Committee of the Whole · June 06, 2023 · Item 7.4
Report “Smart Cities Update – Our Food Future and Circular Opportunity Launchpad” dated June 6, 2023…
Main motion under the agenda item Smart Cities Update – Our Food Future and Circular Opportunity Launchpad, 2023-194
Carried (12 to 0)
12 in favour, 0 against — unanimous
What was voted on
The motion in its exact words, as recorded in the minutes.
That the report “Smart Cities Update – Our Food Future and Circular Opportunity Launchpad” dated June 6, 2023, be received. That the City encourages Wellington-Dufferin-Guelph Public Health to continue their work in food security and food access and to incorporate the lessons learned from Our Food Future in their ongoing health promotion work in the community.
Moved by Councillor Busuttil, seconded by Councillor Richardson.
How the room voted
In favour (12)
- Billings
- Busuttil
- Caron
- Caton
- Chew
- Downer
- Gibson
- Goller
- Guthrie
- Klassen
- O'Rourke
- Richardson
Who spoke to it
Council recessed (5:18 p.m.) Council reconvened (5:50 p.m.) David Messer, Executive Director, Smart Cities Office, gave an update on where the Smart Cities is on their goals. The following delegates spoke: Julia Grady Barb McPhee Kate Vestula
What council was given
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- Smart Cities Update – Our Food Future and Circular Opportunity Innovation Launchpad - 2023-194.pdf
Reports on winding down the City's Smart Cities Office and its two projects, Our Food Future and the Circular Opportunity Innovation Launchpad, which were funded mainly by $15 million in federal grants plus about $1 million from partners. Staff say targets will be met or exceeded by December 2023, two years early, after which the office closes, with reporting and audit work continuing through 2024. Council is also asked to encourage public health to carry on food security work.
- 20230606_SCO Council Update final.pdf
- Correspondence - Jude Keefe.pdf
- Correspondence - Toward Common Ground.pdf
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What was said
9,663 words from the meeting recording, transcribed automatically. Times are from the start of the recording.
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4:25:24Okay, everyone, this is the one to two minute warning.
4:26:29Okay, everyone, I'm going to call the meeting back to order.
4:26:31We do have quorum.
4:26:32So thank you so much for that little break.
4:26:36I think necessary just to continue on
4:26:38with the agenda in front of us here.
4:26:41And that is the smart cities update our food future
4:26:46and the circular opportunity launch pad.
4:26:49We're going to have a presentation from David Messer,
4:26:51the executive director of the smart cities office.
4:26:54And we've got three delegations after that.
4:26:58And then it'll be back to us.
4:26:59So thank you so much for coming to do the presentation today.
4:27:03David, welcome to you.
4:27:06And I will turn it over to you now.
4:27:13Am I on now?
4:27:14All right.
4:27:15Thank you again, Mayor Guthrie and members of council.
4:27:18It's a pleasure to be here again.
4:27:20As you may recall from our update in December,
4:27:23we informed the committee that smart cities core funding
4:27:26from infrastructure Canada was set to be fully expended
4:27:29by December.
4:27:30We committed at that time to come back today
4:27:32to tell you about next steps for smart cities
4:27:35after December, 2023.
4:27:38But before we go into that,
4:27:40I want to spend a brief moment discussing where smart,
4:27:42what smart cities was tasked to do
4:27:45and what we have achieved.
4:27:46In 2019, we received city and county council direction
4:27:50to work towards these goals by 2025.
4:27:53So a 50% increase in access to affordable nutritious food,
4:27:56supporting 50 new circular economy, business and collaborations
4:28:00and increasing the economic benefits
4:28:02by unlocking the value of waste all by 2025.
4:28:06I'm very happy to report that by December, 2023,
4:28:10all requirements from the original smart cities vision
4:28:13will be achieved and in most cases exceeded.
4:28:16We're two years ahead of schedule.
4:28:18As a community, we set very ambitious goals
4:28:20and we've done what we said we would do.
4:28:24Back in February, I showed you a slide like this.
4:28:26These numbers are a little updated,
4:28:29but I think we have some pretty impressive KPIs,
4:28:32but I'd love to run through some of the impacts
4:28:35of this program beyond just the numbers.
4:28:38So thinking about what we've done in the community,
4:28:41we can point to almost 8,000 residents reporting
4:28:44increased access to affordable nutritious food.
4:28:47And with partners, we've grown that initial $10 million
4:28:50to bring in an additional $17 million
4:28:53in project funding to this region.
4:28:55We've supported over 50 community food projects,
4:28:58many of which are amazing social enterprises
4:29:00like Guelph CHC's Grocers from the Seed program
4:29:04and Community Food from the Guelph Neighborhood Support
4:29:07Coalition, both of which are fighting food waste
4:29:10and delivering self-sustaining benefits to community members
4:29:13that are experiencing food insecurity.
4:29:15We've also created new forums to discuss the resiliency
4:29:18of our local food sector and we're helping more
4:29:20healthcare providers use food as medicine.
4:29:25On the business side, we started with a goal
4:29:27of supporting 50 businesses.
4:29:28And at this point, we have worked with over 300,
4:29:32helping them join the circular economy
4:29:34and create new circular products.
4:29:36As of last month, the COIL program has supported
4:29:38131 circular economy jobs.
4:29:42And we've helped commercialize over 80 circular products
4:29:44and services.
4:29:46Some of the businesses we started supporting
4:29:47with a micro grant in 2020 now have multimillion dollar
4:29:51valuations in just a few short years.
4:29:53Our COIL program really filled a unique gap
4:29:56in the innovation landscape by helping businesses
4:29:58turn waste into an economic value
4:30:01and start driving approaches that we think will make
4:30:03circular transformation in the next decade,
4:30:05what digital transformation was in the last decade.
4:30:09Smart cities has also been about systems change
4:30:13and understanding the systems we work with
4:30:16and trying to find new ways to deliver more resources
4:30:19or more value from the resources we take from the earth.
4:30:23And we've done this by developing unique data
4:30:25and technology models, including the first in Canada
4:30:28food flow study, which we won the award for
4:30:31back in February.
4:30:33We've also created pilots with partners
4:30:35to fill new systems gaps, like our construction
4:30:38small site source separation pilot,
4:30:41which is now helping divert waste
4:30:42from three new housing build sites in East Guelph,
4:30:44as well as now at the farmer's market
4:30:46with a sign explaining some of what that does.
4:30:49This spring, we're hoping to expand that pilot
4:30:52to 40 more sites across Guelph and Wellington County.
4:30:55And just on this, we have some new data
4:30:57from a builder in Ontario that shows that
4:31:00for every five houses they build,
4:31:02they waste enough wood to build a sixth house.
4:31:06If you think that Ontario is on track now
4:31:07to build 1.5 million new homes,
4:31:09that's potentially 300,000 homes worth of wood
4:31:13ending up in landfill,
4:31:14mostly because it's all going in one dumpster.
4:31:17This pilot is the only place that we found inside Canada,
4:31:20aside from one pilot in, or one program in Vancouver
4:31:24that is trying to separate wood and drywall
4:31:27and other things at these construction sites.
4:31:29It really shows some of the potential power
4:31:32that these interventions had to take that waste wood
4:31:35and turn it into whole new industries.
4:31:41And for many of us, the real goal of this work
4:31:43was climate action.
4:31:45And we've made big strides here too.
4:31:46We're helping divert and upcycle thousands of tons
4:31:49of food waste and helping manufacturers and food producers
4:31:52figure out new sustainable practices
4:31:54that'll support their future growth in a climate safe world.
4:31:58Our current tally for what we've been able to prevent
4:32:00is almost 167,000 tons of greenhouse gas emissions,
4:32:04which is the equivalent of taking 36,300 cars
4:32:07off the road for a year.
