Committee of the Whole · July 08, 2025 · Item 15.1
A one-time grant of $600,000 be approved for 2027 as financial investment towards Guelph Storm Limited, contingent on a successful bid in securing the 2027 Memorial Cup in Guelph. That a commitment of up to $100,000 of in-kind…
Main motion under the agenda item Guelph Storm 2027 Memorial Cup Bid - 2025-320
Carried (7 to 3)
7 in favour, 3 against
What was voted on
The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.
That a one-time grant of $600,000 be approved for 2027 as financial investment towards Guelph Storm Limited, contingent on a successful bid in securing the 2027 Memorial Cup in Guelph. That a commitment of up to $100,000 of in-kind fees at Sleeman Centre associated with facility ice rental, licensing fees, and facility staff be approved for 2027, contingent on a successful bid in securing the 2027 Memorial Cup in Guelph. That the one-time grant of $600,000 and the in-kind commitment of up to $100,000 in facility costs for Sleeman Centre be funded from the Municipal Accommodation Tax Reserve (184) in 2027, if the Guelph Storm bid is successful for the 2027 Memorial Cup. That the Chief Administrative Office be directed to include a letter in the bid package confirming the 2027 financial investment and in-kind commitment at Sleeman Centre. That the Chief Administrative Officer be directed to formalize and execute an agreement, to the satisfaction of the City Solicitor, with Guelph Storm Limited that includes the particulars noted above and as outlined within the staff report entitled Guelph Storm 2027 Memorial Cup Bid, dated July 8, 2025.
Moved by Mayor Guthrie, seconded by Councillor Busuttil.
How the room voted
In favour (7)
- Billings
- Busuttil
- Chew
- Gibson
- Goller
- Guthrie
- Richardson
Against (3)
- Allt
- Caron
- Caton
What was said
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6:20:09With that, we have one resolution before us. No staff report. The resolutions up there are in
6:20:15five parts for the Guelph 2027 Memorial Cup bid. And Mr. Clerk, I believe that you would like me
6:20:23to read these. Is that correct? I shall read them. Number one, that a one-time grant of $600,000
6:20:29be approved for 2027 as a financial investment towards Guelph Storm Limited contingent upon
6:20:36a successful bid in securing the 2027 Memorial Cup in Guelph. Number two, that a commitment of up
6:20:44to $100,000 of in-kind fees at Sleeman Centre associated with facility ice rental licensing
6:20:51fees and facility staff be approved for 2027 contingent on a successful bid in securing
6:20:59the 2027 Memorial Cup in Guelph. Number three, that the one-time grant of $600,000 and the
6:21:06in-kind commitment of up to $100,000 in facility costs for the Sleeman Centre be funded from the
6:21:13Municipal Accommodation Tax Reserve or MAT in 2027 if the Guelph Storm bid is successful for the
6:21:212027 Memorial Cup. Number four, that the Chief Administrative Officer be directed to include
6:21:27a letter in the bid package confirming the 2027 financial investment and in-kind commitment at
6:21:35Sleeman Centre. Number five, that the Chief Administrative Officer be directed to formalize
6:21:41and execute an agreement to the satisfaction of the city solicitor with Guelph Storm Limited
6:21:47that includes the particulars noted above and is outlined within the staff report entitled Guelph
6:21:53Storm 27 Memorial Cup bid dated July 8th 2025 and with that I know Mayor Guthrie would like to speak
6:22:01to this and move it and I believe Councillor Boussateel will second it for you. Mayor Guthrie.
6:22:07Thank you Chair and through you yes I'm happy to move this and I do like how it's come together
6:22:14including where the funding would come from so that helps I believe that this is a wonderful
6:22:20opportunity that we shouldn't pass up and I hope that we are successful in this. I've been to a
6:22:27couple of these one here and one in what you know years ago and one in another city and I mean they
6:22:33are a huge boom to the to the city and I feel like it would be a great opportunity for the Guelph
6:22:41Storm and for our entire city so I save all the best in the bid and will be rooting for
6:22:49everybody and I'm hoping that my colleagues do support it and thank you Councillor Boussateel
6:22:54for seconding I'll leave it at that thank you. Thank you Mayor Guthrie because we don't have
6:22:59a staff report I'm going to have to rely upon questions from council I have one from Councillor
6:23:05Gowler. Thank you and through you Chair I'll do staff just a confirmation. Oh we do yes oh I'm
6:23:14sorry let's see you on that. The commitment that we're making today would there be any
6:23:19financial cost to the city until we know whether we're successful or not in the bid?
6:23:25Through the chair no there would not only a financial commitment or the in-kind commitment
6:23:29if they were successful in the bid maybe a little bit of time from CAO Baker and signing a letter
6:23:35for us but okay thank you thank you thank you and Councillor Kate. Thank you through you Chair
6:23:43Alt. So to confirm so that $100,000 is recoverable? Through the chair no the ask from the Gulf Storm
6:23:55is that they would not pay up to a hundred thousand of rental fees licensing fees or facility staff
6:24:02anything above and beyond then would be at their cost per the rates and fees.
6:24:07Okay so even if they don't win the bid we're still out the 100,000.
