the question.

8:01So we're now looking at the end of October,

8:05will be the first move-in.

8:06Would be the first move-in.

8:08And how many people are moving in?

8:1129.

8:12There are 29, good.

8:14Thank you.

8:15So we look forward to that.

8:17And congratulations, I know it's a couple months behind,

8:20but that's still something to celebrate.

8:22We go off.

8:23Councillor Ororak.

8:24Sorry, Chair Downer, I thought of another question.

8:27So through you too, Ms. Karker.

8:29We're excited about 29 new beds.

8:31Can you give us a sense of what the waiting list looks like

8:34and what a sense of the need in the community is?

8:38Well, through you, Chair Downer to Councillor Ororak.

8:41So 29 new beds is certainly a welcome to the community.

8:46Currently, first choice list numbers

8:52are approximately 850 people choosing the Elliott.

8:57That doesn't include the other long-term care beds in Guelph.

9:01Certainly there's a long waiting list of individuals

9:04that require long-term care in our community.

9:07Thanks.

9:11Thank you.

9:12I have one more question too.

9:13Given the rise in COVID,

9:15how is that playing out at the Elliott right now?

9:22At the moment where we don't have any COVID cases,

9:26we're not really seeing it as an operational

9:28or a risk challenge for our residents.

9:31And we're managing with our IPAC standards in place

9:34as per the guidelines.

9:37Excellent, thank you.

9:39Good, I have some, I do have a question.

9:41Okay, Councillor Boussa too.

9:44Thank you.

9:45I'm going to go through the report and for being here.

9:46I didn't want to ask the question

9:48because this is an operational report.

9:50But you talk about the waiting list of 800

9:54and that is daunting.

9:55And so my question is when or do we see

9:58some kind of a strategic plan, capital vision thing of,

10:05and does it come to us or is that not our role?

10:08If you can just kind of give me a sense of,

10:12this is what we're dreaming of,

10:13this is where we're going kind of thing

10:15in terms of additional beds.

10:16And I know I've raised this with DCAO, Klack Busch of,

10:20who does the planning for long-term care?

10:22Who is the holder of that information

10:25and finger on the pulse and who responds?

10:30And hearing that it's a private sector,

10:35kind of makes me worried about that.

10:37But just if you can respond to what kind of a role

10:40the Elliott has in terms of capital expansion

10:42and responding to that very real and growing need.

10:48Through you to Councillor Bustilli.

10:51So it's a complex answer.

10:53And I think I'll start off by saying

10:56the Ministry of Long-Term Care

10:58certainly is the holder of those approvals.

11:00That's the first piece.

11:04I think the second piece is we know there's a great need

11:07not only in our community but across the province.

11:10The latest stats show that long-term care

11:14requirements are going to only increase by anywhere

11:18from 10 to 25% over the next five plus years.

11:22That was the latest report that came out from Kaihai,

11:25which is the center that sort of gathers a lot of the data

11:29of who needs that kind of or requires that care.

11:35As far as the long-term care visioning,

11:37I think it's going to be something that we're looking at.

11:40We've been looking at.

11:42And I know there's sort of what we

11:45or other partners in the health system.

11:47We do know there'll be additional beds

11:49going into St. Joe's.

11:50They've been approved,

11:52but it could be a few years before we see those new beds.

11:55So it's really looking at it from a community perspective

11:57of what we can all do to play a role.

12:00And then of course, any planning we do

12:01would be in consultation and working with the city staff

12:05to see is there a need for the Elliott

12:10or should others actually step into that role as well?

12:13So I think it's a collaborative effort

12:15through our OHT partners,

12:17as well as sort of looking at what our community needs are

12:19and what is the provincial needs as well.

12:22Thank you, just a supplement if I can.

12:24So is it a coordinated planning approach to this?

12:31Yes, there would be a coordinated piece,

12:34but I know we're looking at it from an OHT.

12:36So Guelph Wellington Ontario Health Team

12:38is looking at it as well.

12:40So I work quite closely with our long-term care partners

12:44as well as our hospital partners

12:45and other health service and social service

12:48to see what we can do.

12:49And we have a number of projects that we're looking at

12:54of how we could bridge the gap for those

12:57that require long-term care services in our community,

13:00especially with the closure of other beds

13:03within the system as well.

13:04So it is a collaborative approach.

13:07And we are one piece of that collaboration.

13:11Thank you very much.

13:14Thank you.

13:15Are there any other questions from the committee members?

13:19Okay, thank you.

13:20Is somebody be willing to put the recommendation

13:23to receive on the floor?

13:26Councillor Caitlin, seconded by Councillor O'Rourke.

13:30Any more questions or comments?

13:34Thank you.

13:35Is there anyone opposed?

13:37Seeing none.

13:39Thank you.

13:40Are there any announcements from either our staff

13:43or staff of the event?

13:44We did want to invite the members of the city

13:49and city council to the Great Harvest,

13:51which is our celebration in the fall.

13:54It's October the 6th, 1130 to 1430 or 230.

14:00It's a Sunday.

14:01So councillors, we would welcome you to come and attend.

14:05Okay, what's happening at the Great Harvest?

14:07Well, it is an event where we celebrate the fall

14:12and we celebrate our residents.

14:14I'm not sure.

14:16It's a fundraising event really.

14:18Is it?

14:18And we invite the community in to support

14:21and celebrate with us.

14:23Great, thank you.

14:24Thank you for the invitation.

14:25So that's October the 6th.

14:27What was the time again?

14:291130 to 230 and tickets are on our website.

14:32Okay, thank you.

14:37I'll have a motion to adjourn.

14:40Councillor Klassen, seconded by Councillor Bousetail.

14:46I'm assuming there's nobody in opposition.

14:48Okay, thank you.

14:50The meeting is adjourned.