4:32:11And while this has been a primarily place-based project,
4:32:14we have received significant international attention
4:32:17for what we're doing here as a region.
4:32:21We have received wards from around the world.
4:32:25And a couple of weeks ago, we worked with FCM
4:32:28to release a guide for municipalities across Canada
4:32:31on how to catalyze a circular economy in your community.
4:32:35They're along with this, they're looking at creating
4:32:37a new stream of the Green Municipal Fund
4:32:40thinking about circular food systems.
4:32:42It's not finalized yet, but I think that shows
4:32:45a lot of the impact some of this work has had.
4:32:47The Ellen MacArthur Foundation,
4:32:49a leading global circular economy think tank,
4:32:51recently invited us to join an elite club
4:32:53of 50 global cities that meet bi-monthly
4:32:56that are leading on the circular economy.
4:32:59We're one of only three cities in Canada
4:33:00invited to join this group.
4:33:02And last week, I spoke at an event
4:33:04called Circular Economy Hotspot.
4:33:06This is an event series started by the Dutch government
4:33:08in 2016.
4:33:10Initially, the event rotated between large European cities.
4:33:14This year, along with Dublin,
4:33:15they began holding events in Santiago and Lagos.
4:33:19In 2024, the organizing committee was looking to plan
4:33:24their first ever hotspot event in North America.
4:33:27And they could have gone anywhere,
4:33:30but I'm very happy to announce that in June 2024,
4:33:33the organizing committee selected Guelph Wellington
4:33:35as the host location for the first North American
4:33:38Circular Hotspot Conference.
4:33:41This event will bring 500 leaders from around the world
4:33:43to our region to share learnings
4:33:46and tour some of the amazing things our collaborators
4:33:48and local businesses are doing in the circular economy.
4:33:52Bringing this event here was a joint push
4:33:53between city solid waste, economic development
4:33:56and tourism and smart cities.
4:33:58And I think it's a huge recognition of the work done
4:34:00across this region over the past few years
4:34:03that really stands out at a global level.
4:34:06And a quick note that all of this is only possible
4:34:09because of our amazing community collaborators
4:34:11and delivery partners.
4:34:12The smart cities team gets lots of sunlight
4:34:15and we have been incredibly fortunate
4:34:17that this has been our full-time jobs.
4:34:19However, for most of the organizations on the screen
4:34:22contributed far more hours to this project
4:34:24than they were ever compensated for.
4:34:26We relied on these collaborators to bring their research,
4:34:28insights and ideas to the table
4:34:31and then design and deliver the programs
4:34:33and interventions that have been essential
4:34:35to meet that 50, 50, 50 target.
4:34:37From the start of the program through the pandemic to now,
4:34:40they've attended monthly meetings, workshops,
4:34:42participating in review committees,
4:34:44volunteering thousands of hours
4:34:46towards this shared community vision.
4:34:48So from the whole smart city team,
4:34:50I honestly can't thank our community collaborators enough
4:34:53or give them enough credit
4:34:55for the success of this project.
4:34:59So looking forward, as I mentioned,
4:35:03our current funding will be expended by December 2023.
4:35:07So I wanted to run through what happens now
4:35:09and what we see as some of the legacy of smart cities.
4:35:14So with the conclusion of the federal grants,
4:35:16the smart cities office will be closing in December 2023.
4:35:20We're working now to transition programs
4:35:22where it makes sense to community collaborators,
4:35:25but where it doesn't, some programs will be wound down.
4:35:28We're still in the process of figuring out
4:35:29exactly where some of those sit.
4:35:32We're also developing a final report with lessons learned,
4:35:34which we will publish by December 2023.
4:35:38We are also going to be planning a celebration event
4:35:40in October, which all members of council, of course,
4:35:42will be invited to attend.
4:35:46In our February update, I mentioned how in the fall of 2022,
4:35:51we developed action plans for each of our core work streams.
4:35:56And over the past year, we've been,
4:35:58or the past six months, we've been working
4:35:59with our community collaborators
4:36:00to stand up governance around these plans.
4:36:03So hopefully that they can continue collaboration
4:36:06and work on the priorities we explored in food future
4:36:09over the next three to five years
4:36:11with community leadership.
4:36:13We're also working where it makes sense
4:36:14to pull in different city service areas
4:36:17to participate in some of these programs.
4:36:20I will also note that solid waste resource
4:36:22is playing a leadership role
4:36:24in the Waste as a Resource Action Plan,
4:36:26which is a proposed priority in the strategic plan
4:36:29subject to budget considerations.
4:36:34For the COIL program, which of course,
4:36:37is a circular economy business and innovation accelerator,
4:36:41this will continue through the shared leadership
4:36:43of Innovation Guelph and 10C.
4:36:46Innovation Guelph is currently in the process
4:36:48of being the lead for a Fed Dev application
4:36:51to receive additional funding for the next three years.
4:36:54The city and county will be supporting this application
4:36:56for the second phase of COIL
4:36:58and will be supporting future projects,
4:37:00including potentially pilots around circular procurements,
4:37:04infrastructure and rural innovation.
4:37:09I can also say that the smart cities legacy
4:37:12will be reflected in other communities
4:37:14that are building on our work.
4:37:16We're currently supporting the National Zero Waste Council
4:37:18and on an environment Canada funded project
4:37:21to replicate our circular food economy recipe
4:37:24in the Halifax Regional Municipality.
4:37:26Right now, they're building a food waste flow analysis
4:37:29exactly like we did using the same methodology
4:37:32three years ago here.
4:37:33And just last month, they convened over 100 stakeholders
4:37:36to develop a shared vision,
4:37:37just like Guelph Wellington was doing back in 2018.
4:37:41Vancouver Economic Commission and Halifax Partnership
4:37:43are also pursuing funding to launch COIL Atlantic
4:37:46and COIL Pacific, which we hope will build on the strategies
4:37:50and methodologies we've used here
4:37:52to support over 150 businesses.
4:37:55This national network we think will be a significant legacy
4:37:58that we hope will bring changes across the country
4:38:00in the coming decades to meet the climate crisis.
4:38:06And as a municipality, Guelph is also continuing leadership
4:38:10on the circular economy.
4:38:12Solid Waste Resources is presently developing
4:38:14a circular economy framework in alignment
4:38:16with the Solid Waste Management Master Plan.
4:38:18As proposed in the strategic plan, Solid Waste Resources
4:38:21is also looking at building on the collaborative
4:38:24innovation approaches by continuing
4:38:26the Zero Waste Economic Transformation Lab model
4:38:28that was developed through the Smart Cities Office,
4:38:31subject of course to budget considerations and approvals.
4:38:36With respect to our other core public sector collaborators,
4:38:40Wellington County will maintain its staff resources
4:38:43to support the amazing work that they've been doing
4:38:45on regenerative agriculture and rural circularity.
4:38:48And County Solid Waste will continue
4:38:50to advance the circular economy as well.
4:38:53On the public health side,
4:38:54they have been an amazing contributor
4:38:56as the driving force behind our nutritious food work stream.
4:39:00As they too return to their regular business,
4:39:02staff from the city is recommending council
4:39:04encourage public health to incorporate the lessons learned
4:39:07from our food future into their ongoing food access
4:39:10and health promotion activities.
4:39:14In closing, this has been an incredible project
4:39:17to be involved in.
4:39:18And everyone involved is very sad to see it ends.
4:39:21But I think we can all be incredibly proud
4:39:23of the work that was done, which met and in many cases
4:39:27far exceeded what we thought we could do
4:39:29as a community when this project began.
4:39:31Hopefully this will leave inspiration and legacy
4:39:34that'll move this region and Canada
4:39:35towards a more sustainable, equitable,
4:39:37and prosperous future.