6:24:12Through the chair no we are not because we will not have incurred those costs nor would
6:24:16they be rental for it so that also would only be incurred if they were successful in the bid.
6:24:22Okay thank you for that clarification.
6:24:26Councillor Billings had brought this up earlier with our downtown construction and the timeline
6:24:33for this how much overlap is there? Through the chair I think I can explain by saying that the
6:24:44event is primarily or generally in May so in May of 2027 and for 10 days there's some stuff on either
6:24:54side with teams coming into town and any sort of cleanup but no more than a week of events in and
6:25:02around or at the Sleeman Center primarily. Okay and how can you remind me how many hotel
6:25:14rooms they require for this bid to be successful? Through the chair the bid
6:25:22package or the current bid package talks about just over 3,500 room nights over 12 nights but
6:25:30also includes six unique hotels so there would be some hotels that are utilized outside of Guelph.
6:25:40Okay and how many projects in the past I know the MAT tax is pretty new.
6:25:48How many different projects have we been able to support with it compared to
6:25:52doing it as one big bid? Through the chair yeah you're right it is new we have had one bid which
6:26:04was the the curling event that took place this year and that would have been one of the the
6:26:09largest ones that we funded through the municipal accommodation tax. Okay I'm just trying to think
6:26:16of if we do this one how many other ones will not be able to get funding what is the repercussion
6:26:23of only choosing one big project? Through the chair can't really quantify the number because
6:26:34we simply don't know what those are but as explained in the report this would deplete the
6:26:40reserve until 2030 when we would be able to start building it back up again so between
6:26:47kind of now and 2030 there wouldn't be funding for any of these other kind of one-off larger
6:26:54events that came to the city. And when would we know if the bid is successful? Through the chair
6:27:03later this year in 2025 submissions will be happening early in the fall and the Canadian
6:27:08Hockey League makes their decision pretty quick. Thank you very much. Thank you very much
6:27:14Councillor Caitlin are there any other questions on this particular issue? Councillor Billings
6:27:24and Councillor Ciarán. To you Mr Chair with respect to the reserve one of the projects is the
6:27:34wayfinding one so I was just wondering could we not pause that project or reduce the the amount of
6:27:43that project so that we wouldn't end up in a sort of a negative or deficit position with respect to
6:27:50the reserve? Through the chair that project well it's currently underway the strategy itself the
6:28:01next step would be an implementation feature of that which is something that we were going to bring
6:28:05forward for a future council decision so there is some opportunity to pause the implementation
6:28:14of that strategy. Okay I wrote it down somewhere it's in how much was it for the implementation
6:28:23of the wayfinding project? Through the chair I believe it was approximately $300,000.
6:28:29Right so so we could pause that if we if council wanted to.
6:28:37That's correct. Okay thanks. Councillor Ciarán. Yeah a lot of my questions have been addressed
6:28:46I want to go back to the hotel rooms do we know what percentage of hotel rooms that would be
6:28:51required for this size of event would be outside of the city of Guelph because if we are if we're
6:29:00going into a regional partnership I'd like to see the other municipalities who would benefit
6:29:05from the Memorial Cup also commit to funding this event if they are also beneficiaries.
6:29:16Through the chair in the report we gave a kind of a brief high-level view of the
6:29:23room night stays so typically at this time of year we have 70 occupancy so with the Memorial Cup
6:29:32coming to Guelph potentially that would probably bring us up to 100 percent. It would
6:29:39displace those visitors that would have already been coming that 70 normal occupancy but we'd see
6:29:45a potential of an additional I think it's $24,000 in municipal accommodation tax revenue
6:29:53recognizing that we split half of that with the Guelph Chamber of Commerce so we'd see an additional
6:29:58$12,000 to our MAT reserve fund because of that increase in stays so you're correct I don't know
6:30:07what other hotels I'm imagining that they'd be down the 401 in Cambridge would be benefiting from that
6:30:14and I don't know what conversations the Guelph Storm has had with any of those hoteliers or the
6:30:22Waterloo Region Tourism Organization around funding if any. You don't know what percentage of the
6:30:27total required bed nights would be accommodated outside of Guelph. Councillor Corone I believe
6:30:32that DCIO clock wishes to weigh in on this as well. Through the chair I just want to provide the
6:30:38information it is in the report and it is public that we do understand the Kitchener Rangers are
6:30:43bidding as well and so I just want to manage expectations that I don't know that we would
6:30:49certainly be in a position because there is going to be that competing bid while we recognize that
6:30:54those hotel rooms if Guelph was successful would come from the Waterloo Region we do I just wanted
6:30:59to make sure that we were clear that is our understanding that Kitchener Rangers has publicly
6:31:04said that they are bidding. Okay so if we use up all of our MAT if we commit to this and the
6:31:10MAT tax is then committed to the year 2030 how long typically if another big event comes to Guelph
6:31:19given that this is our bicentennial year I expect that our our hotels are going to be filled
6:31:25there we're going to have other potential events happening throughout the city that are going to
6:31:29attract more of a homecoming kind of events if we commit all of our MAT tax and we lose the way
6:31:39finding project or other types of events that are related to that 2027 year.
