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City Council · September 24, 2024 · Item 7.2

An enhanced level of streetscaping be approved for the Downtown Infrastructure Renewal Program giving priority to improved tree canopy, flexible streets, public seating…

Main motion under the agenda item Downtown Streetscape Level of Service and Construction Mitigation, 2024-353

Carried (12 to 0)

12 in favour, 0 against — unanimous

What was voted on

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That an enhanced level of streetscaping be approved for the Downtown Infrastructure Renewal Program giving priority to improved tree canopy, flexible streets, public seating, paving stones in highlighted areas, and a design that optimizes public space for the most efficient operating budget, subject to the project budget increase (estimated at $17.1 million) being adopted through the 2025 budget confirmation. That Staff prepare the design and tender of Wyndham Street North construction to expedite construction, with reasonable mitigation measures taken to minimize construction disruption and road closures.

Moved by Councillor Goller, seconded by Councillor Caron.

How the room voted

In favour (12)

  • Billings
  • Busuttil
  • Caron
  • Caton
  • Chew
  • Downer
  • Gibson
  • Goller
  • Guthrie
  • Klassen
  • O'Rourke
  • Richardson

Who spoke to it

The following delegate spoke: Mike Darmon

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39:23is the Downtown Streetscapes Level of Service and Construction Mitigation. Mike Darman from

39:28the Guelph Coalition for Active Transportation is here in person. Mike, come on down.

39:39And you as well, Mike, have been here before. You know the drill, so I'll turn it over to you.

39:44And no more than five minutes, the chime at four minutes and 30 seconds. Go ahead.

39:49Thanks Mayor Garthier. I haven't used one of these before, so you can give me a couple of seconds just to try it.

39:56Okay, good. Good evening, Councillor Mayor Garthier and City staff. My name is Mike Darman and I'm

40:02co-chair of GCAT Advocacy. We love the design of Wyndham Street because it is a crucial part of the

40:08overall vision we have for a more equitable, comfortable, active transportation network

40:15connectivity into and out of Downtown. In other words, a minimum grid of protected infrastructure.

40:21I echo Mayor Guthrie's comments at the Committee of the Whole that the staff

40:25presentation for Downtown Renewal is quote, the best he has ever seen, and I fully agree.

40:29The use of animation videos of Wyndham Street immediately makes you think,

40:34I want to visit a place like this. We are huge supporters of our Downtown and love the wide

40:39sidewalks, trees, benches, and public spaces which will transform our Downtown into an even more

40:44desirable destination. Regarding the shade trees, I really like what Project Manager Reg

40:49Russ Worm said at the cow meeting. No one can deny that a mature tree will have the biggest

40:55impact. We cyclists and walkers love the shade provided by the canopy. Public washrooms are

41:00crucial for a place to go and the waste container plan will vastly improve the look and feel of the

41:05space and make it a place you truly want to linger in, show off to your friends, and stay for a meal

41:11on a patio on a warm sunny day. An investment in our Downtown will reap many benefits but we need

41:17all the elements of the complete vision to make it work. Increased AT Motor Share is a main goal of

41:23the TMP. Protected bike lanes on Wyndham Street is a big step but investing in making a fully

41:28connected and protected minimum grid into and out of Downtown is crucial to success. So we are

41:35working and advocating with City Sustainable Transportation and Park staff on our vision of

41:40making Downtown an accessible and enjoyable destination by AT. We are very pleased with the

41:46current flexible, complete street design which includes protected bike lanes. I'll remind City

41:51Council that we compromise on choosing the flexible street design over permanent, unmovable

41:56protected infrastructure because we love the patio program and supporting local businesses.

42:01The protected bike lanes on Wyndham will encourage more people to use bicycles but we also need to

42:06make it pleasant and safe to connect. Wyndham from many points in the Downtown, for example if one is

42:12coming into the Downtown on a bike from the north like me, the obvious choice is the TCT Trail

42:18which is part of our active transportation network but it suddenly ends at Healy-Aremassa

42:24Road but no safe means to connect to Downtown or the new Wyndham Street protected bike lanes.

42:28I'm going to attempt to answer it. There's one solution and another and I think there we go. Good.

