Committee of the Whole · June 02, 2026 · Item 15.2
Guelph City Council approve the Outside Water Use By-law (2026) – 21216 provided as Attachment-1 of this report. That Guelph City Council repeal the existing Outside…
Main motion under the agenda item Outside Water Use By-law Update - 2026-259
Carried (12 to 0)
12 in favour, 0 against — unanimous
What was voted on
The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.
That Guelph City Council approve the Outside Water Use By-law (2026) – 21216 provided as Attachment-1 of this report. That Guelph City Council repeal the existing Outside Water Use By-law (2014) – 19714 to be replaced with the Outside Water Use By-law (2026) – 21216 provided as Attachment-1 of this report.
Moved by Councillor Allt, seconded by Councillor Busuttil.
How the room voted
In favour (12)
- Allt
- Billings
- Busuttil
- Caron
- Caton
- Downer
- Gibson
- Goller
- Guthrie
- Hauser
- Klassen
- Richardson
Who spoke to it
Heather Yates, Manager, Compliance, Programs and Performance, presented on the Outside Water Use By-law Update.
What council was given
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- Outside Water Use By-law Update - 2026-259.pdf
Water Services is asking Council to adopt a new Outside Water Use By-law for 2026 and repeal the 2014 version. The by-law sets rules and restriction levels for lawn and garden watering, tree watering and pool filling, which drive up summer water demand. Staff note that since the first such by-law in 2003, the highest single day of water use has stayed under 65,000 cubic metres even as Guelph has grown, and the rules align with the Grand River low-water response program.
- Attachment-1 Outside Water Use By-law (2026) - 21216.pdf
- Attachment-2 Outside Water Use By-law Update Presentation.pdf
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What was said
8,369 words from the meeting recording, transcribed automatically. Times are from the start of the recording.
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5:34:42So before we get started, I would like to just take a moment
5:34:46to reflect on our role as responsible stewards
5:34:49of our community's water resources
5:34:51and thank staff for bringing this bylaw update forward to us.
5:34:56Before we get started on everything else,
5:35:00we've got a presentation from Heather Yates.
5:35:02So Heather, welcome to the podium.
5:35:05Thank you and good evening Chair class
5:35:12and members of City Council.
5:35:13My name is Heather Yates.
5:35:14I'm the manager of compliance, programs and performance
5:35:17in environmental services.
5:35:19It's my pleasure to present the details of the update
5:35:22to the outside water use bylaw.
5:35:24City of Guelph has long been an early adopter
5:35:32and lead in municipal water demand.
5:35:34As a groundwater based community, with finite supply,
5:35:37Guelph's success in managing seasonal water demand
5:35:40has assisted in securing water servicing capacity
5:35:43and ensuring compliance with our permitted water takings.
5:35:46With support from GEI Consultants Canada,
5:35:49staff initiated a review of the 2014 outside water use bylaw.
5:35:54This was to ensure alignment with updated regulation,
5:35:57policies and environmental protection since 2014.
5:36:00Most notably an update on our local water use bylaw
5:36:03and update on our local water bylaws
5:36:05for sewer use bylaw and water bylaw,
5:36:08as well as our source water protection
5:36:10and water quantity policies.
5:36:12We also needed to assess fee structure
5:36:14and enforcement practices to verify present day needs.
5:36:19We wanted to consider feedback of community members,
5:36:22including some of the feedback received
5:36:24on ease of use of the current structure
5:36:27and evaluate some of the comparator practices
5:36:29that exist since 2014,
5:36:31as well as our water changes in water using patterns
5:36:35since that time.
5:36:41You're likely familiar with the image you see before you.
5:36:44These are our current program levels
5:36:45associated with the outside water use bylaw.
5:36:48For context of the update,
5:36:50I'd like to describe the current bylaws program
5:36:52and how staff use data to support changes in the levels.
5:36:57Staff monitor and analyze several conditions
5:37:00that determine whether more cautious water use
5:37:02is required or appropriate.
5:37:04These conditions include temperature
5:37:06and quantity of rain,
5:37:08surface water body levels provided
5:37:09by the Grand River Conservation Authority,
5:37:13and overall tracking of water production.
5:37:15Water production is that of the amount
5:37:18of water water services pumps,
5:37:20treats and distributes in total
5:37:21to the drinking water system per day.
5:37:24Based on these factors,
5:37:25staff produce a weekly condition report
5:37:28indicating what level of outside water use is appropriate,
5:37:32protecting the supply within the parameters
5:37:35of our permits to take water.
5:37:38When a combination of factors are met or exceeded,
5:37:41staff make the data-driven decision
5:37:43to elevate or de-escalate a level.
5:37:46The levels have predetermined outside water
5:37:47using activities that are permitted or constrained
5:37:50based on the severity of local water conditions.
5:37:53Staff use our various communication channels,
5:37:56including the city's webpage, social,
5:37:58and the city's infamous roadside signs
5:38:00to inform residents and businesses
5:38:02of any changes to the level.
5:38:08As mentioned, data-driven decision-making
5:38:10is fundamental to the outside water use by-law
5:38:12and subsequent program.
5:38:14What you see before you contains a lot of information.
5:38:17For ease and for your focus,
5:38:18I'd like to describe the elements that this graph depicts.
5:38:22The graph is a retrospective of 2025.
5:38:25This is the most recent year that the city elevated
5:38:27and de-escalated outside water use levels.
5:38:30The levels are depicted by the blue,
5:38:32yellow, and red background shading over periods of time.
5:38:37Daily precipitation is plotted
5:38:38at the bottom of the graph, solid and blue,
5:38:40emphasizing peaks and valleys of rain
5:38:43received during those periods.
5:38:45At the top of the graph, solid and black,
5:38:47you'll see total production of water treated
5:38:50and pumped to the system,
5:38:51which emphasizes the peaks and valleys
5:38:53of total system demand.
5:38:56In total, what this graph displays
5:38:57is a call and response in cutting peak demand
5:38:59by the community when a level change occurs.
5:39:02Based on public program recognition,
5:39:04residents and businesses adjust their use patterns,
5:39:07and this is reflected in demand response.
5:39:12We see community action to level change,
5:39:14paired with increased precipitation experience
5:39:16during that time,
5:39:18and resulting reduction in overall demand.
5:39:21But more so, peak demand is tempered throughout the season.
5:39:29Through the review, several strengths
5:39:31of the present by-law were noted.
5:39:34Flexibility with using levels provided many opportunities
5:39:37to engage the community in conversation
5:39:40around outdoor water using levels
5:39:41and reinforcing messaging.
5:39:43Prompt response from the community
5:39:45using our suite of communication tools
5:39:47and achieving the necessary reductions and demands.
5:39:50Employing an education first approach,
5:39:52keeping by-law and residents aware of drivers
5:39:54for necessity of compliance,
5:39:57and permitting individuals to water to maintain plant health
5:40:00and establish new seed and sod,
5:40:03minimizing the impact to customers
5:40:05and businesses who also offer these services.