4:39:39Thank you.
4:39:40Great, and thank you so much for the presentation
4:39:42and the overview of all the highlights
4:39:45of what was accomplished.
4:39:48Is there any questions at this time at all?
4:39:52I have, I know I have one, but councillor Downer,
4:39:54go ahead, you first.
4:39:56So I'm just,
4:40:00so I don't know whether this will be better
4:40:01after the delegations questions,
4:40:04but you, did you author the report?
4:40:07I did.
4:40:08Mr. Esson, okay.
4:40:10So, so I just, I just have a number of questions.
4:40:14Like, this seems to be, I guess that would be coming,
4:40:18more information would be coming in the final report.
4:40:21But first I want to say congratulations.
4:40:23This is pretty amazing.
4:40:25You're not aware, can I remember the excitement
4:40:26of the city when we were awarded this
4:40:29and we got ourselves on the global map.
4:40:31And so then, so that, that leads me to the question.
4:40:34Now we're dropping it type thing.
4:40:37I just wonder about, I'm wondering about the wisdom
4:40:41of putting this here, there, and everywhere,
4:40:45as opposed to the catalyst and leverage we had
4:40:50with the,
4:40:52the circular food economy office.
4:40:58So I sort of, it feels like, you know,
4:41:01we try to get away from siloing.
4:41:03And it feels like we've created a nice niche here.
4:41:06We've got the, you've been able to leverage
4:41:09all kinds of great things.
4:41:10And now we're going to go into little silos,
4:41:13which is not, maybe not, which we might lose
4:41:16a lot of the good lessons that we've learned.
4:41:18And one of the lessons may be that,
4:41:20collaborating together with community partners
4:41:24is the best way to go.
4:41:25So I'm just sort of, I'm just sort of thinking
4:41:27off the top of my head here around that.
4:41:28So I'm just, and you may not be in a position
4:41:31to answer that question, right?
4:41:33So I don't want to put you on a hot spot,
4:41:34but so when I hear that in the report,
4:41:37that it is possible that a scaled down elements
4:41:40of the programs could be extended
4:41:42through the multi-year budget at a lower cost.
4:41:45Like what would that, what would that look like?
4:41:46We haven't been offered any options here.
4:41:48All we've been said is that staff have decided
4:41:51this is going to be closed down
4:41:53and things are going to be moved out.
4:41:54So council hasn't had the opportunity
4:41:56to look at options or costing or anything really
4:41:59of what it would look like to do a scaled down effort here.
4:42:03And I just want to hear a bit more about that option.
4:42:06And if you have your, you know, thoughts about this.
4:42:08So I don't know, you may not be in a position.
4:42:09It may be a question for the, for the CAO.
4:42:15Well, if it, okay.
4:42:18I don't usually allow sort of staff and presentations
4:42:21to go back and forth, but I'll allow at this time.
4:42:25Go ahead.
4:42:26Well, through you, Mr. Mayor,
4:42:27and it might be something that we have to spend more time in
4:42:30than just sort of here.
4:42:31And then maybe it would be wise to move through the delegations
4:42:35and then you can spend time and some detail on the report
4:42:37and the presentation from Mr. Messer.
4:42:40Then we can answer lots of questions, I think.
4:42:43So that's what I said, Amanda.
4:42:44I wasn't sure it may be because it's, you know,
4:42:47Mr. Messer here is like a, it's like a staff
4:42:49and we usually hold the questions still later.
4:42:51And it may be better to hear the delegations first
4:42:53and then, and then maybe you could get back to me
4:42:56after we get to the questions.
4:42:58Cause I'm just curious about,
4:43:00about the move, the next steps on this project.
4:43:04Yeah, I think I'll even take the CAO
4:43:07and Councillor Downer's advice
4:43:09and I'll even save my question to after the delegations to,
4:43:12it just has to do with the jobs around the coil.
4:43:14So there's a little heads up, okay.
4:43:16All right, so thank you.
4:43:17We'll come back to you for sure.
4:43:19Okay. I'm sure there'll be some questions.
4:43:20So let's go to our delegations then.
4:43:23Julia's here.
4:43:25Yes, come on up.
4:43:28Julia Grady is here.
4:43:29And we're gonna have Barb and Fee on the phone.
4:43:32And then Kate Vestula, Kate, where's Kate?
4:43:36Kate, you're gonna be in the wings after that.
4:43:41Julia, thanks for coming.
4:43:42I'll start my timer whenever you start speaking.
4:43:45We have up to five minutes. Okay. Go for it.
4:43:47Awesome. Good afternoon, Mayor Guthrie,
4:43:49City Councilors, Guelph City staff
4:43:51and fellow members of the Guelph community.
4:43:54I'm Julia Grady and I'm the co-founder
4:43:55and executive director of TenC Shared Space,
4:43:58Guelph's social innovation lab.
4:44:00TenC is one of our future and coils delivery partners
4:44:04and also co-chairs,
4:44:05the business nutritious food work streams.
4:44:08Given the fact that the smart cities
4:44:09circular economy initiatives over the past four years
4:44:12have been so successful.
4:44:14I would like to advocate that we now take time
4:44:16to enable transition plan to knit in
4:44:18and strengthen this work across the city of Guelph
4:44:21and community partners moving forward.
4:44:23I'm also here to celebrate all of the work
4:44:25that has been done in the past.
4:44:28Your dinner this evening was brought to you
4:44:29by Community Food, I believe,
4:44:31a social enterprise that received funding
4:44:34through our Food Future.
4:44:35Launched just one year ago,
4:44:36Community Food has served over 18,000 meals
4:44:39and diverted eight tons of usable wasted food from landfill.
4:44:43Community Food is a chef led mobile food program
4:44:46that works within current food security networks
4:44:49to fill in the food system flaws
4:44:51that allow mass quantities of high quality foods
4:44:53to end up as landfill.
4:44:55Chef Yazzy produces nutritious gourmet meals,
4:44:59offered using an equitable and dignified model
4:45:01and provides jobs, educational opportunities
4:45:04and philanthropic catering.
4:45:06Community Food is just one of the hundreds of projects
4:45:09emerging from Guelph Wellington's
4:45:11Smart City's circular economy work.
4:45:14David Messer's presentation demonstrates
4:45:16the successes of our Food Future, Coil
4:45:19and all of the interconnected circular systems change work.
4:45:22The economic impacts are tangible.
4:45:25Over the past two years,
4:45:26Coil, a key project of the business work stream,
4:45:28received 260 applications from all across Southern Ontario.
4:45:33A total of 92 projects were funded,
4:45:35representing $60.7 million in revenues
4:45:39from the combined companies.
4:45:4112% of these are based in Guelph
4:45:44and all are businesses eager to invent
4:45:46and embed new circular practices.
4:45:49And at the beginning of this project,
4:45:50we were defining what the circular economy was.
4:45:53They're clearly our businesses that understand it now.
4:45:56One of the first and now leading projects is Friendly,
4:45:59our Canada's fastest growing reusable packaging solutions.
4:46:03Since being sparked through our Food Future in 2020,
4:46:06Friendly has cleaned and recirculated
4:46:09500,000 plastic containers.
4:46:11And did you know that each of those friendly blue containers
4:46:14is used an average of 100 times?
4:46:16And this has kept 29 tons of plastic waste out of landfills.
4:46:20Friendlyers founders, Jack and Kaylee,
4:46:22have also made Forbes 30 under 30 lists.
4:46:25They've received $500,000 in follow-on funding
4:46:28from FedDev, Southern Ontario.
4:46:30And most recently, Friendly are attracted $2.3 million
4:46:33in venture capital,
4:46:35enabling this made in Guelph business
4:46:37to expand across Canada.
4:46:39There is incredible momentum around this work here
4:46:43and as well as internationally.
