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Council Planning · June 11, 2024 · Item 3.1

Statutory Public Meeting Report regarding proposed Official Plan and Zoning By-law Amendment applications submitted by MHBC Planning Limited, on behalf of Forum Asset Management… be received

Main motion under the agenda item Public Meeting Report 601 Scottsdale Dr. Proposed Official Plan and Zoning By-law Amendments OZS24-007 Ward 5 - 2024-265

Carried (12 to 0)

12 in favour, 0 against — unanimous

What was voted on

The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.

That the Statutory Public Meeting Report regarding proposed Official Plan and Zoning By-law Amendment applications submitted by MHBC Planning Limited, on behalf of Forum Asset Management, to permit the development of two, 7-storey residential buildings containing 489 residential suites geared to students on the vacant portion of the property municipally known as 601 Scottsdale Drive and legally described as Block K, Registered Plan 649, City of Guelph, from Infrastructure, Development and Environment dated June 11, 2024 be received.

Moved by Councillor Busuttil, seconded by Councillor Richardson.

How the room voted

In favour (12)

  • Allt
  • Billings
  • Busuttil
  • Caton
  • Chew
  • Downer
  • Gibson
  • Goller
  • Guthrie
  • Klassen
  • O'Rourke
  • Richardson

Who spoke to it

Lindsay Sulatycki, Senior Planner, introduced the item. The following delegates spoke: T. Hawkins, Forum Asset Management

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What was said

4,724 words from the meeting recording, transcribed automatically. Times are from the start of the recording.

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13:17to hear applications under section 1734

13:20and 51 of the Public Planning Act.

13:23This is specific to 601 Scottsdale Drive,

13:27which is a proposed official plan

13:29and zoning bylaw amendment.

13:31It's in Ward 5.

13:32We're gonna start with a presentation from our own staff

13:36and then someone on behalf of the proponent

13:38will come up as well.

13:40And so let's turn it over to our staff.

13:43Lindsay, welcome and I'll turn it over to you.

13:50Good evening, Mayor Guthrie, members of council,

13:53staff and members of the public who are present

13:56in council chambers tonight

13:57and those watching from home.

13:59My name is Lindsay Sula-Tickey

14:01and I'm gonna be presenting the statutory public meeting

14:04report for 601 Scottsdale Drive.

14:12So applications for an official plan

14:14and zoning bylaw amendments have been received

14:16for the subject property from MHBC Planning Limited

14:19on behalf of Forum Asset Management

14:23to permit the development of two seven story

14:25residential buildings containing 489 residential suites

14:28geared to students attending the University of Guelph.

14:31So tonight is the statutory public meeting

14:33and no decisions are gonna be made

14:35on the applications tonight.

14:38The subject property is located on the west side

14:41of Scottsdale Drive between Janefield Avenue

14:43and Stone Road West, east of the Hanlon Parkway.

14:48The subject property is approximately 2.2 hectares in size

14:51with approximately 122 meters of frontage

14:56along Scottsdale Drive.

14:58The subject property is partially developed

15:00with an eastern portion, sorry,

15:04the subject property is partially developed

15:06with an eastern portion occupied

15:07with a former hotel building

15:09that was converted into a residential building

15:11containing 164 residential suites geared to students

15:15as part of the phase one development.

15:17And phase one was approved

15:18through previous planning applications

15:20and is currently occupied.

15:31The applicant is proposing two seven story

15:33residential buildings connected by a single story

15:36indoor amenity area with 489 units.

15:39A one level parking structure is also being provided

15:42and the proposed structures are part of the phase two

15:44development of the lands to create

15:46a student residential complex.

15:48While the current conceptual plans show 653 total units

15:52for phases one and two, the requested density

15:54of 300 units per hectare permits flexibility

15:58to accommodate an additional 12 units within phase two

16:01within the proposed building envelope

16:03should the interior composition of the buildings change

16:06through detailed design.

16:07And these additional 12 units would bring

16:09the total number of units on the site to 665 units.

16:20And so I just put up the proposed conceptual site plan

16:23which shows phase one and phase two

16:25and the proposed two seven story buildings.

