City Council · September 24, 2024 · Item 9.
Mayor be directed to write a letter to the Premier of Ontario, the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, the Minister of Transportation, AMO…
Main motion under the agenda item Mayor’s Announcements
Carried (8 to 2)
8 in favour, 2 against
This was one of 2 motions on the same item
In the order council took them. A vote makes sense next to the ones around it.
- 1/2Main motionSection 5.11 of the City of Guelph Procedure Bylaw be suspended to permit a motion to be placed on an agenda without prior notice to the…Carried (11 to 1)
- 2/2Main motionMayor be directed to write a letter to the Premier of Ontario, the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, the Minister of Transportation, AMO…you are hereCarried (8 to 2)
What was voted on
The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.
That the mayor be directed to write a letter to the Premier of Ontario, the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, the Minister of Transportation, AMO, OBCM and MPP Mike Schreiner on behalf of Guelph City Council to oppose the media reported planned provincial legislation to restrict municipal bike lane placement as counter to: Guelph’s Vision Zero goals; best practices in transportation management; climate change initiatives; cost management for future infrastructure maintenance; Bill 185’s development goals; and economic benefits to businesses. Further that the mayor request the provincial government instead invest in funding public transportation goals to reduce traffic congestion and aide future developments to be built with less parking.
Moved by Councillor Caton, seconded by Councillor Goller.
How the room voted
In favour (8)
- Busuttil
- Caron
- Caton
- Chew
- Downer
- Goller
- Klassen
- O'Rourke
Against (2)
- Guthrie
- Richardson
Who spoke to it
Councillor Klassen noted that an open house is taking place at City Hall, on October 2, 2024 at 6:00 p.m. regarding Downtown Renewal phasing and mitigation strategies, and will also be live streamed. Also being held is a Construction Café on October 17, 2024 from 9:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.
What was said
2,182 words from the meeting recording, transcribed automatically. Times are from the start of the recording.
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57:59uh announcements and or comments I have one from councillor uh clausen and then just one quick
58:07quick insight from myself so go ahead oh and from katin as well okay so you go first uh
58:16uh councillor Klassen yes thank you mr. mayor I've got two announcements both to do with
58:22uh downtown renewal so coming up um on october 2nd which is next wednesday we have um our
58:30downtown renewal open house um it's taking place right here at city hall so door is open at six and
58:37there is a presentation with a q and a happening at 6 30 uh which will be able which will be live
58:43streamed as well so people can tune in at home um and we'll be talking about uh some of the phasing
58:50and mitigation strategies um so that's the first one we hope you can all make it out to that one
58:57and then on october 17th um there's the next construction cafe and it's taking place at cornerstone
59:03and it's happening from 9 30 until 11 30 and we suggest that downtown businesses attend these
59:10to talk with staff about what's happening downtown uh and what what those mitigation strategies are
59:16going to be for those businesses so it's really important to come out and really get that face to
59:21face time thanks great thank you and katin please yes I had a motion that I sent out earlier today
59:35okay I I had asked if there's anything more on that item and you did not you did not jump in at
59:42that time frame for the downtown streetscape I said right after I called the vote I said is there
59:47anything more on that item so it was my understanding because it's not directly about the streetscape
59:53that it wasn't on that item so so it's just an added item yet because it's just topple to the
1:00:01item because it's about um the Ontario government and their bike lanes so it's a separate motion
1:00:14related to that because yes yeah and I I acknowledge that fully acknowledge that but I
1:00:20I asked at that point if if there's anything more on that item and then there wasn't so then we moved
1:00:26to the washrooms so that item is now technically closed so to bring it forward now would I have to
1:00:33do a notice of motion no well or you could find another spot for it or I could ask uh council
1:00:41to suspend the procedural bylaw I would need a vote of three just give me a minute everybody
1:00:47thanks I would need a vote of three you know a majority of council present to do that and then
1:00:54we could go back and look to actually table that as a third item something it's up to you
