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Special Council Meeting · August 16, 2023 · Item 2.

An additional $500,000 be awarded to Kindle Communities for the supportive housing project at 10 Shelldale Crescent from the Affordable Housing Reserve (#119) That to the…

Main motion under the agenda item Funding Support for Kindle Communities Supportive Housing - 2023-325

Carried (13 to 0)

13 in favour, 0 against — unanimous

What was voted on

The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.

That an additional $500,000 be awarded to Kindle Communities for the supportive housing project at 10 Shelldale Crescent from the Affordable Housing Reserve (#119) That to the satisfaction and authority of the City Solicitor and Deputy Chief Administrative Officer of Public Services, the necessary agreements be updated and executed with Kindle Communities to fund, outline, and monitor project criteria for the supportive housing project at 10 Shelldale Crescent.

Moved by Councillor Richardson, seconded by Councillor Allt.

How the room voted

In favour (13)

  • Allt
  • Billings
  • Busuttil
  • Caron
  • Caton
  • Chew
  • Downer
  • Gibson
  • Goller
  • Guthrie
  • Klassen
  • O'Rourke
  • Richardson

Who spoke to it

Colleen Clack-Bush, Deputy Chief Administrative Officer, Public Services, provided opening remarks. The following delegate spoke on the item: Susan Watson The following registered delegate did not speak on the item: Morgan Dandie

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What was said

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3:28it's back to us. So over to you Colleen, thank you very much. Good evening everyone. Thanks for

3:38being here. I want to start by thanking everyone to our clerk staff who worked quickly to pull

3:45this meeting together for us and for the staff who helped prepare this report and recommendation

3:50to the community stakeholders who came together quickly to work through this recommendation

3:54with us and finally to you as members of council for agreeing to this special meeting.

3:59As I think you all know from the conversation in July this was an extremely time sensitive issue

4:05and a need in our community but as we said at that time as staff we didn't feel we had enough

4:10information to provide you with a recommendation at that July meeting which we felt like we wanted

4:16to be able to do which was to bring you a staff report and a recommendation. So holding this

4:20special council meeting this evening gave us time to meet with those community stakeholders,

4:24evaluate the various options and then bring you that recommendation that's before you tonight

4:29in the form of our staff report. And as I said one of those main reasons that we weren't able to

4:34provide you with that recommendation at the July meeting is we hadn't had the opportunity yet to

4:38meet with the reps from the three organizations and there are three sort of stakeholder organizations

4:43who we met with Kindle communities as well as reps from both the United Way and the Gwellf

4:48Community Foundation who represent the Home for Good campaign. So since that council meeting in

4:53July we moved quickly and we had meetings with those three organizations. They are fully in

4:58support of the recommendations that are included in the staff report this evening. They also had

5:03the opportunity to review this report and provide feedback which we incorporated into the report.

5:08So the staff recommendation before you is that an additional $500,000 from the city,

5:13from the Affordable Housing Reserve be funded to the Kindle communities project and then the

5:18Home for Good campaign has committed to make up the balance of the $270,000 to address the full

5:25$770,000 shortfall that Kindle communities was facing here in August. So there's a number of

5:31recommendations reasons for this recommendation. I know what the last meeting that had been discussed

5:37about possibly providing funding again to the Home for Good campaign like was done a year ago,

5:43but that requires that matching dollars be raised by a certain deadline and in conversations with

5:47the partner organizations there was a concern that that could actually cause more instability for

5:52Kindle if there was a risk that if the matching dollars weren't raised that money would have to

5:57be repaid to the city and so that was a real concern and so the recommendation is that the

6:02money be flowed straight to Kindle communities and I just want to emphasize that that isn't in

6:06any way shape or form a comment on the Home for Good campaign simply a response to the very,

6:11very tight timeline that we were faced with with this ask and to make sure that the Kindle communities

6:17project at Shell Del Crescent remains viable because of those funding deadlines that were in

6:22place in August. From a process point of view staff felt most comfortable funding Kindle directly

6:29because Kindle completed the full RFP process that is as I think was mentioned in July our normal

6:35process is that we issue an RFP and organizations interested have to supply a full business plan

6:42and submit an application. Kindle has already done that that's been fully vetted staff both at the

6:46county of Wellington at the city had the opportunity to review that RFP and the business plan so this

6:52is simply just a change in the total grant amount it will be if approved tonight simply added as an

6:58addendum to their existing signed contribution agreement that they have with the city. This is

7:03also similar to what was done with St. Joe's previously although that was prior to this RFP

7:08process being in place but when St. Joe's also had some challenges with funding from other sources

7:13council approved a second sort of round of grant funding to St. Joe's so this would mirror that

7:18process but it certainly from a staff point of view we feel confident that Kindle has met the

7:25sort of obligations under the RFP process with their initial submission which we had the opportunity