6:31:47Just a question is if an event were to come up how how long typically in advance would we know it
6:31:52say if next week we get a big event that wants to come to Guelph in 2027 another you know curling
6:31:58event or other sporting event or major concert series we wouldn't know that yet right that's
6:32:06it's usually a year or two in advance? Through the chair I would say major sporting events are
6:32:12happening three four five years out at least in those preliminary conversations but there absolutely
6:32:17could be other sort of concert series or other larger tourism draws that maybe are thinking
6:32:24about things and haven't approached us yet calendars for bookings aren't certainly officially open
6:32:30at this point so a little bit of a hybrid other than we're hoping to fill the entire year the
6:32:37calendar year in 2027 and this is then on the outside two weeks of that process but yes does
6:32:46utilize that funding leverage. Yeah and given the previous agenda item would we be making it
6:32:53clear in our bid that our downtown is ripped up during this event? Through the chair it would
6:32:59certainly be my recommendation that the storm consider including risks and obstacles that
6:33:04could occur as a part of the event and what that mitigation strategy is. Yeah can we can we
6:33:10require it and the only reason I'm asking it in that way is that you know for successful and
6:33:16and the event does come here and we do have a downtown this is in progress it doesn't look
6:33:24good on the city of Guelph that that our reputation may not be enhanced by that as a tourism draw
6:33:31people have a negative experience so can we require that to be disclosed in any bid documents?
6:33:38Do you see your clock push? Through the chair Ms. Evans and I have had this conversation with the
6:33:43Guelph storm already in terms of their awareness it's their bid and so what they submit in the bid
6:33:50is the Guelph storms to provide. I do also want to just highlight though that as we are looking to
6:33:55mitigate construction impacts we also want to encourage people to come to our downtown core
6:34:00and so this is an opportunity to try to encourage people to come into the downtown core despite
6:34:05the construction and still eat in our restaurants and still participate in what downtown Guelph has
6:34:10to offer so we certainly have been up front with the storm they're aware of it as Ms. Evans says
6:34:16we've talked and will continue talking to them about mitigation strategies but we want to make
6:34:21sure that we are also encouraging people to come downtown for whatever large-scale events
6:34:27whether it's the bicentennial or a potential memorial cup downtown Guelph is still going
6:34:31to be open for business through 2027. Okay Mr. Chair are you hearing comments now or just questions?
6:34:40If there are no further questions I shall take comments. So I uh you know I can
6:34:48get them from you first. Okay since I have the floor I concur that I you know I come from a
6:34:54hockey family and long history of Hall of Famers and the and I I would love to see the memorial cup
6:35:01in Guelph. I am hesitant for for three reasons number one it's using our entire MAT tax and
6:35:08we've let no other organizations you know bid on on using the MAT tax. I think there might be a
6:35:16possibility of a whole other range of events that could be hosted in Guelph with the use of that tax
6:35:21and we really haven't had a public open process for others to be able to access it. My second
6:35:26concern is the downtown construction that's a big one for me so I'm not quite I'm kind of sitting
6:35:34on the fence right now but I'll I'll hear from my colleagues and then I'll cast my vote when the
6:35:38time comes but I I do have some serious concerns about making that kind of commitment.
6:35:44Councillor Caron I'm just going to seek a clarification. You stated that there was
6:35:49no other organization that had used the MAT tax and just going to staff I'm wondering
6:35:54Oh not that hadn't used it. No not that hasn't used it yet that has an opportunity to use it
6:36:00between between now and 2030. Oh okay if we use the rest of our MAT tax reserve for this event
6:36:08there won't be an opportunity for others. Okay I understand the Grand Slam of Curling I believe
6:36:14did use about 25,000 that's really the only concern. Are there other closing comments? Seeing none I
6:36:23will make some closing comments of I as a chair I'm reluctant to ask questions from the chair but
6:36:29on this I will make a couple of comments and it really relates to the fact that Guelph Storm is
6:36:35not here today and if I was not in the chair I would ask them many questions. If this is to be
6:36:41approved tonight it will come back at the end of the month and I would hope that we would have
6:36:47representatives from the Guelph Storm here to answer some of the questions I think that we have had
6:36:53some good questions asked by Councillor Caron and others that that certainly do deserve to be
6:36:59answered. If it's only symbolic I will vote against this tonight because I'm reasonably certain
6:37:05that this will be approved tonight knowing that it will come back at the end of the month and with
6:37:11that I'll leave my comments and I will go to the vote. So moving to the vote is there anybody opposed?
6:37:24I see three opposed. The motion carries. I want to thank Mayor Guthrie for bringing it forward.
6:37:33I look forward to the end of the month and hopefully with the Guelph Storm management here to
6:37:37address some concerns and I can do adjournment. There are no service area chair nor staff
6:37:45announcements at this point. I would look to someone to move adjournment. I'm going to ask
6:37:49Mayor Guthrie. I don't think he does it very often so I'm going to go to Mayor Guthrie and
6:37:54Councillor Busuttil. Is there any objection to adjournment? Thank you very much and I would
6:38:00declare that Guelph City Council are the winners of the Memorial Cup bidding.
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