42:48I hope you can kind of get that. I can't get it to play again over and over but we're proposing

42:53making low slope cardigan street from the Norwood Street pedestrian bridge to a protected Eremassa

42:58Wyndham intersection bi-directional for bikes with a multi-use trail on one side. The trail would

43:04curve around and behind the cenotaph to the intersection which which continue the trail-like

43:09experience into Downtown quite unlike the current situation. High slope Eremassa will never get

43:14high modal share shift. So we have some good active transportation infrastructure and we have some

43:20great active transportation trails but they're disconnected networks when you reach street

43:26crossings with unsafe infrastructure and unfortunately this fact rings true every

43:32time we organize a GCAT ride into and out of our Downtown and sadly the ghost bike ride we are

43:37leading starting at City Hall this Saturday for a former GCAT member who died recently from her

43:41injuries following a collision while cycling on Victoria Road is no exception. If we are truly

43:47committed to making the Downtown an attractive destination and place to live we need complete

43:52AT grid connectivity to and from it. So consider the wise investment in flexible street design,

43:58trees, public washrooms and public amenity space only when it is all fully connected do you realize

44:03the vision and return on investment. Cycling master plan update will start in 2025 and I hope

44:10you will continue your support for Downtown renewal by also supporting the budget for the

44:16cycling master plan update. We hope many of the improvements for connectivity will be

44:20considered in the plan. In conclusion I would like to quote General Manager of Engineering

44:26Terry Gayman's comments from the COW meeting. We have a rare once in a generation opportunity

44:31to examine and build the things we love about Downtown Guelph connecting all the dots and all

44:35the opportunities. I couldn't agree more and hope you keep this in mind when we have the opportunity

44:40to support active transportation connectivity dots into and out of Downtown. Thanks.

44:47Thanks Mike appreciate you and your delegation looks like I have a follow-up here from just

44:52Councillor Goller. Thank you through your worship to Mr. Darwin. Thank you for your presentation.

44:59I wanted to get a little bit of clarity. You spoke about three options to connect the

45:05the Royal City Trail coming from Riverside Park into the Downtown. Which of those options would

45:13be preferred from the perspective of GCAT? I think by far if we could convert Cardigan Street

45:20into bidirectional it's the lowest slope you'll find of any direction coming from

45:24north into downtown. Aramasa is extremely just right near the end just before we get in.

45:32In fact I've seen bicyclists bike up right near the top and in one instance their chain snapped.

45:37It was so much effort they had to put onto it. So even putting protected bike lanes say from

45:42the lower slope at the bottom right up to the top wouldn't really get too many people actually

45:46biking in that in on that street. Another great connection though would be at

45:54Arthur Street where it meets Aramasa and we've actually suggested again to city staff that

46:00there's a pedestrian light further up the hill if you move it to that location.

46:04It's actually part of the bike route too so it would actually lead into downtown

46:08downtown too from several directions but also lead over to the ward actually

46:12where I travel all the time actually and anybody trying to cross Aramasa at that point knows it's

46:17a horrible way to cross it including the existing trail. The existing trail you know goes behind

46:23the large apartments and it's a there's a very tight section just before you get to Aramasa

46:29which is also a very you know it's actually kind of a dangerous spot for a lot of people especially

46:33at night time so and then you reach Aramasa again and it's very dangerous to cross there but you see

46:39people flying across all the time so I think ideally to offer the lowest slope or pedestrians

46:47and cyclists by the way just into downtown. Pedestrians it's a no-brainer but cyclists of

46:51course need that ease of getting into downtown and I see many cyclists illegally doing it already

46:58and it would be the same as actually what's happening on what we have right now on Wilson

47:02Street very similar situation. Thank you for that and the proposal then for Kartigan Street

47:08are you suggesting that we eliminate one of the lanes of parking on one side and make it

47:14active transportation or what is a request? It probably would need to be eliminated. I'm not

47:21sure we would have to get staff to look at that it might involve removing some parking which

47:28be an issue for some people. Okay well thank you thank you for your presentation.