7:29to vet and that recommendation had originally come to council. It also expedites the funding to

7:34Kindle because it does allow us to provide them with that funding this week if the motion were

7:38to pass so as you know from the July meeting there is a commitment to the Canadian Mortgage

7:42and Housing Corporation of August 15th. I know today is August the 16th we were able to work with

7:48CMHC because the agenda was published and they knew this meeting was coming they were comfortable

7:53with that little bit of leeway on the date and the reason why we asked for that leeway is we

7:59wanted this report to go out on the regular agenda give the public the normal amount of time to

8:04review the staff report so we worked with Kindle and CMHC to make sure that that deadline we had a

8:10little bit of wiggle room but a decision does need to be made tonight in terms of Kindle

8:16honoring that commitment through CMHC and so lastly I just want to reiterate that the Home for

8:22Good campaign has committed to covering the remaining $270,000 as a show of their continued

8:29commitment to the Kindle project and also to demonstrate that campaign stability. I also

8:33want to reiterate the city's support for the Home for Good campaign there's still a lot of work to

8:37be done to raise funds that are necessary to address systemic issues of homelessness in our

8:41community and we just didn't want these conversations to destabilize any of those fundraising efforts

8:47that need to continue moving forward so as I said the recommendation before you is that the $500,000

8:54be funded directly to Kindle that amount was chosen because that is the amount that was put

8:59into the affordable housing reserve as part of the 2023 budget so it would simply spend the amount

9:05that council has already designated into the fund this year in working with the county we confirmed

9:11that we are not aware of any other pending applications or organizations who were looking

9:16to apply in 2023 so what it would mean is that we wouldn't be issuing a further RFP until a later

9:22date sometime after the approval of the 2024 and our multi-year budget to determine if further funds

9:29are put into that affordable housing reserve so with that staff are obviously available here to

9:34answer any questions again I want to reiterate my thanks to Ms. Dana Evans and Ms. Tara Baker in

9:40particular who helped to turn this around as well as to our clerk staff who enabled us to turn

9:44around this really important meeting under a short timeline to address a significant need within our

9:50community. All right, ditto Colleen so thank you so much for your work and the thanks that you said

9:59there and that's good kind of summary of what the what the report states so thank you very much

10:07we do have a couple of delegations so I'll just jump to them in case there's any questions afterwards

10:12if there is any but we have a couple of delegations so I'm going to go to them and I think our first

10:18one's joining us by video and that's Morgan Danny is Morgan available for us hi mr. Mayor sorry for

10:26the interruption Morgan Danny has not been able to join the meeting at this point so we should go to

10:31the second delegate if Morgan Danny is able to join the meeting I'll let you know and we can cue

10:37up that delegation okay then by our audio I was told is Susan Watson and so Susan if you can hear

10:45me you can go right ahead as usual and I will just start the clock for you and you have no more

10:51than five minutes I want to interrupt and you can have your say as well welcome and the floor is yours

10:59can you hear me may I got three yeah you're coming through fine great let me just turn

11:06my own volume here thank you mayor got three and members of well city council I appreciate that this

11:16meeting is taking place I had hoped that we were going to see an end to gotcha politics where things

11:24were introduced at the last minute when people didn't have a chance to review the files or

11:29delegates didn't have a chance to register so I appreciate that this matter was deferred

11:35and that the process was normalized more when this happened in the last term of council it was

11:43quite upsetting to me that some people some counselors who voted against a contribution

11:50for affordable housing were accused on social media of not being in support of affordable housing

11:57because they had concerns around process and due diligence and and I don't want to see that happen

12:03anymore and it was especially egregious with councillor June Hoffland who was one of the founders

12:09of the of the anti-poverty task force so thank you for having this meeting this evening thank you for

12:15a commitment to good process and due diligence and I know that everyone who was elected

12:21to this term of well city council has a commitment to affordable and supportive housing so I

12:30I'd like to provide some further context to the request that's being made to you so providing

12:36an additional 500 000 to Kindle communities for supportive housing will work out to a total city

12:42contribution of 56 000 per unit for 32 units so let's stack that up against them the public money

12:51that citizens will be contributing to what Merritt style called luxury sprawl under bill 23

12:59so if development fees are completely waived for certain housing we could be sub subsidizing

13:05individual detached homes to the tune of 85 000 each so we could be giving one detached house

13:1385 000 whereas Kindle we're just looking at 56 000 per unit so under bill 23 for a one-bedroom

13:20unit the public subsidy could be 38 000 a bigger part in you're not coming through clearly

13:32I'm not coming through clearly

13:40yeah the reason why was because council are all unmuted for some reason but now he's found

13:44a button so that that's helpful I stopped your clock and I'll start it when you start back up okay

13:52okay so again I'm stacking it up against what would what you will be paying or what citizens