4:46:45The city of Guelph signed onto the Milan Urban Food Policy
4:46:48pact with other cities from all over the world
4:46:50who are committed to making progress on the common goal
4:46:53of sustainable, inclusive and resilient food,
4:46:56urban food systems.
4:46:58City of Guelph has accepted many awards
4:47:00for its circular economy leadership.
4:47:02We've also been, as David noted,
4:47:04selected to host the Circular Economy Hotspot Conference,
4:47:07bringing 500 leaders from around the world
4:47:10to Guelph in the year of 2024.
4:47:12My question is simple.
4:47:14What will we be showcasing if this project has ended?
4:47:17Back in 2018, you asked us to participate
4:47:20in the Smart Cities Challenge to create our food future
4:47:24and the community responded with a resounding yes.
4:47:27You asked us to think and work like a network and we did.
4:47:32As a network with a mix of strong and nimble partners,
4:47:34we were successful in leveraging federal, provincial,
4:47:36private foundation, corporate and educational funding.
4:47:39This enabled over the $27 million in resources
4:47:43to flow into our region.
4:47:45Much of this would not have happened
4:47:46without our collective response to the core question,
4:47:49should the circular economy be at the heart of the future
4:47:52for the city of Guelph?
4:47:54The key in this collaboration was the Smart Cities Office
4:47:58and this team had provided us with visionary leadership
4:48:01and without them, these community outcomes
4:48:03would not have been possible.
4:48:04As partners, we would like to see continued municipal buy-in
4:48:08for circular food system work from both the city of Guelph
4:48:11and the county of Wellington.
4:48:13Our request today is that there be a process now
4:48:16to allow Smart City staff and community partners
4:48:18to work together to bring a transition plan forward
4:48:22for this fall for consideration
4:48:23within the city multi-year budget process.
4:48:26A circular food economy can achieve climate,
4:48:30economic, social and health benefits
4:48:31that will make Guelph an innovative, prosperous
4:48:34and healthy community.
4:48:35Thank you.
4:48:37Thank you so much.
4:48:38Any questions for this delegation at this time?
4:48:42Nope, I don't hear any, but thank you very much for coming.
4:48:45On the phone now is Barb McPhee and just wait to see Barb.
4:48:51It's Mayor Guthrie, can you hear me okay?
4:48:59I'll try one more time.
4:49:00Hey Barb, it's Mayor Guthrie, can you hear me okay?
4:49:04I can hear you great, yep.
4:49:06And you're coming through very clear as well.
4:49:08Thank you very much for joining us.
4:49:10And I'll start the timer for you.
4:49:13I have up to five minutes.
4:49:14I'll start the timer as soon as you start.
4:49:15You go right ahead.
4:49:17Thanks.
4:49:19Hey folks, Barb McPhee here.
4:49:21I am the manager of the North End Highways Market
4:49:23and I'm a lived experience peer advocate.
4:49:26I am here today to lend my support
4:49:28for the Smart Cities program.
4:49:30I am not here looking at the big picture.
4:49:32I am leaving that to all you professionals
4:49:35and smart city people.
4:49:36Here is the little story that made a huge impact.
4:49:40The North End Highways Market was lucky
4:49:41to be part of the CoLab project,
4:49:43which offered some community organizations
4:49:46opportunities to create and build on projects
4:49:49that would beneficial to the food security
4:49:52of their neighborhoods.
4:49:54Who would have thought $100,000
4:49:56would bring seven groups together
4:49:58to create a lasting bond and a way to distribute dollars
4:50:01not equally, but equibly.
4:50:04Each organization put through a proposal
4:50:06for the amount of money they would need
4:50:08to make their project successful
4:50:10and the outcome was amazing.
4:50:12There was actually one group who refused money
4:50:15but put forward the opportunity for space and places,
4:50:19especially kitchen space for cooking
4:50:21and garden space for growing.
4:50:23The North End Highways Market asked for 10,000,
4:50:26excuse me, which would cover the market cost
4:50:29of produce for seven weeks.
4:50:31$10,000 for the Silver Creek Community Market
4:50:34to cover 12 weeks of market cost of produce.
4:50:37And the North End Highways Market also requested $10,000
4:50:40to run a community builders program.
4:50:44The 30,000 was approved and there was so much support
4:50:47from the granting staff that helped to make
4:50:50everything go smoothly.
4:50:52The community builders program sponsored
4:50:54eight lived experience community members
4:50:56to take a six week course to help them become
4:50:59community leaders through the art of storytelling,
4:51:02through words and song.
4:51:04A community leader was hired to coordinate this project
4:51:08and each person was paid a living wage.
4:51:10Nails and snacks were covered,
4:51:12as well as home care and travel costs.
4:51:14The result of this program was way beyond
4:51:17anyone's expectation.
4:51:19Eight brilliant community leaders evolved
4:51:21with two of them becoming leaders of Hope House
4:51:24and North End Highways Market boards.
4:51:26Three of them becoming volunteers
4:51:29in the community organizations
4:51:31and others lending their leadership supports
4:51:33in the best ways they could.
4:51:35Then the Sparks Grant came along
4:51:37and the North End Highways Market was awarded $2,000
4:51:41to run an amazing grant program,
4:51:44granting program for eight participants.
4:51:47And we were able to hire one of the community builders
4:51:50graduates to coordinate and run this project.
4:51:53The original seven co-lab projects to this day meet
4:51:57and connect and share.
4:51:59I'm not sure how the big money works,
4:52:01but I think there can be lessons learned
4:52:04on how the big money can work best for all
4:52:06by using the little money ways and means.
4:52:09What's next is taking the little story
4:52:11with such a huge impact into consideration
4:52:14as to how we need to hold onto things that work
4:52:17such as the smart cities dollars and staffing supports
4:52:20and take some time to make them work better
4:52:23by listening to the community and focusing more
4:52:25on the little success stories
4:52:27that are helpful to build a great wealth people.
4:52:32Thank you.
4:52:35Thanks, Barb.
4:52:36Appreciate you joining us too.
4:52:38And let me see if there's any follow up for you.
4:52:40Any questions?
4:52:42Okay, not at this time.
4:52:43So thank you again for calling in.
4:52:47Thank you.
4:52:47All right, take care.
4:52:49And yep, Kate's coming down already.
4:52:52So thank you for timing.
4:52:59I just set my clock back here.
4:53:04There we go.
4:53:06Thank you.
4:53:07Take your time.
4:53:08Whenever you actually start,
4:53:09I'll start the clock for you, Kate.
4:53:10Go right ahead.
4:53:12Okay, thank you.
4:53:13Can you hear me okay?
4:53:15Okay.
4:53:16Good evening, Mayor, City Council,
4:53:18City staff and citizens.
4:53:20I stand here today as a representative
4:53:22of the Guelph Community Health Center.
4:53:24I'm the Director of Community Programs and Development
4:53:27and also an engaged citizen for many years
4:53:30in the realm of food.
4:53:32I've been deeply engaged and invested
4:53:34in our Food Futures Initiative since the early days
4:53:37of planning our application
4:53:38and being awarded an incredible opportunity.
4:53:43The Smart Cities Office has facilitated
4:53:46the implementation of innovative programs
4:53:48and collaborations aimed at ensuring access
4:53:50to affordable and nutritious foods,
4:53:52fostering circular businesses
4:53:54and harnessing waste as a valuable resource.
4:53:56Truly an incredible amount of work has been done
4:53:59in a short period of time
4:54:01that would not have been made possible
4:54:03without the amazing support of the Smart Cities Office
4:54:07in our community and a curve ball
4:54:10of a pandemic thrown in the mix of it all.
4:54:13These efforts have not only strengthened our local economy
4:54:16but have inspired many other communities to follow suit,
4:54:19which is really exciting
4:54:20and have been awarded ceremony in our success.