16:28And I know the applicant's gonna be getting

16:30into more detail with regards to the concept plan.

16:39The subject property is designated

16:41as mixed use corridor one in the official plan.

16:44This designation is intended to serve both the needs

16:46of residents living and working within the corridor

16:49in nearby neighborhoods and employment districts

16:51and the wider city as a whole.

16:53Permissible uses within this designation include medium

16:56and high density, multiple unit residential buildings,

16:59institutional uses, hotels, commercial uses,

17:01retail and service uses.

17:07So the applicant has applied for an official plan amendment

17:11and the to add a site specific policy

17:14to the subject property that would permit a maximum

17:16net density of 300 units per hectare

17:18from multiple unit residential buildings

17:20within the mixed use corridor one land use designation.

17:24And the maximum net density would reflect

17:27both the existing and proposed development on the site.

17:30The applicant has applied for a zoning bylaw amendment

17:34as well.

17:35And so they've applied to the 1995 zoning bylaw

17:38and the 2023 zoning bylaw.

17:41The subject property is currently zoned

17:43a specialized service commercial zone

17:46in the 1995 zoning bylaw.

17:52And the purpose of the zoning bylaw amendment

17:55is to establish site specific zoning regulations

17:58in the 1995 zoning bylaw

18:00through a specialized service commercial zone.

18:06And specific specialized regulations are requested

18:10to facilitate the proposal.

18:12Specifically in the 1995 bylaw

18:15to permit a maximum net density of 300 units per hectare

18:18to align with the proposed official plan amendment

18:21to permit a minimum interior side yard setback

18:23of 13.8 meters.

18:25Whereas the zoning bylaw requires a setback

18:28of one half the building height, which would be 14.5 meters

18:32and to permit a parking rate of 0.28 spaces per unit

18:35inclusive of visitors, visitor parking.

18:38Whereas the site specific specialized service

18:41commercial zone currently requires one parking space

18:43per unit plus 0.1 spaces for visitor parking for unit.

18:56So the existing 2023 zoning bylaw zones this property

19:03as a site specific mixed use quarter

19:06with a parking adjustment and holding provision

19:08according to the 2023 zoning bylaw.

19:14So the applicant is asking for a site specific

19:16zoning regulations in the 2023 bylaw.

19:26And I'm just gonna read them quickly with regard

19:29to the specialized zoning regulations requested.

19:32The first one is to remove the H12 holding provision

19:35from the subject property.

19:37Whereas section 17.1.12 requires municipal services

19:42to be adequate and available prior to development

19:44of the lands to permit a maximum density

19:47of 300 units per hectare,

19:52to permit an angular plane of 58 degrees

19:54for a small portion of the lands

19:55abutting the institutional use along the northerly line,

19:59to permit a buffer strip of 1.4 meters

20:02along the North property line,

20:04to permit a common amenity space

20:06of 6.8 square meters per unit.

20:08Whereas the site specific zone requires a minimum

20:11common amenity area of 1300 square meters for the property,

20:16to permit a parking rate of 0.28 spaces per unit

20:19inclusive of visitor parking spaces,

20:22and to allow for an electric vehicle

20:24parking provision of five spaces,

20:27to allow for a designed electric vehicle parking space

20:32provision of 20 spaces,

20:34and to allow for a bicycle parking rate

20:36of 0.57 spaces per unit.

20:48So the review of these applications

20:49will address the following evaluation of the proposal

20:53for conformity and consistency with the Planning Act,

20:56evaluation of the proposal for conformity

20:58and consistency with Provincial Policy

21:00and Statement and Legislation,

21:03evaluation of the proposal's conformity

21:05with the Official Plan,

21:06including a review of the proposed Official Plan Amendment,

21:08and evaluation of the proposal's conformity

21:11with the Zoning Bylaw,

21:13and including the review of any site-specific regulations

21:16requested.

21:17So once staff have done a full review of the application,

21:20we'll bring forward a recommendation report to council

21:23at a later date.