14:02will be paying under bill um under bill 23 so the catch is that a one-bedroom unit under bill 23

14:11could be a 500 000 condo and to afford a 450 000 mortgage someone would need a combined family income

14:21of around a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars a year the median household income and wealth is

14:2893 000 so people won't even qualify for the bill 23 subsidy even if they rank among the richest

14:3750 percent of wellfights the projected shortfall under bill 23 will be to be made up from taxes and

14:45water and wastewater fees will be 227 million dollars over 10 years which means that the city

14:54will be handing over an annual housing subsidy of 22.7 million dollars a year again to the richest

15:04wellfights and maybe the buyers won't even be wellfights maybe they will be one of the predatory

15:09corporations which are now buying up housing stock to add to their rental portfolios and charge

15:14exorbitant rents really this situation is completely perverse you are having an entire council meeting

15:23appropriately to debate a 500 000 tax contribution but we are going to be handing over 22.7 million

15:33dollars of public public money as housing subsidies to the wealthy with no debate so in this context

15:42absolutely you should be funding the kindle project but the subsidy you should be saying no to is

15:49public money for the wealthy we need to have a public debate about that 22.7 million annual housing

15:58subsidy further looking at this file holistically there are a number of other important things

16:04you as council need to consider as you are all likely aware 90 cardin street has been sold an

16:11eviction of tenants is underway 90 cardin has 50 apartments that house many people on Ontario

16:18works or od sp so despite the affordable housing projects underway in Guelph you are barely moving

16:25the needle perhaps you have taken two steps forward but 90 cardin is a big step back the city

16:32or the county should have bought 90 cardin i can't imagine it would have been more than the 22.7

16:39million annual gift we will soon be giving to developers and wealthy home buyers the people

16:46from 90 cardin will need somewhere to live winter is coming what i'm gonna ask you to find there

16:53Susan i'm so sorry it's i've given you an extra 25 seconds so i've had to had to stop you there i'm

16:59sorry but thank you for for joining us and let me just see if there's a follow-up question by anyone

17:09it does not again forgive me i just have to scroll through my screen here note there's no

17:17questions so thank you very much for joining us thank you bye bye all right bye bye and to you

17:24dylan is there is morgan dandy available now or no not at this point mr mayor i will advise during

17:34debate if morgan dandy does join but at this point she's not available okay no problem all

17:41right well i'll bring it back to us and to to move it into council i was told prior that

17:52it's an important project in ward three and i was told that councillor richardson and alt were

18:00happy to to move the the recommendations provided to us from staff so i'm not hearing them jump all

18:09over me for saying that so i think i think we're good so thank you moved and seconded by richardson

18:15and alt and i guess other than the report which to me is pretty clear and the presentation from

18:22staff which is pretty clear are there anything is there any further questions that need to be

18:27asked about this recommendation and again please forgive me i'm just having to scroll quite a bit

18:33here okay no i don't see any i believe i don't see any good okay all right and i have no questions

18:42so now i'll move to does anyone feel like they need to have any comments before i call the vote

18:49and i don't so far see anybody i see one or or and gypsin yep or or and gypsin go ahead

19:03councillor work thank you very much margothry i just wanted to thank staff

19:09who moved really quickly after the referral and and who worked with the proponents to come to a

19:14solution absolutely everybody wanted to see people housed by fall and so this is exciting

19:20and the only other comment i would make is that it'll be really important for the community

19:26and and all of our networks to mobilize to continue to support the home for good campaign

19:31so that these three permanent supportive housing units can be supported well into the future

19:37yeah thank you ditto to that and councillor gypsin i think yep yep go ahead thank you

19:45through mr mayor so again thanks to everyone i think everyone's been thanked here except for

19:49yourself mr mayor thank you very much for bringing this forward you are listening you brought forward

19:54in an urgent way and we got to a good resolution with only a minimal pause and i think that that's

20:00credit to yourself and to staff and for council for rallying around this issue so i'm happy to see

20:04moving forward okay great well thank you and so with that i'm just again scrolling back and forth

20:13here to make sure nobody else nope all right well thank you then my only comment is to say thank you

20:21to everybody involved uh to getting to yes as councillor richardson said a few days ago getting

20:27to yes on this so thank you and um and thank you very much to staff for clarifying and validating

20:36that there was an urgency to this issue um that that that uh that means a lot to have that validated

20:43so thank you uh with that i will again i forgive me as i scroll but i'll call the vote here is there

20:50anyone against sorry everybody just take some minute for the screen to go okay that's nobody

21:05that's unanimous thank you very much uh to the clerks uh you're good so far with that

21:12yep all right unanimous vote in favor thank you yeah all right and with that um i will go to

21:20councillor downer just to move the bylaws for tonight then please move that the bylaws number

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