5:40:12We also experienced some great feedback
5:40:14on the challenges and the opportunities
5:40:16that exist to improve the by-law.
5:40:18There's some confusion on differences
5:40:20between level zero blue and level one yellow.
5:40:24These replicate each other,
5:40:26and there was confusion on how they were executed.
5:40:30There was no standard season for residents
5:40:32to determine when the by-law is actually active.
5:40:35Our data is limited to gross water demand
5:40:38that's the treated and distributed production data.
5:40:42Real-time data from each customer sector is delayed
5:40:44as it's obtained through our water billing meters
5:40:46and then thusly processed through billing and Zinc collections.
5:40:50There's also been limited enforcement to date.
5:40:53Program and administration investments
5:40:55and potential abuse of permitting processes
5:40:58suggested collecting supporting documentation
5:41:00for rationale of permits to address repeat asks
5:41:03in season or every year.
5:41:09The culmination of our review has resulted
5:41:11in a simplified by-law and the program structure
5:41:14which is summarized in the next couple of slides.
5:41:17Instead of three, pardon me, instead of three levels,
5:41:21which with corresponding actions,
5:41:23the updated by-law reflects only two levels,
5:41:26standard and elevated restrictions
5:41:29to assist in clarity of message.
5:41:31We have maintained the status quo
5:41:33of municipal address days linked
5:41:35to odd and even days of the calendar
5:41:38that some activities may be permitted or restricted to
5:41:41for the use of outside water.
5:41:44To provide flexibility for all sorts of different lifestyles,
5:41:47we've proposed part of modified watering windows
5:41:51moving from seven to nine a.m. and seven to nine p.m.
5:41:54to instead a total of four hours per day
5:41:57between the hours of midnight at nine a.m.
5:41:59and five p.m. to 11.59 p.m.
5:42:03This does not impact the amount or duration
5:42:06of watering permitted per day.
5:42:08In the present by-law, it's just more accommodating.
5:42:11Further, water-using activity restrictions
5:42:13fluctuate between standard and elevated levels.
5:42:17In standard level, that promotes a cautious use of water,
5:42:21customers are permitted to water their lawns
5:42:23during municipal address days
5:42:25within the defined hours mentioned,
5:42:27while other outdoor water-using activities
5:42:29have no restrictions applied.
5:42:32In an elevated level requiring reduction in use,
5:42:35lawn watering is no longer permitted,
5:42:38and this is consistent with the present level two, red.
5:42:42Nor are public education or demonstrations
5:42:45that use water outdoors.
5:42:47Watering of ornamental gardens during municipal address days
5:42:50within the specified hours are permitted.
5:42:53In both cases between elevated or standard,
5:42:57food growing and tree care are not restricted.
5:43:00Neither are sprinklers for recreation,
5:43:02as these are often used for cooling purposes.
5:43:09The conditions for level change
5:43:11have been maintained and added to.
5:43:14The by-law has maintained tracking
5:43:15against climatic normals,
5:43:17and also maintained monitoring and tracking
5:43:19of surface water, the Aramosa River flows,
5:43:22which is stipulated by the city's permit to take water.
5:43:25This is also a primary driver
5:43:27for the Grand River's Low Water Response Program.
5:43:30The condition of tracking overall water demand
5:43:34against available supply is new to our by-law,
5:43:37but as mentioned had previously been
5:43:39an internal condition tracked and considered
5:43:40for several years.
5:43:43In all circumstances, level change to elevated status
5:43:46may occur as required to manage the water supply,
5:43:49and meeting demand reductions where required
5:43:51as part of the community emergency response contingency.
5:43:59Administrative changes have been included
5:44:01to address feedback and consider costs going forward.
5:44:05For example, the formal timing
5:44:06of the outside water use by-law
5:44:08has defined dates now, as proposed,
5:44:11April 1st to October 31st.
5:44:14Further, we've visited the costs of permits.
5:44:16They have nominally been increased
5:44:18from $10 per watering permit to $15 per permit.
5:44:22This amount has not been adjusted since 2014.
5:44:26The proposed also has the ability to request proof of purchase
5:44:29to accompany applications for watering permits
5:44:32to deter frequent applications for the same location.
5:44:35This is consistent with other municipalities.
5:44:43Throughout the process, staff engaged in pop-up events,
5:44:46leaned on Have Your Say,
5:44:47and previous research completed to support by-law updates.
5:44:52The final draft by-law was posted for comment
5:44:54and consideration on Have Your Say.
5:44:57Further, staff brought the proposed
5:44:58to two advisory committees of council
5:45:00and obtained endorsement from Planning, Environment,
5:45:03and Water Advisory Committee,
5:45:05and the Economic Development and Tourism Advisory Committee.
5:45:08With approval, staff's next steps are
5:45:11finalizing a public outreach and education plan
5:45:13with strategic communication and community engagement.
5:45:17This is going to include revised
5:45:18outside water use community signage,
5:45:21considering the recommendations of extending signage
5:45:23to growth nodes in the city.
5:45:26Continue with the education-first approach in 2026
5:45:29for advising community of change
5:45:31and leveraging many touchpoints
5:45:33across the community for information sharing.
5:45:36We'll also be completing our ongoing program,
5:45:39Impact Monitoring, measuring the changes
5:45:42the impact of the by-law have,
5:45:44ease of understanding within our community,
5:45:46and an absence of real-time consumption data,
5:45:49evaluate ongoing impact and overall water demand
5:45:52through peak season.
5:45:58Finally, what you have before you are the two resolutions
5:46:01staff have put forward for council's approval
5:46:03later this month to enact the by-law.
5:46:14With that, I thank you for your time and consideration,
5:46:16and through Chair Kloss,
5:46:17and I'm prepared to answer any questions that you may have.
5:46:20Thank you very much, Heather, for the presentation.
5:46:24I have seen some hands start to go up.
5:46:26So I had Councillor Allt put his hand out.
5:46:28I'm gonna look at the screen because I often look in person.
5:46:33Okay, Councillor Roussdale, Councillor Goller.
5:46:37Starting with you, Councillor Allt.
5:46:40Thank you very much, Chair Kloss.
5:46:42Before we go any further,
5:46:43would you like me to put the motion on the floor?
5:46:45Yes, please, thank you.
5:46:47Councillor Allt, and seconded by Councillor Buicitel.
5:46:50Thank you, the recommendations are on the floor.
5:46:51And thank you very much for the presentation.
5:46:54I appreciate everything you've said,
5:46:56and I'm concerned about next steps.
5:47:00We have a rain barrel program,
5:47:03but the rain barrel program at this point
5:47:05is essentially finished for the year.
5:47:08Should we reconsider by motion now extending that program,
5:47:13given that we have a fairly good idea
5:47:14that this is gonna be a long, dry summer?
5:47:19Through you, Chair Klosson.
5:47:21Our rain barrel program is funded
5:47:23through our stormwater utility for the purpose.