4:54:26I wanna share a few of the successes we see
4:54:28from the Guelph Community Health Center
4:54:29and then talk about next steps.
4:54:32One of our successes is harvest impact
4:54:35fund development strategies that has allowed us
4:54:37to open up new avenues of donors and funders,
4:54:42direct investment of Smart Cities funding
4:54:46to programming specifically to reduce barriers
4:54:48to food access, including co-lab and coil funding,
4:54:51which streamlined our systems of distribution.
4:54:55This funding also was leveraged to receive other funding
4:54:58at provincial, federal foundation
4:55:00and other levels of opportunity.
4:55:04New connections and support,
4:55:05which would not have happened without this initiative
4:55:08and the glue that has made it come together.
4:55:11Specific example is the 30,000 foot warehouse
4:55:14that we have been offered to run our programming out of
4:55:18along with other community partners.
4:55:20The development of a strategy for a community food hub
4:55:23and some of the research that's gone into next steps on that
4:55:27and collective action around that.
4:55:29And the addition of a food system resiliency table
4:55:32in our community, which is one of the legacy projects
4:55:35and has engaged many experts, citizens and partners
4:55:39related to food policy and generated some excellent outcomes
4:55:42in early days.
4:55:44As I shared in my last delegation,
4:55:46we've seen many successes well beyond our center,
4:55:48but I'm not gonna go into over time this time,
4:55:51trying to talk about some of those.
4:55:52What I do wanna discuss is our next collective steps.
4:55:55As a dedicated partner,
4:55:57our food futures remarkable successes,
4:55:59we firmly believe that addressing the sustaining
4:56:02of this work is a matter of importance
4:56:04for long-term and wellbeing of the resilience
4:56:07of this community.
4:56:08We see this as a collective next step
4:56:10and this work would align perfectly
4:56:12with the vision outlined in the Guelph community plan,
4:56:16which serves as a roadmap
4:56:17for the city's growth and development.
4:56:19It emphasizes the need for sustainable
4:56:21and resilient solutions that address interconnected challenges
4:56:25that our community faces.
4:56:26Our future, our food future initiative embodies
4:56:29the principles set forth in the community plan
4:56:32and a transition plan for this work is crucial.
4:56:36We need to see municipalities seeing food as their arena
4:56:40and we're seeing that globally take shape
4:56:43and I'd like to see that happen in our community.
4:56:46The success of our food futures has played a pivotal role
4:56:49in positioning our region as a global leader
4:56:51in the circular food economy
4:56:52and we have an opportunity here
4:56:54that we don't want to let go of.
4:56:56That being said, it's important to recognize
4:56:58the challenges faced by our community
4:57:00extend well beyond food access.
4:57:02As we know, we have issues that we need to address
4:57:05related to housing, mental health, addiction,
4:57:07income security and all of these are deeply intertwined.
4:57:11As a community health center,
4:57:12we're acutely aware of the negative impacts
4:57:14that food insecurity can have
4:57:16at an individual and community level.
4:57:19And by addressing food insecurity,
4:57:21we are tackling a critical aspect
4:57:24that contributes to the overall health of wealth.
4:57:27With the conclusion of this funding approaching this year,
4:57:30we want to look at a transition plan.
4:57:33This plan will ensure the continuation
4:57:35of the incredible outcomes we have witnessed thus far
4:57:37and solidify Guelph's position as a leader.
4:57:40The Guelph CHC would like to be part of this transition
4:57:42planning with the smart cities office,
4:57:44which would be presented back to council later this year.
4:57:48Well, there's much to celebrate as highlighted
4:57:50by the smart city staff report to council
4:57:53and tonight's presentation.
4:57:56Our work is far from being done
4:57:57and we cannot afford to lose the gains we've made,
4:57:59especially in the face of the COVID recovery
4:58:02we are in the midst of.
4:58:04I want to extend a deep gratitude for the leadership
4:58:07the city's taken in this work,
4:58:08including the smart cities office staff.
4:58:10We trust your commitment to the wellbeing of this city
4:58:14and look forward to our continued partnership.
4:58:16Together, let's ensure a vibrant and resilient future
4:58:19for our beloved Guelph.
4:58:21Thank you.
4:58:23Great, and thank you very much.
4:58:24Any questions for this delegation at all?
4:58:28Yes, Councillor Coller.
4:58:30Thank you, Your Worship.
4:58:31Thank you for that presentation.
4:58:34When you talk about a transition plan,
4:58:35what might that look like?
4:58:37Just wanted to be clear on what it is
4:58:39that you're asking of us today.
4:58:41Yes, that's a great question.
4:58:43Through you, Mayor, to Councillor Coller.
4:58:46I don't want to suggest
4:58:49that we're going to ask for millions of dollars.
4:58:52We don't actually have a well thought out transition plan
4:58:55and so we need time to build that.
4:58:57I think there's lots of opportunities to explore.
4:59:00There's some really great work being done internationally
4:59:03in this realm at the municipal level
4:59:05with community partners.
4:59:06And we want to look at those
4:59:08and see which makes strategic sense for this community.
4:59:14I do believe there would be an investment
4:59:16of city funding.
4:59:18I think that's really important,
4:59:19but I'm not going to ballpark what that looks like.
4:59:22What I know, what I've seen in 25 years of this work
4:59:26is without a coordinated effort, the bottom falls out.
4:59:32There are many organizations doing great work
4:59:34and the work needs to be coordinated.
4:59:37And so that's what we would look to.
4:59:40Yeah, and also one other piece
4:59:42is really unlocking other funding.
4:59:45So when we have a municipal partner at the table,
4:59:48we can unlock more funding
4:59:50and that needs some dedicated support.
4:59:53Okay, thank you for that.
4:59:54So I've seen in the staff report
4:59:56that there's still going to be staff time allocated
4:59:59from our economic development team
5:00:00and other teams within the city.
5:00:03So we might be hearing back from the working group
5:00:06in the next couple of weeks, couple of months
5:00:08with a more solid ask.
5:00:10Is that what I'm hearing?
5:00:14Is that a question for me?
5:00:16Maybe not.
5:00:17Okay, I think Councillor Gulliver is asking
5:00:20if you know when the transition plan make becoming like,
5:00:24is that what you're asking?
5:00:25That's what I heard.
5:00:26Okay, so if you're working on a transition plan
5:00:28or a proposal, like, is that coming at some point?
5:00:33So through you, Mayor,
5:00:35I think that transition plan would be presented in the fall.
5:00:39Okay, thank you very much for that.
5:00:41Thank you, worship.
5:00:43Oh, and Councillor Bustintil as well.
5:00:45Thank you very much for the presentation.
5:00:47You mentioned early on that you were part
5:00:49of the original kind of proposal in the application.
5:00:52And my experience is that when you get government funding,
5:00:56there's an end date to that.
5:00:57Can you tell me a little bit or speak to the exit plan
5:01:00that was developed concurrently
5:01:01while you were doing the project?
5:01:03And also the kind of financial monitoring,
5:01:05I monitor finances daily around the trend line,
5:01:09cash flow projects and so on.
5:01:11It seems shocking to me that you're here today saying,
5:01:15the money's out in December
5:01:16and there's not a parallel exit strategy and plan
5:01:21that, yes, has had to be moved up.
5:01:23It just seems like a bit of a help, you know,
5:01:26the house is on fire.
5:01:27I feel very uncomfortable with that.
5:01:29So if you can speak to that, okay.
5:01:32So through you, Mayor, to Councillor Bustintil,
5:01:34thank you for the question.
5:01:35It's a great question.
5:01:36I don't think I'm well positioned to fully answer it.