1:01:01I'm happy to do whichever one you feel is better in this situation well um
1:01:10all right I will ask for a motion for uh reconsider sorry to suspend the procedural
1:01:17bylaw I would imagine be the first step to the clerk am I right yeah through you mr mayor
1:01:23I think in this case you would want to suspend section 5.1 one of the procedural bylaw related
1:01:28to notice is a motion to allow a notice to be placed on an agenda without prior notice to the
1:01:32public or members of council it is in reference though to what item 7.2 was so like there's a
1:01:41little bit of a caveat there to give her credit right so okay so um I will I will ask that uh
1:01:49I I'm asking council to allow this okay because councillor caton did send it out earlier and
1:02:01there could be an onus here a little bit on me for not nudging at that moment other than asking
1:02:05is there anything more so I just I think it's only reasonable for me to be fair to her to allow her
1:02:12to at least bring that forward I that's just to me that's only fair okay so um with I just so
1:02:18procedurally I just got to do a couple little hurdles here to get back to 7.2 councillor caton
1:02:23to allow you to do that okay so just forgive me on that but who wouldn't be willing to move the
1:02:28suspension then for me goller and clausen will second okay um and so I'll call the vote on the
1:02:36suspension uh is there anyone against okay just one so that passes all right so to the clerks
1:02:46can I just now go back to that moment of 7.2 and look to add a third of course it's up to
1:02:52council to vote for it but can I just go back to that moment in time now through you mr mayor I
1:02:57don't know that we're going back to that moment in time but I think a motion can be placed on the
1:03:01floor at this point in the agenda in reference to 7.2 okay councillor caton sorry about that
1:03:07about the hurdles there but we did get through them pretty quick so I know that your intention
1:03:13was to speak directly to 7.2 which is like the downtown streetscapes it was it was launching off of
1:03:19that yes and it was in regards to sort of a third motion sort of a standalone motion in regards to
1:03:26that item so I'm going to turn the mic over to you but just make sure that you do have a
1:03:31seconder up front for this before you before you go on and on okay so I'll turn the mic over to you
1:03:37go ahead thank you and I apologize for the procedural snafus there um if clerks could
1:03:44put them motion on the screen please so through you mr mayor sorry we'll just need an extra moment
1:03:50to get that pulled back up and ready well we'll pull it up okay I can do my pre-talk while you're
1:03:55doing that so um this is in regards to um the provincial government's reports that they are
1:04:03going to be changing where we can put bike lanes so here's a thoughtful planning best practices and
1:04:10community engagement I've gone into our transportation master plan as well as our downtown uh infrastructure
1:04:17and streetscaping a wide micromanaging approach to where bike lanes should be simply doesn't work
1:04:24not all municipalities have side roads that run the length of their main roads
1:04:28legislation that's imagined for grid cities like Toronto forced on an entire province
1:04:32are going to cost us time money and ultimately lives as you heard um very recently Susan Bard a
1:04:39local community gardener volunteer and avid cyclist was killed after being struck by a vehicle on
1:04:44Victoria drive outside of a high school near a commercial center by Grange road on her 79th
1:04:49birthday Ford's legislation would make us unable to put bike lanes along Victoria drive
1:04:54Grange road and all other main roads currently lacking cycling infrastructure which could include
1:04:59wind up in downtown and council has agreed in the past that a safe active transportation network
1:05:04meets the needs of our climate change plan vision zero and gives people the infrastructure they need
1:05:09to live in newly mandated parking free developments imposed on us by uh bill 185 so we need to tell
1:05:17the government that this idea doesn't work for Guelph and instead to invest in public transportation
1:05:22to help relieve traffic congestion and so my motion would be that the mayor be directed to
1:05:29write a letter to the premier of Ontario minister of municipal affairs and housing minister of
1:05:33transportation amo obcm and mpp mike shriner on behalf of the city wealth council to oppose the
1:05:40media reported plan for provincial legislation to restrict municipal bike lane placement as
1:05:45counter to wealth division zero goals best practices and transportation management
1:05:50climate change initiatives cost management for future infrastructure maintenance
1:05:54bill 185 development goals and economic benefits to business further that the mayor requests the