5:47:26We've been running a rain barrel program for several years
5:47:28and in partnership with them
5:47:29from water and wastewater as well.
5:47:33Rain barrels have been actively used within the city,
5:47:36and at this time I think that there is,
5:47:41we have a great program in place as it currently exists.
5:47:45Can I think to add to that, Mr. Gaiman?
5:47:49Yeah, through the Chair, if I may.
5:47:52Councillor Allt, I'm speaking off the top
5:47:53and I had to hear a little bit,
5:47:54but there's also a limited number of rain barrels available
5:47:57each year just within the sort of funding envelope
5:48:00of that stormwater funded program.
5:48:02And so I don't think that there's a concern
5:48:05from the program's team.
5:48:06I have not had that flag to mean in any way, shape, or form.
5:48:10Just a comment on that.
5:48:11I appreciate that perhaps it is a little too late,
5:48:14just as a takeaway, perhaps we should increase
5:48:17the number of rain barrels for next year and ongoing.
5:48:21If in fact we are facing a significant challenge,
5:48:24which I actually think we are.
5:48:27And I'm just looking at weather trends around the world
5:48:30and particularly coming from the west, where Vancouver,
5:48:33the great wet Vancouver has been experiencing
5:48:36a five month drought.
5:48:38So just something to take away.
5:48:40But that relates to something else as well.
5:48:42And I was wondering if I could get remarks
5:48:44on the gray water, rain water systems
5:48:47that I know that some engineers in Guelph
5:48:49are trying to promote and that is at this point
5:48:51operative in 10C for example.
5:48:55Can we have some comments on that
5:48:57and the efficacy of that for the future?
5:49:00And through planning actually as well.
5:49:03Absolutely, through you chair.
5:49:05We have, the City of Guelph has actively partnered
5:49:07with a number of our water conservation efficiency
5:49:10and optimization programs with members of the community,
5:49:13including 10C's project.
5:49:16There is a great opportunity that exists.
5:49:20It also benefits our storm water friends and colleagues
5:49:23as well.
5:49:24So we have, yes, we continue to offer rebates
5:49:27both for gray water reuse and rain water harvesting
5:49:31through the other water efficiency and conservation
5:49:33programs outside of this bylaw.
5:49:35And thank you.
5:49:36I might have to ask somebody else,
5:49:38perhaps Mr. Gaiman or Ms. Walke as well,
5:49:41because I think there's a planning aspect of this as well.
5:49:44And I know that there have been challenges,
5:49:46but in talking to one engineer, he
5:49:48said that the economy of scale relates to developments that
5:49:55are larger than just one house.
5:49:57Do we have any contingency for promoting gray water
5:50:02or rain water systems as a component of planning?
5:50:08Through the chair to council, also certainly
5:50:10do have things like low impact development standards.
5:50:13We do things through the building code
5:50:14where we can encourage gray water use.
5:50:17But I would just say with respect
5:50:18to sort of the scope of the OW UP that's in front of you here,
5:50:24we're really not focused on that particular aspect
5:50:26as this bylaw update is in front of council.
5:50:29And I appreciate that.
5:50:31But I'm trying to sneak in something
5:50:32that is much longer term and is incredibly
5:50:37significant to what we're talking about here.
5:50:39So I might be sneaky, but there's method in my madness.
5:50:45Thank you, Councillor Allt.
5:50:46Maybe that's something that you can continue offline
5:50:48with staff.
5:50:50Sneakily, of course.
5:50:51Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky, sneaky.
5:50:54Next on my speaker's list is Councillor Busebchelt, please.
5:50:58Thank you very much.
5:50:59And thank you for the report and the presentation.
5:51:01I'm award four.
5:51:03So language is a huge barrier for many of the families
5:51:07in my area.
5:51:08And so my question is in your report on page nine,
5:51:12sorry, page five at the bottom, thank you for moving
5:51:14to a two system from the three because it was,
5:51:18even for myself, confusing.
5:51:21But I have a question.
5:51:21When I look back to your presentation
5:51:24and the image of bylaw review strengths,
5:51:27and you've got the image of outside water use and number one,
5:51:31I'm trying to visualize because in your report,
5:51:35I'm hoping you're not going to say on the sign
5:51:37a standard restricted program that what I'm looking
5:51:41for is reassurance about plain language,
5:51:44which is a readability of about a grade seven level,
5:51:47recognizing that in my community,
5:51:49when often things go home, it's the kids that will engage
5:51:53with the parents to read that.
5:51:55So infographics, readability, plain language.
5:51:58Can you talk a little bit more about your plan there?
5:52:00Because when I read the report, I thought,
5:52:02you know, a standard restricted program
5:52:05and elevated restricted program,
5:52:07that's a lot to comprehend.
5:52:11Through you, chair, I appreciate the question,
5:52:13Councillor Busuttil, absolutely.
5:52:16We will be maintaining language
5:52:18that is consistent with the bylaw.
5:52:19We'll also offer things such as flagging of use.
5:52:22So for level one, which will be a water drop still,
5:52:27it will say standard.
5:52:29It will also offer a prompt of cautious use
5:52:32and a water drop too, that will say elevated.
5:52:36And it will talk to reduce use.
5:52:38We will be using other infographics
5:52:40and other mechanisms in which to encourage
5:52:42and change behavior and influence.
5:52:45And I may be so bold as to say we've had a lot of success
5:52:48also introducing a number of the concepts
5:52:51for our watering program,
5:52:53and specifically for outside water use bylaw
5:52:55through New Canadian Outreach Initiatives.
5:52:59So these are all factors that will factor
5:53:02into the communications plan that we're currently building.
5:53:05Thank you.
5:53:06Thank you, just a follow-up, if I may.
5:53:07So then in that image, that's in your slide presentation
5:53:11with the number one and the drop.
5:53:14Would the infographics at the bottom,
5:53:17the person watering and so on,
5:53:20would that be consistent with image number two
5:53:22with an X perhaps on some of the images
5:53:25to make infographics clear?
5:53:29Through you, chair.
5:53:30This is information that we will,
5:53:32this is, I appreciate your comment,
5:53:34and it is, we will take that away
5:53:35and speak with our strategic communications team on that
5:53:39for how we're communicating that.
5:53:41Right now we do have infographics
5:53:43that are associated with our outside water use bylaw signs.
5:53:46Thank you for that feedback.
5:53:48Again, another supplemental, if I man.
5:53:50Just recently in the neighborhood,
5:53:52just to illustrate the difficulty with language,
5:53:56no parking, no stopping.
5:54:00I have a video of someone driving down the multi-use path
5:54:04because it's a service road.
5:54:05So we start in making our bylaws and our communication
5:54:10with the assumption that we're all in the same place
5:54:12and we all understand language,
5:54:14but that's not the case.
5:54:16I did have one question about the elevated
5:54:18in the presentation, again, in the community.