21:24So if there's anyone who wants to stay informed

21:28on any revisions or future decisions on the applications,

21:32I would ask that you send an email to planningagwelf.ca

21:35and we can add your name to the interested parties list.

21:38So that concludes my presentation,

21:40and I'd be happy to answer any questions if there are any.

21:46Well, thank you, Lindsay, appreciate it.

21:48And, you know, maybe there may be a few questions

21:50after our next delegate for sure,

21:52but thank you very much.

21:53And speaking of delegates,

21:56so Trevor Hawkins is here from Form Asset Management

22:01on his way down to the microphone.

22:03Trevor, thank you for coming.

22:07And just so you know, and if anyone's listening,

22:10that might want to call in on this issue too,

22:13it's no more than 10 minutes,

22:15and you'll hear a chime at nine minutes and 30 second mark

22:19as your 30 second warning,

22:21and then you get me at 10 minutes cutting you off.

22:24So I don't want to do that.

22:26So if you could keep within the timeframe,

22:28that would be great.

22:29And then stick around if there's any questions

22:30as a follow up for this proposal.

22:32Okay, so I'll turn it over to you.

22:33You go right ahead.

22:34Thank you, Mayor Guthrie.

22:36Here on behalf of Forum,

22:38I'm Trevor Hawkins from MHBC Planning,

22:41and with me this evening are the architects

22:44from Sweeney Architects as well.

22:50Here we go.

22:51Lindsay's gone through the location,

22:52but we just wanted to highlight a few

22:54of the other attributes of the site.

22:56It's well situated in terms of commercial amenities

22:58in the area, of course, the mall across the street,

23:01but numerous commercial uses within walking distance,

23:04transit routes, all of the students

23:06who would be attending the university,

23:08of course, get transit passes with their tuition,

23:11and would be able to take transit

23:12to not only the university, but downtown Guelph

23:15and many other amenities in the community.

23:17So it's a very walkable area,

23:19very accessible area for transit as well.

23:23Just to the north of this property,

23:26we can see on the smaller image down on the bottom right,

23:29there's two uses, one, an approved development

23:32for residential building, 10 stories in height,

23:34and then immediately sort of in the south,

23:37or the northwest corner of the site

23:39is an institutional use with a community garden at the rear.

23:45Council may be familiar with the first phase

23:48of this development, which came through

23:50for approval during COVID.

23:53It's now fully occupied, fully leased.

23:56It was a renovation of a former holiday inn.

23:59Encourage council to visit the building.

24:01It's a beautiful building.

24:02We can see some of the interior shots.

24:05The intent of this phase, the first phase,

24:08as well as the second phase,

24:09is to create a purpose-built housing for students

24:13at the University of Guelph with a unique set of amenities

24:17both inside the building,

24:18and then as part of the combined phase one and two,

24:20outside the building as well.

24:21So it's a very unique concept.

24:24It's different than apartment buildings

24:26that may be marketed or advertised to students.

24:31This is a different type of product

24:33that is purposely designed for students at the university.

24:37The lands are owned by the university.

24:39So there's a lease agreement between Forum and the University

24:42to provide these units for students

24:45who are attending the university.

24:49The Lindsey, again, has put up the slide.

24:51We'll just walk through some of the main components of it.

24:54There's a single access proposed from Scottsdale.

24:56So the site, when it was a holiday in, had two accesses.

25:00They've been merged into a single access response

25:02to comments from city transportation.

25:05So the entryway is on either side of the first phase,

25:08providing access to the rear of the site,

25:09which is currently either occupied by surface parking

25:12or is vacant.

25:14And that is where the new two buildings will go,

25:16both seven stories linked by a single story indoor amenity area.

25:20And then as folks who are familiar with the site

25:23would know, there's hydro lines go through

25:26sort of the middle of the site.

25:27They're showing them next to that sort of dotted blue line.

25:32And there's amenity areas proposed,

25:34outdoor amenity areas proposed within that space.

25:37So they're accessible for tenants of phase one and phase two.

25:41And they're intended to create sort of a campus,

25:44an off campus, campus like feel,

25:46or community for students who are attending the university

25:50in terms of sharing those amenities

25:52and the social interaction that would go with that.