5:01:39What I can tell you is that there has been a lot of work
5:01:43to create action tables and work groups
5:01:46that would move the work forward in all of the streams.
5:01:49There's been a lot of thoughtful consideration and strategy
5:01:53to pull the community together,
5:01:54to think about what's needed to sustain some of this work.
5:02:00Monitoring the budget, looking at long range planning,
5:02:04I would say the Smart City staff would be better positioned
5:02:07to answer those questions.
5:02:10And there has been oversight of this project
5:02:15with community collaboration,
5:02:17but those would be their questions to answer.
5:02:20Yes.
5:02:23Great, I don't see anything more.
5:02:24So thanks for answering those questions.
5:02:26I appreciate the presentation.
5:02:27Thank you.
5:02:28Thank you.
5:02:29Okay, so it is back to us,
5:02:32and there was some correspondence attached as well.
5:02:36Let me go to Councillor Downer, I think.
5:02:39If you don't want to go first, that's fine,
5:02:40but we kind of left off with kind of waiting
5:02:43for the delegations, and then I was going to go back to you.
5:02:45Do you want to go right now with questions?
5:02:47Sure, so it sort of goes back to my...
5:02:51So I guess it's why this,
5:02:53and I'm just trying to search for the wisdom
5:02:56and spreading this out rather than having,
5:03:00maintaining some sort of catalyst within our organization,
5:03:04as was suggested, that might,
5:03:06could happen at a scaled down element,
5:03:09and maybe even part of what is being asked for,
5:03:11like as a transition, do we need longer, that type of thing.
5:03:15I just, I'm concerned about it going back into silos
5:03:20rather than staying together in a coordinated effort.
5:03:25So thank you, Mr. Mayor.
5:03:26Why don't we go back again,
5:03:27and I'll certainly look for David to step into some
5:03:30of the spaces that I just might leave behind.
5:03:34And I'm going to answer some of the stuff
5:03:39that's come up through the delegations as well,
5:03:41as someone that was here in 2019,
5:03:43and actually part of the submissions.
5:03:48The goals were clear, and they're in the report,
5:03:51and you've heard David say, we're on track,
5:03:54or we're exceeding all of them,
5:03:55the 50, 50, 50 by 2025.
5:03:58And 25 has come up in advance
5:04:00because we did some additional things through COVID
5:04:02to move some things up, and that was part of that work.
5:04:05But always the goal was Fed Dev and others
5:04:09gave us money to come in, spend the money,
5:04:12and the pilot is over, and they've been super clear with us.
5:04:17Both the executive directors,
5:04:19Barb Sports and Trooper last summer and David as well,
5:04:21have been asked, is there another way to do this?
5:04:23Is there more funding?
5:04:25And there isn't a door that hasn't been knocked on,
5:04:27and there isn't a door that hasn't been answered.
5:04:29So, Fed Dev, this is wonderful work.
5:04:33Is it still a priority for you to fund?
5:04:35The answer to that is no.
5:04:37That's why you see infrastructure of Canada.
5:04:41That's why you see in the report,
5:04:42a million dollars to keep the thing moving.
5:04:45So the transition plan is actually
5:04:47what's here in front of you tonight.
5:04:48It has to wind down because there is no money to fund it,
5:04:52but we've hit all the goals, and part of the goals were,
5:04:55and that's why I maybe want to speak to Councillor Dowder
5:04:57and the silos.
5:04:58I think it's more in our DNA,
5:05:00that it becomes regular business.
5:05:02So it's not like it's a silo and solid waste
5:05:05to deal with the work that's happening.
5:05:07That natural fit between our corporate waste division
5:05:10and our zero waste economic transformation lab.
5:05:13Also, the goals was to enable community partners
5:05:16and community organizations to step into the space,
5:05:20grow into the space.
5:05:21You didn't exist before, but now you do now.
5:05:24For those folks, we will always be there
5:05:26because that's what our economic development folks do
5:05:28through their plan.
5:05:30So it sits in there as well.
5:05:32So it's not siloed, it's just in our DNA
5:05:34across the organization here.
5:05:36But we also see great partners.
5:05:38COILs are good at addition.
5:05:40So if you get to 2021, 2019 with our food future,
5:05:45those goals were identified
5:05:46and those objectives have been hit.
5:05:48And it wasn't always, it has to be in government.
5:05:51That's a key piece here.
5:05:52It doesn't have to be in government.
5:05:54We were able to do that early
5:05:56because that's what it needed
5:05:57because it was just disjoint.
5:05:59Today it's not.
5:06:01There's still folks that are working on things
5:06:03that might feel a little bit like that, but it isn't.
5:06:05So COIL is a great example.
5:06:07And that popped up in 2021.
5:06:10Innovation Guelph has said we got this.
5:06:13Also with our economic development people.
5:06:15So the transition isn't at all grounds to a halt.
5:06:19There might be bits and pieces, as David mentioned,
5:06:21and David could certainly give us some further details on that.
5:06:24But set timeline, set dollars.
5:06:27There is no more federal dollars.
5:06:30The other transition that we've got quite honestly
5:06:32is we've got, this is a group of staff
5:06:35that are in contract positions until the end of the year.
5:06:38And as you can imagine, people are loyal
5:06:39and they want to do this work,
5:06:41but they're also looking elsewhere.
5:06:43So it can't just be, well, come back with a transition.
5:06:46The clock is ticking.
5:06:49And yes, the county will keep,
5:06:51Justine happens to be here this evening,
5:06:53the county will keep because there was a home position for that.
5:06:56These didn't have home positions.
5:06:57These were created at the city level
5:06:59and temporary contract positions.
5:07:02So I think there's a reference for public health
5:07:05because they've always been in this area of food deserts
5:07:09and those sort of things.
5:07:09We've worked well with, excuse me,
5:07:12I think Kyle Wilson has been our lead executive.
5:07:16Kyle Wilson, public health should still be our lead executive
5:07:19on some of this stuff.
5:07:20And that's a lane that they plan on a regular basis.
5:07:23So that's sort of my circling on all these things.
5:07:27We are, part of the goals was to empower organizations
5:07:30to take this from us.
5:07:32This wasn't always a goal that it should be in our hands.
5:07:35It can be, you saw in there, it's a million dollars,
5:07:38but what could it be in terms of something else?
5:07:41I think the discussion tonight could be, should be,
5:07:44if you want something else, what is that
5:07:46so that we can move on that fast
5:07:48and bring that back to you sort of from a budget in perspective.
5:07:52We're telling you tonight, the task is done.
5:07:55If you think the task isn't done, help us with that.
5:07:58And then we could get to, let us put that in context
5:08:01for you with a multi-year budget
5:08:02and all the other content that you'll have to deal with
5:08:06and then not too distant future for us as well.
5:08:08So that was a bit rambly, Mr. Mayor.
5:08:11But, and then this work has been at play
5:08:14since the summer of 2022.
5:08:16It's not, it's new here tonight for you, of course,
5:08:19but it hasn't been new in terms of both the executive directors
5:08:23working on, is there another way to do this?
5:08:25Is there a holding company that can be created?
5:08:27Is there another place that it could all move to?
5:08:29And that result is what you've got here this evening
5:08:32with, as you heard earlier, David's report of it.
5:08:35But I'll look to David if I missed anything,
5:08:37because I don't want to miss anything.
5:08:41Okay.
5:08:43So I guess, then I don't understand
5:08:45why this statement's in here.
5:08:46Yeah, you certainly mentioned that there's a million dollar
5:08:49annually to maintain the current operation.
5:08:53But then, so I thank you for what you've said,
5:08:55that makes sense.
5:08:57But it says in the report,
5:08:58it is possible that a scaled down element of the program
5:09:01could be extended through the multi-year budget at a lower cost.
5:09:07So, but you just said to me,
5:09:09but you'll have to tell us what that is.