5:54:22When it says for elevated, using water for public education
5:54:26or demonstrations not permitted.
5:54:28So when the Guelph Fire Department comes out
5:54:31for hot summer nights to Margaret Green Park and says,
5:54:34well, we're not sure if we can do this or not.
5:54:37Can you provide some clarity there?
5:54:39Through you, Chair.
5:54:40Absolutely.
5:54:42The city also practices and aligns
5:54:44with the intention of the bylaw as well.
5:54:47In the past, we have had the experience
5:54:49that hot summer nights are unfortunately impacted
5:54:52because of the use of water and are foregone
5:54:56for those events because of the impact of reducing use
5:54:59in those periods of time where peak demand is much higher.
5:55:03So that is a good example of something
5:55:05that would be impacted during an elevated level.
5:55:09So just so I'm clear, sprinklers are all right,
5:55:11but the fire department engaging kids
5:55:14and the fire truck and stuff not okay,
5:55:16it would be canceled, is that correct?
5:55:18The activity of itself is the cooling mechanism
5:55:24using yard sprinklers and the educational benefit.
5:55:29We've had a lot of success in partnering
5:55:31with our fire services and offering alternative mechanisms
5:55:34in which to engage with youth and community members
5:55:38instead of having fire truck use the water at that time.
5:55:43Okay, I will follow up.
5:55:44Thank you very much.
5:55:48Thank you for your questions, Councillor Busetel.
5:55:50Councillor Goller, please.
5:55:53Thank you, and through you, Chair Klassen.
5:55:55Thank you so much for the report and the updated bylaw.
5:55:58I think it is much clearer now.
5:56:00I do note that on the website for the current restrictions,
5:56:05it says that the fines are between 150 and 550.
5:56:09But when I look at the new bylaw on page 13015,
5:56:13it tells me that the fines are no more than 10,000
5:56:16and second offense no more than 25,000 for individuals
5:56:20or 50 and 100,000 for corporations.
5:56:23Could you tell me what the actual fine would be
5:56:25for a household that is on watering not on the right day?
5:56:28Absolutely.
5:56:29Through you, Chair Klassen, thank you, Councillor Goller.
5:56:32Presently, the bylaw is structured to only be able
5:56:36to use enforcement of a part three court summons
5:56:40for any infraction.
5:56:42So that also speaks to the challenges
5:56:44that we've had in enforcement.
5:56:46And so education has been repeated by bylaw.
5:56:49What we are proposing right now is that while the new bylaw
5:56:52continues that court summons as is required
5:56:54through the municipal act, we are working right now
5:56:56with legal in order to add to the enforcement ability
5:57:03for our bylaw team to look at part one for ticketing.
5:57:07Ticketing would be structured based on other municipal
5:57:11comparators in this field as well.
5:57:13And we're just collecting that information at this time.
5:57:15It's worth noting that in 2026,
5:57:17we are not anticipating a ticketable offense
5:57:21at this point in time.
5:57:22And it's going to be education first for our community
5:57:24to ensure that they're aware of the changes
5:57:26that are occurring within the bylaw.
5:57:28Okay, I appreciate that.
5:57:30So the provision there for a $10,000 fine
5:57:35would only be used in like a very egregious.
5:57:37Absolutely.
5:57:38Terrible, okay.
5:57:39Pardon me.
5:57:40Okay, thank you very much.
5:57:40Thank you.
5:57:41Thank you, Chair.
5:57:42Thank you, Councillor Goller.
5:57:43That's all for my list of questions from Councillors.
5:57:48Is there an, oh, Councillor Bustill,
5:57:49we're coming back to you.
5:57:51Sorry, I've been mulling this over.
5:57:53The whole, I'm going to go back to the hot summer nights,
5:57:56Westwood Road, it took a number of years for us
5:57:58to get the truck to even come out to Margaret Green Park.
5:58:01And so this is an equity question
5:58:03and I'll send you an email as well.
5:58:07The permit here, and I understand the volume and so on,
5:58:10but to have the privilege of having a sprinkler
5:58:12and a front lawn is not equitable across the city.
5:58:15And so for the kids that live in all those high rises
5:58:18on Westwood Road, and yes, finally,
5:58:20thank you to the mayor, you know,
5:58:21it took 18 years to get a splash pad
5:58:23and a crossing path and so on.
5:58:28Oh, staff, staff, staff and the mayor.
5:58:31Really appreciate that.
5:58:32However, I'm just asking about equitable here.
5:58:36When I look at this, I have a front lawn.
5:58:38I can have a sprinkler.
5:58:39Great.
5:58:41You know, I'm very concerned about that.
5:58:43So I'm going to send a follow up
5:58:45if you can take that away,
5:58:46that equity lens of opportunities there
5:58:50because the kids were devastated
5:58:53when that event was canceled.
5:58:55It's a huge community event.
5:58:58That only happens once a year if they're lucky.
5:58:59So just if you can keep that in mind,
5:59:01it's more than just getting wet.
5:59:03It's that whole public education and everything else.
5:59:06Thank you.
5:59:07Sorry, through Chair Kloss.
5:59:08And if I can just jump in speaking
5:59:09from the fire service point of view on that.
5:59:12So I'll look into it,
5:59:14to my recollection, we've never canceled the event.
5:59:16We always do our hot summer nights
5:59:18as a public education program.
5:59:20The focus of hot summer nights though
5:59:21is about fire prevention and public education.
5:59:24The water component is if we can do it, we do it,
5:59:28but we can't always.
5:59:29And certainly the water use restrictions fire trucks
5:59:31put out a huge volume of water
5:59:33compared to what a residential sprinkler would be.
5:59:36But we've made really concerted effort in recent years
5:59:39to make sure that we are hitting
5:59:40every one of the wards with that program.
5:59:42But the focus of that hot summer nights program
5:59:44is fire prevention and education.
5:59:47The use of water is sort of a bonus activity.
5:59:51And the other thing that we do always make sure
5:59:53that we're clear on publicly is that if we ever do,
5:59:55sometimes we just have to pull the fire trucks
5:59:57because they are active service vehicles.
5:59:59So that's the only other reason
6:00:01that we sometimes have had to stop that activity
6:00:04is because they are in service vehicles.
6:00:12Councillor Boussatel, does that satisfy your question?
6:00:14Yeah, I'll follow up offline as well
6:00:16with the correspondence
6:00:18and how we were able to get it to Margaret Green Park.
6:00:20That was not on the list.
6:00:23Thank you.
6:00:24Just looking, are there any comments
6:00:26from my council colleagues?
6:00:29Looking around and I'm seeing none.
6:00:32So again, it's me.
6:00:35I don't have questions.
6:00:37I just want to go back to the first page
6:00:39of the staff report and read something,
6:00:42which is the outside water use bylaw
6:00:44has demonstrated its effectiveness
6:00:46in balancing outdoor water needs
6:00:48and reducing demand when restriction levels change.