25:57This is a rendering that shows us the first phase

26:00in the bottom right and the second phase

26:02to the left of the image looking sort of north

26:05along the Hanlon Expressway to the north parts of the city.

26:09Lindsay's indicated 489 units proposed in the second phase,

26:13653 if we add the first and second phase together,

26:17with a mixture of suites, sort of studio suites,

26:21as well as some two bedroom suites.

26:25The next image will show us a sort of zoomed in look

26:27of the amenity area.

26:28So this is if we're standing sort of towards the rear

26:31of the first phase looking towards the second phase

26:33and towards the Hanlon, this is the link

26:36that joins the two buildings and offers a combination

26:39of programmed outdoor and indoor amenity areas.

26:42So four season environment for the students.

26:45Parking would be hidden underneath the buildings

26:48because of the way the property slopes.

26:50And there would be both vehicular parking as well

26:52as bicycle parking, secure indoor bicycle parking

26:55for the students of both the phases.

27:02Here's another image looking sort of from Stone Road.

27:05We can see the first phase of the building

27:08in the prominent sort of closer to Stone Road.

27:11And as you go around the building towards the rear,

27:13the two seven story buildings.

27:15So this site in the city's official plan

27:18is planned for 14 stories.

27:21So these two seven story buildings

27:23are more or less about half of the permitted height

27:26in the official plan and sort of offer a gentle increase

27:29in height as you go from phase one towards the Hanlon.

27:41The official plan amendment is very straightforward.

27:43It's a request to increase the density from 250 to 300

27:46units per hectare.

27:47These units are smaller than a typical apartment unit.

27:51So there's more of them.

27:52And as a result, the density increases

27:55from a metric perspective.

27:57And that is the basis for the request.

28:00Because the submission was made in sort of that gray area

28:03where the city had two zoning bylaws,

28:05the request reflects relief from both bylaws

28:08from the 1995 bylaw to recognize a reduced setback

28:12from the North Lotline parking as well as the density.

28:16And then from the city's new zoning bylaw,

28:19some of the site specific requests

28:20relate to the angular plane requirement.

28:23So that pertains to the interface with the church property.

28:27The church building is set way towards Janefield.

28:30So it is a technical request.

28:33But it doesn't really impact the usability

28:35of the church property.

28:37The parking request is really to reflect the unique use

28:40and the unique aspect of this development.

28:43It doesn't require a lot of parking.

28:45The take up of parking in the first phase

28:47has been quite low.

28:50And the request for phase two and the overall site request

28:53reflects both the take up and the demand for parking

28:56in the first phase, but also forms experience

28:59with other student buildings that they've built all

29:01across Canada for other universities.

29:04So they have a fair bit of experience

29:06in catering to this market and a fair bit of data

29:09with which to draw upon as well.

29:14A number of studies were submitted

29:16to the city as part of the review.

29:18And I understand, of course, that those studies

29:20are being reviewed and we'll get comments.

29:23So we've looked at all matters related

29:25to engineering of the site, noise because of the proximity

29:28to the highway, environmental assessment,

29:31landscape plans, arborist reports,

29:33and of course the traffic study and the parking study,

29:36all of which we expect will be reviewed

29:38and we'll certainly work with staff

29:40to address any comments that they may have.

29:44So we've sort of wound our way through the process

29:48from the pre-submission, the neighborhood meeting,

29:50through the formal submission,

29:51and now we're at the statutory public meeting,

29:54looking forward to working with staff

29:56to bring this back before council

29:58for a positive reception and to provide the housing

30:03that the university needs and the community needs.

30:08I think I kept within my 10 minutes

30:10and thank you, Mayor Guthrie, for the time.

30:12I didn't hear a chime, so you're good.

30:14Thank you.

30:17Appreciate it, thank you for your presentation.

30:19Is there anyone with a follow-up question

30:20for our delegate at all?

30:22Okay, I'll go Gibson and Katen and then O'Rourke.

30:27Thank you, through you, Mr. Mayor,

30:28just actually just a point of interest for me.