5:09:12Well, I'm asking you because you put it in the report,
5:09:15what did you have in mind as a scaled down
5:09:20element to the program?
5:09:21So I don't know what that is.
5:09:24So what would that look like?
5:09:26So through you, Mr. Mayor, I'm going to give you,
5:09:27I think we're going to give you two answers.
5:09:29I'm going to give you a direct answer.
5:09:30I think the work is done.
5:09:32I'm going to get David as the author to establish,
5:09:34because he was working with some feedback
5:09:36he was getting from some folks that might delegate.
5:09:39So maybe David could get you to that.
5:09:40What is there a scaled back piece?
5:09:42So I'll look to David to fill in that gap.
5:09:45Well, I mean, when you look at all the things
5:09:48that we've been doing in smart cities,
5:09:50from on the waste side, I think if you look in the,
5:09:53in the strat plan,
5:09:54solid waste resources has a very clear plan
5:09:56on the circular economy, including advancing things
5:09:59like the zero waste economic transformation lab.
5:10:01So I think that is more or less covered off
5:10:04on the business side.
5:10:06As the CAO mentioned,
5:10:10certainly innovation, wealth and tenancy
5:10:11are continuing work on that along with
5:10:15solid waste as well,
5:10:16and economic development in the county.
5:10:21There is, you know, some convening in the food sector
5:10:24potentially where there could be a gap.
5:10:27It's an interesting space when you get very close to it
5:10:30because it's a bit of a black hole
5:10:32in terms of responsibilities.
5:10:33It's not our responsibility.
5:10:35I think if you saw from the county's presentation today,
5:10:38they don't touch on food and public health does,
5:10:41which is why we included this in our report.
5:10:43They're perhaps the closest to it,
5:10:46but I think smart cities was successful partly
5:10:49because it filled a gap somewhat in that space.
5:10:52So, I mean, if we think about gap reports,
5:10:56that that would be one that we, I think, have identified.
5:11:03So that's what you were referring to when you, sorry.
5:11:10Okay.
5:11:11So three, Mr. Mayor.
5:11:12So that is what you're referring to when you talked
5:11:16about the possibility of scaled down elements
5:11:19was it the food part?
5:11:20I'm still trying to wrap my head around
5:11:22what was sort of offered up as an option,
5:11:24but I don't really know.
5:11:26I might take this conversation off
5:11:28and have a conversation with the CEO.
5:11:30Between now and the next,
5:11:33between now and the end of the month.
5:11:35Could I just jump in on this for a second?
5:11:37Is there any correlation between what councillor Downer
5:11:41is identifying in the report
5:11:43to what is being presented as a transition plan?
5:11:46Like, in other words, is there some kind of opportunities
5:11:50that we just are unaware of
5:11:52that this supposed transition plan opportunities
5:11:55would as a proposal would be coming back?
5:11:58Is that what the transition plan is?
5:12:01Because we're hearing from a delegation,
5:12:02there's some kind of a transition plan
5:12:03that might come in the fall,
5:12:05but then they also coincides with the wrap up
5:12:07of the whole thing in fall too, right?
5:12:09So it's kind of like two different messages.
5:12:12Through you, Mr. Mayor, or to you, Mr. Mayor.
5:12:15Yep.
5:12:16I believe the transition plan is more a concept
5:12:19of working through a discussion with community partners,
5:12:23as opposed to the staff report,
5:12:24which was developed largely with leadership
5:12:27in the city and county.
5:12:28I think that's where the transition plan would sit,
5:12:30would be take this back and reconsider some of the gaps
5:12:34where community collaborators who've been involved
5:12:38in this work could see some sort of future municipal role.
5:12:41Okay. Yeah, you answered that very well.
5:12:42Thank you very much.
5:12:44I'm going to go to Councillor Boosenthal and then Claeson.
5:12:48Thank you.
5:12:49I just want to piggyback a bit
5:12:50on what my colleague Councillor Downer has talked about.
5:12:53I thank you very much to the CAO
5:12:55because that was very clear to me.
5:12:58The project's over, the pilot's done, there's no more money.
5:13:01And I feel very comfortable and come from a world
5:13:05where there is lessons and best practices are diffused,
5:13:10that mutual learning, everything happens.
5:13:12Whether it's a conference at the end of this project
5:13:14where partners come and there's case studies,
5:13:17that learning is solidified in some way.
5:13:19I am very comfortable with the notion of a transition
5:13:22of embedding in our municipality.
5:13:25Those learnings and those expectations
5:13:27and those goals and so on.
5:13:28So I'm very comfortable with that in terms of transition.
5:13:32Similar to my colleague,
5:13:33I'm not sure if a transition plan is a conference,
5:13:35is it that knowledge transfer mechanism that needs to happen?
5:13:39I am feeling very uncomfortable with a coordinated,
5:13:42going back to a centralized, coordinated approach
5:13:46because it's in perpetuity.
5:13:49There's never an end.
5:13:50And you were speaking about filling a gap.
5:13:53And to me, that requires another report.
5:13:56What is the gap?
5:13:57Where is the city already funding the gap?
5:13:59Is this duplicating the funding of the gap?
5:14:01So to me, that's a bit of a blank check
5:14:02and I feel very uncomfortable with that.
5:14:04But if the transition is about knowledge transfer
5:14:07to ensure that the capacity exists to carry that forward,
5:14:11very time specific, very clear,
5:14:14then I can live with that because it's got a start end
5:14:16and it's got objectives and people pointed out
5:14:19and things like that.
5:14:20But in perpetuity, filling a gap, I just can't do that.
5:14:26Okay, thank you.
5:14:27And to Councillor Cossum, please.
5:14:30Hey there, thanks for the presentations
5:14:33and the delegations tonight.
5:14:36I have a couple of questions.
5:14:38So I think one of our KPIs from the report
5:14:41we received earlier tonight had to do
5:14:43with the circular economy.
5:14:44And so I just have a question with regard,
5:14:46like would that drop then off?
5:14:48Like if the work doesn't continue,
5:14:50like will we stop monitoring that as a KPI
5:14:52looking forward into the future?
5:14:56So through you, Mr. Mayor, to the Councillor,
5:14:59not having all of that memorized, let me say this way,
5:15:04there will be things that might continue in the community
5:15:08that show up in our strategic plan,
5:15:10but not necessarily done by us.
5:15:12And I think you heard some of the staff talk about that today.
5:15:14So sometimes it's one of your boards.
5:15:17You might, you did ask them earlier today,
5:15:20will you give us some statistical information?
5:15:23Sometimes you get it from others.
5:15:25The transportation world is a great example of that.
5:15:27We might have stats that help us from
5:15:31Ministry of Transportation.
5:15:33You might have some stats from Metrolinx.
5:15:35That's important to us in terms of it feeds something locally.
5:15:41And then the work, I think in solid waste
5:15:45is an example of work that we will continue to work on.
5:15:48So I'm trying to answer it as best I can,
5:15:50because I'm not 100% sure of the KPI that you talk of,
5:15:54but the solid waste one is reflected
5:15:56in our next strategic plan.
5:15:58There might be other pieces of that
5:15:59that are interesting community plan pieces
5:16:02in where we've reflected in there,
5:16:05being upheld by members of the community,
5:16:06not necessarily the city of Guelph
5:16:09who participates also in the community plan.
5:16:12I think, yeah, thank you.
5:16:13I think I, through you there,
5:16:15would just be curious to know, you know, going forward,
5:16:17because I think when we look at our strategic plan,
5:16:19one of those big pillars is, you know, climate.
5:16:22And for me, a lot of this work kind of fell under that.
5:16:24So it was kind of part of those like potential KPIs.
5:16:27But again, that's not my work.
5:16:28That's, you know, that's, I'm a few steps back.