6:00:51Since 2003, peak demand, the highest day of water use
6:00:55per year has not exceeded 65,000 cubic meters in a day,
6:01:00cubic meters in a day,
6:01:01while population has continued to grow.
6:01:03And I quickly looked up the population growth,
6:01:05which has gone from about 110,000 to 143,000.
6:01:09So I think that the work that you're doing is working.
6:01:13The public education is working
6:01:15and we're seeing that reflected in the numbers.
6:01:17And so I really appreciate the updates
6:01:19that continue to tweak and to improve our water usage,
6:01:26our outdoor water usage and make the program better.
6:01:28So thank you to staff for your report.
6:01:32And I think Guelph is a very water conscious community.
6:01:36And I think that this report reflects that.
6:01:39So thank you.
6:01:40And with that, I'm going to call the vote.
6:01:42Is anybody against the recommendations?
6:01:47I'm seeing none.
6:01:48So that passes unanimously.
6:01:51Thank you to everyone.
6:01:53Excuse me, Chair Klassen,
6:01:55I just want to confirm because Councillor Gibson
6:01:57doesn't have his video on if he is intending to vote.
6:02:01I'm here, thank you.
6:02:02I am in favor and my comments are,
6:02:04it's rare that we see a bylaw with so much public buy-in,
6:02:07but it is a refreshing note for our community.
6:02:09We are collectively focused on water conservation
6:02:12and I appreciate this bylaw very much, I'm in support.
6:02:16Thank you, Councillor Gibson.
6:02:19All right, we're going to move on to the next item
6:02:22on the IDE agenda.
6:02:24Thank you to staff.
6:02:25We'll just talk while everyone moves over.
6:02:29We have the advancing energy equity in Guelph report.
6:02:34We have staff Brian Hohen, Tio Joseph,
6:02:39and then members of Guelph Lab, Laura Tozer, Sam Laban,
6:02:44Daria Taran who will be presenting to us this evening.
6:02:49Before we get started, I just want to thank everyone
6:02:51who has contributed to this work,
6:02:53the Guelph Energy Equity Coalition,
6:02:56the Guelph Energy Equity Community Working Group
6:02:59and the full project team from Guelph Labs
6:03:02and all the staff who are involved
6:03:04with the Guelph Labs work.
6:03:06I had a meeting a few months ago to learn a little bit more
6:03:09about Guelph Labs and the work that you were doing
6:03:11and this was still in progress.
6:03:13So I'm really looking forward to the presentation
6:03:15this evening and the discussion that will follow.
6:03:17So I'll hand things over to you, Brian.
6:03:27Okay, good afternoon.
6:03:30My name is Brian Hohen and I manage the city
6:03:32of Guelph's energy and climate change team.
6:03:36I'm happy to share the floor with my colleague, Tio Joseph.
6:03:40Dr. Laura Tozer from the University of Toronto,
6:03:43Dr. Daria Tarhan from the University of Guelph
6:03:46and Sam Laban from the Guelph Lab.
6:03:50They will be presenting further
6:03:51on the advancing energy equity and Guelph initiative.
6:03:57Last year, we presented the community call
6:04:00to climate action, which is the guiding document
6:04:03for collective action to reduce community emissions in Guelph
6:04:07from buildings, households, workplaces,
6:04:11waste and transportation and to work together
6:04:15to move towards our community race zero targets.
6:04:20That said, equity must always be considered
6:04:24as we work towards our energy and climate goals.
6:04:29As we developed the Guelph Greener Homes Program,
6:04:32this thinking was employed.
6:04:34In parallel to the zero interest loan stream,
6:04:37we were one of the first municipalities
6:04:39to develop a dedicated low income household grant program
6:04:43that covers the cost of heat pumps for those that qualify.
6:04:48This way, more community members could overcome
6:04:52financial barriers and take action to reduce emissions.
6:04:58Guelph is also part of the global covenant of mayors
6:05:01for climate and energy.
6:05:03As part of the membership, cities are to report
6:05:06on reducing local emissions and adapting
6:05:09to climate change.
6:05:11In 2023, the global covenant of mayors added
6:05:15the energy access and poverty pillar to the framework.
6:05:19This addition helped frame the investigation
6:05:22into energy inequity and led to this engagement
6:05:25with Guelph lab and the research team.
6:05:28And with that, I'll pass it over to Dr. Tozer.
6:05:34Oh, sorry.
6:05:35Dr. Tarran.
6:05:40Hello members of council.
6:05:42Thank you so much, Brian.
6:05:44Dear members of council,
6:05:46we're in the midst of a transition as a society
6:05:50in terms of our climate, our energy systems,
6:05:53and how we relate to them as communities and policymakers.
6:05:58And some groups are impacted more disproportionately
6:06:01than others by climate change and our energy systems.
6:06:04And here's where the need for justice comes in.
6:06:07So the city of Guelph is the, for the slides.
6:06:13Sorry, first time.
6:06:22And the city of Guelph is already working
6:06:25on advancing just energy transitions.
6:06:28And this action plan on advancing energy equity specifically
6:06:32is part of these broader efforts.
6:06:35Guelph, in fact, is amongst the early adopters
6:06:38of addressing energy inequity.
6:06:40Another example of such a city is the city of Calgary,
6:06:43who enacted a energy equity action plan as well.
6:06:47At its core, energy equity isn't only about the cost of energy
6:06:52or everyone being able to adequately heat
6:06:55and cool their homes, which it is.
6:06:59But it's also about health.
6:07:01For example, people with respiratory illnesses
6:07:03who are disproportionately impacted by heat waves.
6:07:07It's about dignity and belonging,
6:07:09things like being able to host others at their home
6:07:13and feeling safe and comfortable at home.
6:07:18Climate change, unfortunately,
6:07:19is increasing the challenge of meeting energy equity.
6:07:24Hotter summers and longer heat waves are already here.
6:07:28By 2050, the number of days over 30 degrees Celsius
6:07:32is expected to quadruple.
6:07:36This action plan addresses energy inequity
6:07:38in two key ways.
6:07:39First, it identifies which communities and households
6:07:43in Guelph are most affected.
6:07:45And second, it outlines practical steps
6:07:49the city and community partners can take to support them.
6:07:53And as you can see, as you could have seen,
6:07:55I think I passed a slide there,
6:08:00but the primary focus of it is those Guelph residents
6:08:04with high energy burden,
6:08:06which means they spend a lot on energy costs
6:08:08relative to income.
6:08:11So now I want to talk to you about the participatory process
6:08:14through which we collectively developed
6:08:16this energy equity action plan.
6:08:20So we developed this plan through
6:08:21community and community engaged scholarship approach,
6:08:26where key community members and actors
6:08:28help identify and frame the issues,
6:08:31as well as collectively develop solutions to these issues.
6:08:35And this approach aims at increasing responsiveness
6:08:38to community needs and visions and the success of uptake.