30:31I noticed phase one and phase two of environmental assessment.

30:34I'm pretty commonly familiar with the phase one

30:37on a site that's been used,

30:38but can you just expand on why the phase two?

30:43Oh, the property was previously used for commercial use.

30:46So when you go from a commercial use to a sensitive use,

30:49it triggers a record of site condition

30:51in almost every single scenario.

30:53Okay, that's great, thank you.

30:56Thank you, Katen.

30:58Thank you, through you, Mr. Mayor.

31:00I was just, again, more about an interest question.

31:05Are there any units that are gonna be accessible

31:08to wheelchair users?

31:11The, through you, Mayor Guthrie,

31:12the building will be barrier-free accessible.

31:15It'll be designed to meet all accessibility standards.

31:18Thanks to the mayor, but will the unit speak?

31:21I know that people will be able to get into the building,

31:23but are there gonna be residences for people or students

31:28that have the need of a wheelchair?

31:32Let me just turn to the architect.

31:34I know there's a percentage.

31:38We know what the percentage.

31:41They're like, the legislation does require

31:43a certain percentage of the units.

31:4615% of the units would be designed

31:48for barrier-free accessibility.

31:50Great, I'm super glad to hear that.

31:53That is all, thank you.

31:54Thank you, Anna Rourke.

31:58Thank you, Mayor Guthrie, through you to our delegate.

32:02I just had a couple of questions around parking,

32:05so I'm happy to hear that parking in phase one

32:07was not fully utilized.

32:10I just wanna ask you about the decreasing

32:13the electric vehicle parking space provision.

32:16Just in light of the fact that by 2035,

32:18you won't be able to buy a gas-powered vehicle.

32:24Do you have a conversion plan then so that,

32:27if you have this now, but really in 10 years,

32:30you're gonna be staring down the barrel

32:31of most people having an electric vehicle.

32:34So I'm just wondering why you need to reduce

32:37that electric vehicle parking.

32:39If so, if you have a plan to convert in an easy way later.

32:43Through you, Mayor Guthrie, it's a very good question.

32:47As an EV driver myself,

32:49I certainly did ask that question as well of Forum.

32:53There are a number of surface parking spaces

32:55associated with the development,

32:56which could certainly be converted

32:58into EV charger-type spaces in the future

33:01if demand justifies it.

33:05So it's certainly something that can be retrofitted

33:08rather than tearing up a certain parking structure.

33:12It would be easier to retrofit

33:13those surface parking spaces in the future.

33:15So there is some ability to expand on that

33:18with the demand that warrants it.

33:21Okay, great, thank you.

33:22So through you, Mayor Guthrie,

33:23my other question is about the bike parking rate.

33:26What's the bike parking rate in phase one right now?

33:30The bike parking rate in phase one,

33:32if I recall, the structured or the secure bike parking

33:35was in the neighborhood of 30 spaces inside the building

33:38and then there were spaces outside the building

33:40that were covered, but they were so around 30 spaces

33:46for 164 units in the first phase.

33:49The rate in the second phase will be substantially higher.

33:54So there will be an ability for,

33:56if there's bike users in the first phase

33:59who want a space, a secure space,

34:02and don't have one in that building,

34:04there'd be an opportunity to secure it in the second phase.

34:07Okay, so through you, Mayor Guthrie,

34:10just to, so I understand how the bike parking is gonna work,

34:13you want bike parking rate of 0.57 spaces per unit.

34:18So that's like half a bike per unit.

34:23Well, I'm just thinking if the assumption is

34:25that people won't drive

34:27because they can transit or bike to the university,

34:30do you have sufficient bike parking?

34:33And I think it's too, well, in the Alma currently,

34:36it's two people per room, right?

34:39In the new second phase,

34:41there'll be a lot of single person occupant units.

34:44Okay, so again, I'm just wondering whether

34:46that 0.57 bike space is per unit is sufficient overall,

34:52right, because you would only have one bike per two units.

34:59It's a fair comment, and that's something

35:00that we can take away and consider.