47:31Thank you worship. Thank you and Councillor a work please. Thanks Margarit through you to

47:38Mr. Darman first of all condolences on the on the loss of your GCAT member and just because I'm

47:45focused on the agenda item which is the streetscapes downtown you're just connecting the docks

47:52so that we're thinking about it when the cycling master plan comes back correct you're not asking

47:57us to make a decision you're not you're just priming the pump for those future conversations

48:02that correct because we really do need to stay on the agenda. Yeah exactly yeah that's I'm asking

48:06for the next opportunity to just you know complete that vision and also get a return on what you're

48:10investing on downtown by you know by investing in this early in the cycling master plan hopefully not

48:18delaying it any further. Okay and through omega three to Mr. Darman you have no reason to believe

48:23that staff wouldn't consult with GCAT right like in that next so so it's quite likely that that

48:29staff will consult with GCAT when we develop that cycling master plan you have a good partnership so

48:34we expect that that is going to happen correct. Yep okay it's correct yeah great okay thanks.

48:41Yeah great thank you Mike thank you very much thanks okay may I have someone put the recommendation

48:50first number one and number two on the floor for me please okay Guller, Karan will do will do the

48:56seconder for that thank you. So I passed a motion that I thought would be interesting for us to at

49:05least have a little bit of a discussion on as we move forward I don't know I won't speak to it

49:10unless someone wants to actually move it and second it for me for discussion it has to do

49:16with looking to save a little bit of money on the sidewalk pavers issue and concrete so I will just

49:24ask to see if anyone wants to move their second that for me if not then we'll move on okay we'll

49:31move on thank you is anyone want to comment before we move on to number for either of those

49:38no oh yes okay Guller and then I'll call the vote thank you through worship just a question for

49:44staff with regards to the delegation we received from GCAT if I could just have a confirmation and

49:51understanding the importance of the connectivity into the downtown as we build the the downtown

49:57active transportation infrastructure could you confirm that that staff will be exploring those

50:02connections as part of the transportation master plan update that's coming early next year

50:09through the through the chair to council Guller so yes connectivity for cycling is always very

50:15important to us that's always what we're trying to achieve as we go through some of our designs in

50:22the downtown so we've as councillor roark had mentioned that we have a really good relationship

50:28with GCAT we value their input so of course they will be part of the stakeholder group that we will

50:34consult in order to be able to do when we start to go into detail design perfect I really appreciate

50:39that and could we could we expect a response once the the staff information comes back to to council

50:47that reflects that these options have been considered as part of that work in next year

50:53well we probably wouldn't come back to council I think what I'd like to be able to tell you is

50:58that we will we will take that away and as we normally would we would consult with all stakeholders

51:04but again I I think we're violently agreeing here that we all want the same thing so we will come

51:11up with a solution that that works the best for everybody thank you very much thank you worship

51:17great thank you all right we're ready to call the vote then is anyone against those two motions for

51:24for this councillor Caton did you have a comment or I had a question okay go ahead okay I will remove

51:36okay next time get your get that get that hand up for me I will not I will just revoke that

51:43call for the vote and I'll go to you go ahead thank you sir through you to staff I had a question

51:49about the AAC feedback and how that would be incorporated during the design phase I just

51:56had a concern about the potential of the pavers I just heard in the past from the AAC that they

52:02preferred no pavers so I just wanted to know how that would go if the AAC is very against the type

52:10of pavers used then what would happen in that case um through the through the chair to councillor

52:18caten I'm actually a little a little bit surprised that they might be um not in support of the pavers

52:25a lot of times when the pavers do allow us to demark some different areas of the right-of-way

52:32that is desirable from an AAC point of view we are actually going to go back to the AAC when

52:39we start to do our detailed design when that design is ready we will go to the AAC and get

52:46some advice from them in terms of what their concerns are and how we might be able to address

52:50them so we would do that with any project councillor Caton um and try to take everybody's I understand

52:56that we're not going to make everybody happy we certainly do try um and we do take the advice of

53:01the AAC uh very seriously so um we are going back in December to review um what we have in terms of

53:09design with them so we will take that away and try to incorporate that into our design

53:14thank you very much thank you okay with that for real for really easy this time I'm going to call

53:23the votes anyone against those two motions for the downtown construction and streetscape

53:29unanimous okay that's that's great is there anything else on that item at all no okay we're

53:38moving to the next delegation an item I'm improving access to public washrooms in Guelph again Morgan

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