6:08:44So on our end, the project team comprised of city staff,
6:08:49researchers, including myself,
6:08:50from the University of Guelph,
6:08:52and Dr. Laura Tozer from University of Toronto,
6:08:56as well as support from the Guelph Lab.
6:09:01Meanwhile, while this is the project team,
6:09:03there was also, as mentioned,
6:09:04through the community engaged scholarship approach,
6:09:06there was very important roles for community members in Guelph,
6:09:10through two key groups of community engagement.
6:09:16The first of them is what we call
6:09:19the Guelph Energy Equity Coalition,
6:09:22which brought together representatives
6:09:25from 11 local organizations concerned by energy and equity.
6:09:29This included utilities, governments,
6:09:32and community organizations working in poverty alleviation,
6:09:35frontline community service delivery, and sustainability.
6:09:39This group met four times in total.
6:09:43The second key group is the Guelph Energy Equity
6:09:47Community Working Group.
6:09:49And this group was made up of nine Guelph residents
6:09:52with lived expertise relevant to energy equity.
6:09:59Importantly, the community working group,
6:10:02so the expertise of people who are day-to-day
6:10:05dealing with energy and equities
6:10:06and trying to advance energy equity,
6:10:09bookended the entire project.
6:10:10The first meeting was of the community group,
6:10:12so they were able to set the priorities and principles
6:10:16that is going to guide this research.
6:10:19And the last meeting of the final energy equity action plan
6:10:22was reviewed by these members.
6:10:25Glad to report that nine out of nine
6:10:27of the community working group members
6:10:29supported this action plan that's in front of you today.
6:10:33And we also did engaged in public engagement
6:10:37at four community spaces, including community voices,
6:10:41food uniting neighbors, a Hope House Market,
6:10:44and the North End Harvest Market.
6:10:47I will now pass it to my colleague, Dr. Laura Tozer,
6:10:50who will speak about how we come to understand energy
6:10:53and equity in general and in the specific context of it.
6:10:56Thank you.
6:11:11Okay, thank you, Council Members.
6:11:13So there's a few different ways that we can think
6:11:15about understanding energy equity.
6:11:18And this is an area of research for me.
6:11:19I research energy equity, retrofit programs
6:11:24for homes here in Canada and local climate action.
6:11:27Well, so we can think about energy equity here in Guelph
6:11:30in a few different ways.
6:11:31We can think about it through stories,
6:11:33through definitions, and through statistics.
6:11:35So I'm gonna go through the action plan itself
6:11:37in a minute, but first I want to share a little bit
6:11:41about what we learned together in this process
6:11:43about the picture of energy inequity
6:11:44as it exists here in Guelph now.
6:11:47So when we think about the energy stories that we have,
6:11:56here in Guelph, our working group residents
6:11:58with lived experience of energy inequity edited
6:12:01a series of research backed qualitative stories
6:12:03to make sure that they reflected life in Guelph.
6:12:06They felt strongly that these stories included in the plan
6:12:09help everyone to understand who needs these actions
6:12:13and what their challenges are.
6:12:15The stories show experiences of people with lived experience
6:12:18whether that's low parents, seniors, folks with disabilities,
6:12:21racialized people, newcomers, renters, folks
6:12:25who disproportionately experience
6:12:26energy and equity impacts.
6:12:30Energy inequity is often defined as not being able
6:12:32to afford or access the energy needed to support well-being
6:12:36or staying healthy at home.
6:12:38It exists here in Guelph, exists all across Canada.
6:12:40Research shows that.
6:12:42People carefully ration their energy use
6:12:45in ways that means that they're living
6:12:47in unsafe temperatures at home.
6:12:49So we know that people keep the heat low
6:12:53or stay in one room or can't stay at home when it's warm.
6:12:57And the impacts of this are not just about the cost
6:13:02but it's also a health impact and a social connection impact.
6:13:05Research shows that it can make cardiovascular diseases
6:13:08worse, for example, these coping mechanisms
6:13:10and not having adequate temperatures at home.
6:13:13And it drives isolation, not wanting to have friends
6:13:16and families to your home as you heard.
6:13:18So this is what we mean when we're saying energy
6:13:20and equity as part of this plan.
6:13:23We can also look at the statistics
6:13:24for energy and equity in Guelph.
6:13:26We calculated that 4,550 households struggled
6:13:31with high energy costs.
6:13:33So that works out to about one in 10 households
6:13:35across the city, but it's concentrated
6:13:37in particular neighborhoods.
6:13:38In some neighborhoods, four out of 10 households
6:13:42were experiencing energy and equity.
6:13:45Another thing I want to note is that we got the data
6:13:47to do this calculation from the census
6:13:49where people put in their energy costs.
6:13:52But many people have their energy costs included
6:13:55in their rent and their housing so they can't separate it out,
6:13:59which means they're not captured in this number
6:14:00of 4,550 households.
6:14:03So we calculated just over 12,000 renter households
6:14:08that are also unable to access and attain material needs
6:14:11related to housing, food, clothing, and education
6:14:14using some different sources of data.
6:14:16And these are also households who are vulnerable
6:14:18to energy poverty who aren't included in that first number.
6:14:21So let me talk a little bit now about the action plan itself,
6:14:24what we came to collectively through this process
6:14:27of working with all these folks.
6:14:29The overarching goal of the plan is to help households
6:14:34that are struggling because of energy and equity,
6:14:37including people with the lowest incomes
6:14:38and the highest energy burdens.
6:14:42This is, as you remember, that was related
6:14:43to the energy costs and the other impacts that they're facing.
6:14:46So there's four large areas, categories of actions
6:14:49that are in the plan.
6:14:51The first two relate to the underlying housing conditions.
6:14:54So this is about addressing things like leaky windows
6:14:57and doors, inadequate insulation,
6:14:59or an inefficient heating and cooling system
6:15:02because these are one of the main drivers
6:15:04of energy and equity experiences.
6:15:07We need home energy upgrades to advance energy equity
6:15:11and better serve most marginalized residents
6:15:14to address some of these drivers.
6:15:16And what we heard, what you'll see in some of these
6:15:18action areas is both more home upgrade programs,
6:15:22additional ones, serving more purposes,
6:15:24reaching more households.
6:15:25But you'll also see that we talked a lot about
6:15:27and we have actions in there about better support
6:15:32so that people can better access existing programs
6:15:35because there are a couple of offered as well.
6:15:37Because the uptake is low even for the existing programs,
6:15:40they're difficult to navigate.
6:15:42People don't know that they're eligible.
6:15:45So the first two program areas are about navigation
6:15:48and about expansion.
6:15:51The under strengthening navigation and outreach,
6:15:54the first major action was to develop
6:15:56what we're calling an energy coaching program.
6:15:59And this is a recommendation for the city of Guelph
6:16:02to convene and collaborate with community partners,
6:16:04other levels of government and utilities
6:16:06to develop the program that works directly
6:16:09with households in Guelph, helping them to navigate
6:16:12existing home energy retrofit programs
6:16:14offered by many different players.