35:03I think it's based somewhat on the demand of phase one,

35:07and perhaps that was influenced by the supply,

35:09and that's something that we can take away

35:10and see if there's an opportunity to augment that number.

35:15Thank you, so through you, Mayor Guthrie,

35:16just two more questions.

35:19You're looking for, I'm just trying to understand

35:21the way that the common amenity space

35:24is presented in the report.

35:26So it says common amenity space of 6.8 square meters per unit

35:31is what's required, and then it says,

35:37whereas the two zone requires 1,300 square meters

35:41for the property.

35:43So I just can't compare the square meter per unit

35:48to the request for the square meters for the property.

35:54So what's the shortfall?

35:57So thank you for the opportunity to answer that.

35:59The site-specific zoning that was passed

36:02for the development of the lands,

36:06which enabled the first phase,

36:08applied a 1,300 square meter amenity area calculation

36:11to the lands.

36:13So a strict reading of the bylaw would say

36:15the lands require 1,300 square meters of amenity area.

36:20The development itself, the combination of phase one and two

36:23is providing almost three times that amount.

36:26So the request technically is to amend

36:30the site-specific zoning, which requires 1,300

36:33to make it higher than 1,300.

36:37Okay, well, I'm happy with that.

36:39So just last two, sorry, Mayor Guthrie,

36:43I just not get an extra one there.

36:45I just wanna confirm that these buildings,

36:48they're not administered by the university, correct?

36:50You have a land lease, but you're a private company,

36:53privately administered, not through the university's,

36:56a lot of re-system or anything like that, is that correct?

36:58That's correct.

37:00The forum has a land lease with the University of Guelph.

37:04So forum would build and operate and manage the building

37:06as they have the first phase.

37:08But through that arrangement and that agreement,

37:11the units have to be made available to students

37:13at the University of Guelph.

37:15Okay.

37:16All right, and then my last question is,

37:17what's your timeline?

37:20Well, certainly we're anxious to proceed.

37:24Obviously there are other approvals,

37:27including Council's approval of the planning instruments,

37:30and then following those approvals, full speed ahead.

37:34Okay, thank you.

37:38I guess I just have one question,

37:39and then either you're all done,

37:41is the angular plane,

37:46is that a requirement in our zoning

37:47or is that a you thing doing that?

37:49Because there's a lot of talk about

37:51how angular planes are, they take away units.

37:57That's what they do, really.

37:58So I'm just wondering about why the angular plane,

38:01is that a mess thing or is that just a design feature

38:03on your end?

38:05Well, it is a you thing in the fact

38:08that it is in the zoning bylaw,

38:09if you have an institutional property it applies.

38:13So there's one corner of the site,

38:15which happens to be the lowest part of the site,

38:17that abuts an institutional property,

38:19so it applies that regulation.

38:21Yeah, so we do need relief from that regulation

38:24for that one piece of the property.

38:27Okay, okay.

38:30That's an us thing then.

38:31We'll leave it to us to discuss another time.

38:35Thank you very much.

38:36Seeing nothing further, we appreciate it.

38:40Council, it is back to, no, it is not yet back to us.

38:43I forgot, I gotta give three to four minutes or so

38:47to see if anyone wants to call in on this.

38:49Does anyone else in the audience

38:50need to speak their mind on this issue, give opinion?

38:54No?

38:56So I will go to the phones, I will yell out the number here.

39:00I remember the 519837 part, there it is, 5603.

39:05519837, 5603.

39:10We'll just give a three to five minute break

39:12and we'll see if anyone wants to give their opinion on this.

39:15Thank you.

41:48Okay, I'm gonna call the meeting back to order.

41:53And there is nobody in the building

41:56that wishes to talk about this,

41:58and there's no one on the phone that wants to talk about this.

42:05All those neighbors on the hand line

42:07don't have an opinion, I guess.

42:08All right.

42:12I've been told that Councillor Boussatile

42:15would be happy to move receipt

42:17and Councillor Richardson would be happy to second that.

42:21So it's at least tabled.

42:22And I'm gonna start with any questions

42:25to our staff with Councillor Boussatile, please.

42:29Thank you.