1:05:59provincial government instead invest in public funding public transportation goals to reduce
1:06:05traffic congestion and aid future developments to be built with less parking and it's going to be
1:06:11seconded by councillor Goller okay thank you so much is there anything further on this item from any
1:06:19members of council okay well there is from me so the legislation is not even tabled yet
1:06:30so we're basing a motion on media i'm i'm not i'm not really down for that that's not how i'm
1:06:40going to move forward on deciding things so i will decide things once legislation is actually
1:06:45tabled um i so i will not be supporting this so any other comments at all okay goer thank you
1:06:55through your worship just to that point uh the reason i'm supporting this at this very early
1:07:00stage is that oftentimes when the province has asked for input from the municipalities
1:07:05they two days later they make it into law without even reading our comments so maybe if we act
1:07:12proactively uh and get our comments in before a common period it may have more of an impact
1:07:18thank you katin and karan uh through you mr mayor exactly what councillor Goller said
1:07:26we've noticed that there has been a pattern of pushing things through very quickly and so because
1:07:32this is now at the stage before it's being written i think it's the time to do our commentary so that
1:07:40they understand the impact it would have and then potentially we won't have to go through
1:07:44the large process so i'm trying to get in early so they can understand how this would impact
1:07:51the groups outside of toronto because sometimes um there's a toronto-centric view
1:07:59when they're creating legislation okay thank you and karan
1:08:04yeah i had similar comments i think copying our mpb a copying amo and other municipalities
1:08:11is key because if this input starts to create momentum they get province um early early out
1:08:23might uh nip this great thank you all right i'll call oh sorry councillor Downer
1:08:32well nothing's coming forward like the legislature i mean the premier is talking about it himself
1:08:40so um you know this he's saying it's coming forward i'm just reading quotes from him here
1:08:46from him saying that this is what he wants to do so i think we i don't see any problem with
1:08:52responding to his comments that's what he wants to do okay thank you all right um i'll call the vote
1:09:02is anyone against two richardson and guthrie okay that passes great sorry about the mess on how that
1:09:11got there uh katin but good that you got it done okay is there anything else before i move on
1:09:18okay for real this time okay you have six motions councillor clauson no you don't okay i i had mentioned
1:09:29during the mayor's announcement that i just wanted to say something and i meant to say this earlier so
1:09:33if if council could just give me a tiny bit of grace um it's just in regards actually it's an
1:09:40overall statement just in regards to correspondence um you know i just want to make sure that when we
1:09:45receive correspondence there correspondence is a flow through right it's directly from constituents
1:09:51right through our clerk's office and it lands on our desks as the elected officials the decision makers
1:09:57and it's important that that process of correspondence flowing from a constituent
1:10:02through the clerk's office it has a high standard of transparency of not editing or omitting and
1:10:09things like that and so i know that there was some friction in regards to one of the core pieces of
1:10:14correspondence from an earlier item and i just wanted to make sure that i addressed that um that
1:10:21there are sometimes things we may not like and in fact there was many things i did not like or nor
1:10:26agree with in some of the correspondence and that's that's the way it works there can be lots of
1:10:31correspondence or delegations or things like that that come forward where we may agree or not not
1:10:35not agree on certain certain things um but we have to be careful i think as as as we're i say this to
1:10:41citizens as as we sit as we write things in you know to be careful about what we are saying especially
1:10:46when we're addressing other people or other things like that as well so um but again the high standards
1:10:52of transparency and flow through to the decision makers as us as the elected officials um that's an
1:10:57important piece of democracy really and transparency of having that come through as unedited and
1:11:03unomitted of things as possible and so i just want to make sure that that was addressed because i know
1:11:09it was a little bit of a concern moving from committee the whole to here uh and uh thank you
1:11:13for allowing me just that moment for for addressing that issue um with that then i will ask for
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