6:16:16There's also a lot of opportunity to improve outreach,
6:16:18things like in more languages, targeted outreach efforts
6:16:24to particular neighborhoods and communities,
6:16:25that kind of thing.
6:16:27There are also actions about expanding
6:16:30home energy retrofit programs.
6:16:32So this is about offering more programs
6:16:34or reaching more households.
6:16:35And there are recommendations for both city led
6:16:39home energy retrofit programs, applying to funding
6:16:42to expand city of Guelph led home energy retrofit programs,
6:16:46as well as for programs that are led by utilities,
6:16:50city of Guelph can advocate for program designs
6:16:52that serve these households in Guelph
6:16:54that are experiencing energy and equity.
6:16:58The other two areas in the program
6:17:00are about addressing energy and equity for renters
6:17:03and monitoring and reporting.
6:17:05So for renters, as I mentioned,
6:17:07renters were a particular area of focus
6:17:10that came up during the creation of the action plan.
6:17:13Renters are disproportionately affected
6:17:16by energy and equity.
6:17:17We know this from research we've done,
6:17:20not here in Guelph, but much more broadly.
6:17:22And renters are poorly served
6:17:24by many of the existing energy equity programs.
6:17:27A lot of them are focused on homeowners
6:17:29living in their home.
6:17:31And so that's the reason that there's this particular
6:17:34emphasis in the action plan to highlight
6:17:37the opportunities to make sure that renters
6:17:39are benefiting from energy interventions as well.
6:17:42And so the two main actions here are to support
6:17:45the adoption of the rental renovation by-law
6:17:48that's currently under development
6:17:49to protect tenants from displacement
6:17:51and unintended consequences of building upgrades
6:17:54when they're taking place.
6:17:56And also for the city of Guelph to explore
6:17:59how to adopt a maximum temperature by-law
6:18:01to protect rental tenants from dangerous indoor heating,
6:18:05much the way they're protected in the winter
6:18:08from having to have heat provided in the winter as well.
6:18:11And the final action area is on expanding monitoring
6:18:14and reporting so that this can become
6:18:15an ongoing part of operations for the city of Guelph.
6:18:18Both external reporting to the community and beyond,
6:18:23but also increasing the internal decision-making
6:18:26mechanisms for staff and policymakers
6:18:29to help to understand local energy use
6:18:31and equity challenges.
6:18:32So for example, the energy costs
6:18:34faced by different neighborhoods.
6:18:36And with that, I'll hand it back over to Brian
6:18:38to take us into the next steps.
6:18:46Great, thank you.
6:18:47Oh, excited there.
6:18:55Okay, so having a seat at the table
6:18:57and taking part in the discussions
6:18:58with community organizations and Guelph residents,
6:19:01a lot was gained from the different perspectives.
6:19:05The Energy Equity Action Plan identified
6:19:07that the city of Guelph has a member of the community,
6:19:10has a key role to play in advancing items
6:19:13of the action plan.
6:19:15However, it shouldn't do things in isolation
6:19:18and should work with community organizations
6:19:20by leveraging the expertise and trust they have established.
6:19:26There is shared interest from all groups
6:19:28in addressing this issue.
6:19:30Moving from defining energy and equity in Guelph
6:19:33and identifying actions,
6:19:35we'll move to implementation planning and design
6:19:38where this knowledge is to be incorporated.
6:19:41And finally, and what was previously stated,
6:19:44as we move forward, progress on the actions
6:19:47should be tracked and reported.
6:19:50And so with that, I'm gonna close the presentation
6:19:53and open it up for questions.
6:19:56Thank you for the presentation.
6:19:59We have one delegate before we go to questions.
6:20:02We have Evan Ferrari of Emerge Guelph.
6:20:05I saw you come in, hi Evan.
6:20:08And Evan was also, I hope this isn't in your delegation,
6:20:12but Evan, you were also one of the members
6:20:15of the Guelph Energy Equity Coalition.
6:20:18So thank you for your participation in that group.
6:20:22And whenever you're ready, the floor is yours.
6:20:27Thank you, thank you, Madam Chair.
6:20:30I'm gonna go off script here for a second
6:20:32and just say that I've never been involved
6:20:35with a planning process that the city has gone through
6:20:40in the 35 or more than 40 years that I've been in the city
6:20:44that was done so unbelievably well as this.
6:20:46I'm honestly in awe of, I played a very small role in this
6:20:51and I considered that really privileged.
6:20:55I'm speaking today in strong support
6:20:57of the Guelph Energy Equity Action Plan.
6:21:00First, I would like to thank Laura Tozers, Sam Laban,
6:21:03Darian Turan, and Craig Johnson for their excellent work.
6:21:06They produced a plan that is thoughtful, practical,
6:21:08evidence-based, and rooted in the realities of our community.
6:21:12What makes this report especially valuable
6:21:15is the process through which it was developed.
6:21:18The authors brought together the Guelph Energy Equity Group,
6:21:22and I'm afraid I'm repeating some of what Laura said here,
6:21:25and those are the individuals with lived experience.
6:21:29And also the project team, obviously,
6:21:32the project team of staff
6:21:34and the Guelph Energy Equity Coalition
6:21:37frontline organizations of which we were proud to be members.
6:21:41Too often policies are developed about people
6:21:43rather than with people.
6:21:46The project took a different approach.
6:21:47Residents facing high costs, housing challenges,
6:21:50disability, poverty, and other barriers
6:21:53helped shape the solutions.
6:21:55The report reminds us that energy inequity
6:21:57is not an abstract concept.
6:22:00It is the senior deciding whether they can afford
6:22:02to heat their home.
6:22:04The person with a disability who depends on electricity
6:22:07to power essential medical equipment,
6:22:09the newcomer family struggling to balance housing costs,
6:22:12employment challenges, and energy bills,
6:22:15and the single parent trying to keep their children safe
6:22:18and comfortable in a poorly insulated apartment.
6:22:22Climate change is making these challenges worse.
6:22:24More frequent heat waves, extreme weather,
6:22:26and rising energy costs will place additional pressure
6:22:30on households that are already struggling.
6:22:35Those least responsible for climate change
6:22:38are the most vulnerable to its impact.
6:22:42This is why this action plan matters.
6:22:44Its recommendations are practical and achievable.
6:22:47The proposed energy coaching program
6:22:49would help residents navigate existing programs in supports.
6:22:53This has been a consistent hurdle in the past.
6:22:57When you're worrying about putting food on the table,
6:23:00how on earth do you make sense of your energy bills
6:23:03at the same time and whether you can pay them or not?
6:23:06Expanded retrofit programs would improve the comfort,
6:23:09efficiency, and affordability of homes.
6:23:12Measures to protect renters would help ensure
6:23:16vulnerable residents are not left behind
6:23:18during energy transition.
6:23:20However, a plan alone will not reduce energy inequity.
6:23:25A report sitting on a shelf will not lower utility bills,
6:23:30protect a senior during a heat wave,
6:23:32help a family living in an inefficient home.