42:30To the staff, just very curious why in the motion,

42:34it explicitly says geared to students.

42:37I was wondering, is there a planning category for students

42:40and why the motion says that?

42:43While I respect that there is a contractual arrangement

42:46between the university and the developer,

42:49I'm just curious why it's in our motion.

42:55Through the mayor to the councillor,

42:58that is the way they applied.

43:00And since you are correct,

43:01this is geared towards the University of Guelph,

43:05there is a site-specific definition

43:07that came out of phase one with regards to,

43:11I believe it was residential suite,

43:12so it was very specific for the site,

43:15which was for students and they were,

43:19didn't have their own kitchen facilities

43:22or anything like that.

43:23So it was more to say that it's the same type of unit type.

43:27It's not technically an apartment

43:29with like own kitchen facilities and everything like that.

43:31It's specific for the unit type, it's geared to students.

43:34We don't people's own,

43:35but the site itself is geared to students

43:39with the lease between Forum and the University

43:46for renting to students.

43:47So that's why it's specific in the recommendation.

43:50Thank you, just a follow-up through the mayor.

43:53I understand the residential suites

43:55and I just don't understand the geared to students.

43:58Are they entwined or is it residential?

44:01I know we had a long discussion about this at the time,

44:04residential suites, I understand,

44:06but it could be congregate seniors living,

44:08it could be something, is that a definition,

44:11residential suites?

44:13And I guess I'm feeling geared to students,

44:16I'm not sure if that needs to be there or if it's combined.

44:21Through the mayor, geared to students

44:22is because it is geared to students,

44:25they have an obligation to lease

44:28to the University of Guelph students.

44:32Okay, thank you.

44:34Thank you, Ororak, please.

44:36Thank you, Marigha, three through you,

44:37along the same vein.

44:42So an apartment building wouldn't be able to say

44:45they're only leasing to a certain group of people, right?

44:49So how are they constrained to only renting to U of G students?

44:55So they wouldn't rent to Conestoga students,

44:56they wouldn't rent to students who are commuting in somewhere else?

45:02How does that work?

45:05We can provide more detail in the final decision report,

45:09but I think the applicant, as part of his presentation,

45:12did explain that there's a long-term lease with Forum

45:16and the University,

45:17because it is technically University-owned lands,

45:19University of Guelph-owned lands.

45:22So I believe they are required to specifically lease

45:27those lands to the University of Guelph students,

45:30but we can provide some clarity in our decision report,

45:33and I'll follow up with the applicant

45:35just to get some appropriate wording.

45:37Three, Marigha, thank you.

45:38I think that is really important,

45:41because we had another proponent come

45:45and ask for the name of the zoning,

45:49to be private, post-secondary residential.

45:56Council did not move forward with that,

46:00and the reason it's important

46:01is there are significant financial implications.

46:04So when I go to the financial implications paragraph

46:10for phase one of this project,

46:12there's a submission to request an exemption

46:14for property taxation on that part of the building.

46:18Now I understand that's working its way through.

46:21So our report tonight for phase two says,

46:27we will basically, we will bring you the financials.

46:30Its financial implications will be reported

46:32in the future staff recommendation report to council.

46:36So I don't see a similar paragraph in this report,

46:40so I will be looking for it in the next report,

46:43and I think it's critically important

46:45that we understand it's a private company

46:48that's going to, yes, build student rentals,

46:50which we desperately need, which is great,

46:53but it's a private company.

46:54This is not the university funded with taxpayers' dollars

46:58that is requiring this type of exemption.

47:00So just through you, Marigha, through your staff,

47:03I'll be looking for that financial implications paragraph

47:06when the decision report comes.

47:10Thank you, is there any other questions?

47:13No?

47:14All right, any quick comments

47:15before I call the vote on just receiving?

47:18No?

47:20Okay, I will call the vote then to receive.

47:24Is there anyone against?

47:27Nobody, so that's unanimous in receiving.

47:30Wishing you all the best.

47:31Thank you very much, and working with staff

47:33and seeing when this comes back.

47:39I have bylaws, and they are bylaws 2024,

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