5:16:33I'm not sure if this is a,
5:16:36maybe this is a question for Mr. Messer.
5:16:39I've followed a little bit the work
5:16:41of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation.
5:16:43And I know that they have a lot of private sector partners
5:16:47and university partners and municipal partners,
5:16:51I think two cities.
5:16:52How would that structure,
5:16:55could that kind of structure fall into play here,
5:16:58looking forward?
5:16:59I know that it's like a very, very different perspective.
5:17:02And maybe requires a separate conversation.
5:17:04I just wanted to put that out there.
5:17:06It's just something that came up.
5:17:09Through you, Mr. Mayor.
5:17:10Yes, the Ellen MacArthur Foundation,
5:17:13they're a not-for-profit foundational type company.
5:17:17They receive considerable amount of grants and investment
5:17:21out of the UK, as well as corporate funders, of course.
5:17:23And we actually worked very closely with them.
5:17:25I, they invited my colleague, Ashley,
5:17:28to speak on stage with them
5:17:29at the World Circuit Economy Forum last week
5:17:31in front of an audience of 6,000 people in Helsinki.
5:17:34And yeah, we're also speaking at their forum next week
5:17:37with 50 other cities.
5:17:40But they're a not-for-profit.
5:17:43So there are other Canadian not-for-profits
5:17:45in the circular economy space who we do work with.
5:17:47So circular innovation council is,
5:17:49would somewhat be a Canadian equivalent
5:17:53who's been a very close partner of ours.
5:17:55There's also circular economy leadership,
5:17:56Canada and many others.
5:17:58We've been great partners with all of them,
5:18:01I think because we've had this sort of place-based
5:18:03living lab thing, which has been a bit different.
5:18:06So conceivably, yes, you could create a not-for-profit,
5:18:13but those things need startup funding
5:18:15and all those other things that go with it.
5:18:18And from all of our hunt for additional funding,
5:18:23the challenge has never been finding project funding
5:18:26for this because I think we're doing stuff that's unique
5:18:28and really appeals to a lot of government funders
5:18:30and corporate funders.
5:18:31The challenge is finding baseline funding
5:18:34that you can use to build all that stuff on.
5:18:37And that's really the gift that infrastructure Canada gave us.
5:18:42But when that's kind of expanded,
5:18:43it's something that's quite challenging to replace.
5:18:50Okay, thank you.
5:18:52Thank you.
5:18:54I'm gonna go to O'Rourke and then back to Downer for us.
5:18:57Okay, thank you.
5:18:58Thanks, Marta, through you too, staff.
5:19:00I'm just curious, I heard that Waste Management
5:19:04or Waste Resource Innovation Center
5:19:06is going to be tracking some circular initiatives.
5:19:10I heard that economic development at the county
5:19:12is going to be tracking some of that.
5:19:15Can you just give me a flavor
5:19:16of what our own active is going to be doing?
5:19:18I heard that not 10C,
5:19:21Innovation Guelph is going to take a piece in lead.
5:19:23So will our own active also be making those connections
5:19:27for businesses encouraging and tracking those successes?
5:19:34Thank you.
5:19:35So through the mayor to councillor Wark,
5:19:37so our environmental, sorry,
5:19:40our economic development team has been working side by side
5:19:43with our smart cities team.
5:19:45Of course, they are very interested
5:19:46in all types of businesses,
5:19:48but in this case, they have been working
5:19:50with those businesses that are involved
5:19:53in the circular economy and food future.
5:19:55So they have been doing that already in partnership
5:19:59and will continue to do so in the path going forward.
5:20:04That's great, thanks.
5:20:06Thanks and then right back to councillor Downer.
5:20:09Yeah, just one more question to you, Mr. Mayor.
5:20:11So the sustainability master plan that we're doing,
5:20:16would any of this carry into that?
5:20:20The sustainability master plan,
5:20:22is that just a corporate one
5:20:24or is that for the whole community?
5:20:26Or so I'm just sort of trying to sense
5:20:29how this kind of connects or can connect,
5:20:33or will it connect or what does that do?
5:20:36We've been hearing about it, so I don't know.
5:20:42Sorry, through the mayor to councillor Downer,
5:20:44are you referring to the sustainability report
5:20:47that's coming out?
5:20:48You mentioned the master plan.
5:20:51Well, I know there's,
5:20:52I've seen our sustainability master plan referred to
5:20:56in some work, no?
5:20:59I'll have to find it for you, because I saw it recently,
5:21:02I just saw it the other day.
5:21:03I'll have to go back and find it, I'll send it to you.
5:21:06I thought we were doing some sustainability master planning.
5:21:12I know the mitigation one, or is that the one that?
5:21:17Yeah, through the mayor, yes,
5:21:19it's slightly different wording story.
5:21:20It's at the sustainable city master plan,
5:21:24I think you're talking about.
5:21:25So that's the plan that gets worked on
5:21:27after we have completed our climate adaptation plan,
5:21:31that is coming to you in the fall.
5:21:33So will the sustainable city master plan incorporate,
5:21:38is that just a corporate document?
5:21:40Or is it for the whole community?
5:21:42Will it be incorporating,
5:21:44what kind of sustainability cities initiatives
5:21:48will it be looking at, or would it be considering?
5:21:52It hasn't been started yet, Councillor Downer,
5:21:54because we are going to be leveraging
5:21:55what we find in our,
5:21:57what we're gonna be presenting to you
5:21:58as part of our climate adaptation plan,
5:22:01but it will be the community as opposed to corporate.
5:22:09Thank you.
5:22:10Oh, okay, I'm starting to circle twice now.
5:22:13It's okay, go ahead, one more time, there you go.
5:22:15Just one short question,
5:22:17and just as far as next steps go.
5:22:20So we've received this report,
5:22:22I think you've mentioned a few other dates in the future.
5:22:24Is there another, are you going to come
5:22:27to report something else to us,
5:22:28or is the celebration planned, the funding stops,
5:22:32and that's it, goodbye,
5:22:33is there something planned
5:22:37as another opportunity to come and speak to us?
5:22:42Through you, Mr. Mayor, at this point, no.
5:22:45Our plan would be that this would probably be the last
5:22:48in-person update to Council.
5:22:49We will, of course, we're planning this event in October,
5:22:54and we will have a final report
5:22:56in November, December timeframe,
5:22:58which I imagine will be submitted as an information item,
5:23:01but there could be a presentation as well.
5:23:10Or potentially to budget time.
5:23:14Right, anybody can comment.
5:23:18Oh, but not.
5:23:24All right, so I'm looking then for a motion
5:23:26to the two motions there to receive,
5:23:29and the encouragement to Wellington Dufferin
5:23:30and Guelph Public Health.
5:23:32Would someone be willing to move that?
5:23:33Thank you, Councillor Boussadil,
5:23:35seconded by, okay, Councillor Richardson.
5:23:38Thank you, is there anything further on that?
5:23:41Okay, I'll call the vote anyone against those two motions.
5:23:45Okay, so that passes unanimously.
5:23:47Thank you very much, and we're gonna,
5:23:48Councillor Kerron, can you hear me okay
5:23:51and join us on camera there, if you can?
5:24:01Can you hear me okay?
5:24:02My camera's on.
5:24:04I don't see you, but we can hear you fine.
5:24:06If you wanna just start with audio and...
5:24:09Okay, that is a strange button.
5:24:11Let me just try again.
5:24:14Yeah, no problem, wait a second.
5:24:25I don't know if you can see my screen yet, but...
5:24:28No, audio's perfect though.
5:24:31While you just start with audio.
5:24:32Okay, well let's go with audio only then.
5:24:37I'll turn it over to you.
5:24:39Just, I'll just try to find a seconder
5:24:41as quickly as possible,
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