6:23:35Implementation requires commitment, resources, and funding.
6:23:41We can't wait.
6:23:44Council has also the opportunity to create
6:23:46a sustainable long-term funding source when the city,
6:23:51and I'm being extremely hopeful here,
6:23:53when the city is successful in changing,
6:23:56charging Enbridge for the use of publicly owned rights of way,
6:23:59Guelph could receive an estimated four to $8 million annually.
6:24:03Those revenues could help energy and secure households
6:24:06for their utility bills, while also expanding grants
6:24:10and financing programs that reduce energy costs
6:24:13through energy efficiency, electrification, renewables,
6:24:17and energy storage improvements.
6:24:20I urge council to not only endorse this plan,
6:24:24but to fully fund it, fund its implementation,
6:24:27and begin identifying long-term revenue sources
6:24:30that can sustain this work.
6:24:32Investing in energy equity is an investment
6:24:34in public health, climate resilience,
6:24:38housing affordability, and dignity, above all dignity.
6:24:43Residents have told us what they need.
6:24:45Front-line organizations have identified the barriers.
6:24:48The researchers have provided the evidence.
6:24:51The question before council
6:24:53is no longer whether energy inequity exists,
6:24:56or whether action is needed.
6:24:58The question is whether we're prepared to act
6:25:01on what we know now.
6:25:02Thank you, Madam Chair.
6:25:05Thank you very much for your delegation.
6:25:07And thank you for giving our staff
6:25:13and Guelph Lab their flowers on this.
6:25:15I absolutely agree with you.
6:25:17I think it's a very well-done report.
6:25:19So sometimes we need to hear that from the public too.
6:25:22So I just wanna say thank you for that.
6:25:24With that, I'm going to ask my colleagues
6:25:26if there are questions.
6:25:26Councillor Bruce, you're up.
6:25:30Thank you very much.
6:25:31I too was very excited with this report.
6:25:33I sent a message to Caitlin at our office
6:25:37and said, do I have any hard copies
6:25:38that I can share with some other people?
6:25:41Thank you for this.
6:25:42When I think about the action plan,
6:25:44there's two parts to this.
6:25:46One is the technical side,
6:25:47the knowledge of if you did this, it would reduce this.
6:25:51And the other is the connection to the community,
6:25:54the invitation to those pockets
6:25:56where you can make the greater impact.
6:25:58When you think of how this might roll out,
6:26:01for me, I'm thinking local,
6:26:05connected some of the people that I know
6:26:06that were on the advisory committee
6:26:08that have that into the community
6:26:10and can have that conversation with them,
6:26:13build that trust and so on.
6:26:15How do you see something like this happening?
6:26:16Is it funding for an outside organization
6:26:19that's doing like project porch light,
6:26:21knocking on doors and handing out,
6:26:23you remember porch lights kind of thing?
6:26:26Or is it more of a community development model?
6:26:30I think there are an awful lot of not-for-profit groups
6:26:33that are servicing those that are suffering
6:26:38from energy and equity that know how to work
6:26:41with them directly.
6:26:42What's missing from that component,
6:26:44this is my opinion and obviously you're gonna ask
6:26:47the others about it as well,
6:26:48but what's missing from that is that technical expertise.
6:26:53In the work that we do at Emerge,
6:26:54we deal with a lot of people
6:26:56that can afford to do this type of work.
6:26:58And they're lost at trying to do some of this stuff.
6:27:01So when you're dealing with other challenges in your life
6:27:05and you don't have a trusted technical support
6:27:09that works in conjunction with those social services groups,
6:27:16I think that's a piece that's really needed
6:27:19and in the report, the reference to energy coaching,
6:27:24and specifically in the report,
6:27:26it states that that should be someone
6:27:27that has training as a certified energy advisor
6:27:33through NRCan, Natural Resources Canada.
6:27:35So you want that technical expertise,
6:27:37but you've also got that technical expertise,
6:27:40isn't necessarily, I'm not criticizing them,
6:27:44but they're not necessarily the best people
6:27:46at communicating sometimes,
6:27:47that they're quite passionate about what they're doing.
6:27:49And I think having that liaison with social services groups
6:27:53is critical to be able to make this as successful as possible.
6:27:59Thank you.
6:28:02Thank you for your delegation.
6:28:04Thank you, Evan.
6:28:05Thank you for being here this evening.
6:28:07I'm going to bring things back to us on the council side.
6:28:10So I know that Mayor Guthrie had asked
6:28:14to put the recommendation on the floor.
6:28:17And I saw Councillor Bousetel's hand go up first.
6:28:21I'm sorry, Councillor Caron, I saw you too.
6:28:23But thank you for everyone for putting their hands up
6:28:26to put these on the floor, because I think it's merited.
6:28:28Councillor, oh gosh, I'm so sorry.
6:28:32Mayor Guthrie.
6:28:34I don't care.
6:28:36You were first on my speaking list,
6:28:37and who else?
6:28:39Councillor Caron and Councillor Caiten as well.
6:28:42I see Caiten as well there, yeah.
6:28:43I just wasn't, I didn't get there yet.
6:28:45So thank you.
6:28:46And Councillor Bousetel.
6:28:48Okay, thank you and through you, Madam Chair.
6:28:52So I just wanted to quickly ask a few questions,
6:28:54maybe through you to Brian,
6:28:56and it is around the Guelph-Greener Homes Initiative.
6:29:00I was wondering if you could give an update.
6:29:02I know that we had a certain amount of money
6:29:05that was going to be going to these retrofits,
6:29:07and then we created that secondary sort of program,
6:29:10which you discussed at the microphone here for us,
6:29:13around financing, or not financing, funds,
6:29:16that would go directly to the very people
6:29:19that were talking about in this report.
6:29:21Can you give us just an update on how that's going?
6:29:27Through you, Chair, to Mayor Guthrie.
6:29:30So yeah, so we are approaching the end of year three
6:29:35of the four-year program with FCM.
6:29:39So the amount of funding for the low-end side of things
6:29:43was about $13.75 million,
6:29:47shared contribution between FCM and the city.
6:29:51So we're about fully subscribed on that side of things.
6:29:53However, there is a lot of work that still has to happen
6:29:56as people are doing their construction and whatnot.
6:29:58So as we get more cost certainty,
6:30:01as the budgets or the funding requests come in
6:30:04and they become actual costs,
6:30:06we'll get better ideas of that.
6:30:08So there may be some money that kind of frees up
6:30:11and then playing with some time,
6:30:12but as it stands, we're fully subscribed on that side.
6:30:16In terms of, as I mentioned at the opening remarks,
6:30:20there is the grant portion,
6:30:22the low income or the income eligible grant portion.
6:30:25So we are also fully subscribed to that.
6:30:27So putting that into dollars,
6:30:30we've allotted $1.3 million for that program.
6:30:36I'll say observations-wise,
6:30:39as we were kind of seeing through the work
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