Economic Development and Tourism Advisory Committee

0:03So coming from these feedback, which we appreciate from our community, a few clarifications that are reflected in the updated policy.

0:13I guess we've removed mentioned to what our independent servicing agreements planning services is working to modernize where our site plan or subdivision agreements and really the capacity that we're.

0:25Collocating the development as well as the lapsing period will be noted in that it wouldn't be a subsequent agreement or something that needed to be referenced on title.

0:33Essentially within the policy we had talked of the fact that if you're coming to the end of a lapsing period is defined you get applied to the city for an extension.

0:43That would go to the deputy CAO of the manager or GM part of me of planning and building services.

0:52Thereafter should that individual say no and the proponent still want to pursue. There was an appeal process that was put into council.

0:59As we look closer at changes to the municipal act with our legal team.

1:04It was defined that essentially we needed an officer of the municipality as part of this appeal process and council wasn't an officer under the act itself.

1:12So this was realigned to the deputy CAO of infrastructure development and enterprise and you know we hope would make for a more agile process but also allow proponents again to engage council should they choose in these circumstances.

1:30Beyond that essentially we have as well put a lot of clarification in place with respect to project milestones such that we hope that there's understanding as to when a process would start and those lapsing periods again.

1:44In total looking to the time allotted both from you know an application that comes in once you have a capacity check will hold that for four years when you develop your application.

1:56Thereafter once the application is approved there is a three year hold as you progress to construct the actual development or build form in this case.

2:05Again complete reports on phase two is available on our website on how you're saying for both phases.

2:15Next slide please.

2:17Some key terms the policy and you this may be much like what we were talking about again in October of last year.

2:27The whole policy seeks to really consult those who are bringing forward applications early such that we give them a signal that we're able to service the development and ensure that the risk is minimized as they go through the process or to develop.

2:41You know what is the final application.

2:45In the policy itself essentially there are formal and informal checks.

2:50An informal check is more of an active due diligence to say I'm looking to build this property and build or buy this property and build a large plant there let's say I just want to know what the system support that or not as of yet.

3:02We don't hold those checks.

3:04They are certainly subject to the cost and scope related to them.

3:09However what holds capacity through the process is a formal check.

3:14A formal check would evaluate to make sure that on the plant side for water and wastewater, as well as from a pipe side of things water and wastewater that in all cases we can support what is the proposed land use development at the end of the day.

3:28Again this is done as part of applications and held for 48 months while the proposal works to get final approval of their application.

3:38These checks are subject to costs and are currently subject to costs in advance the policy coming into place.

3:46So for more simplistic proposals we're able to do those evaluations in house under current staff time.

3:53There are an additional cost of proponents that come through that as we get to significant proposals those that are usually looking at large takings of water or loading of wastewater.

4:04There's the need to engage external consultants that manage our detailed kind of linear engineering models.

4:11Just be those checks on our behalf and in some cases even come to define alternatives such that if there's improvements needed downstream to ensure that we can service nearing the city.

4:22These are brought to light and it's understood kind of what the constraints are or alternatives as far as you know again proponents seeking to advance their proposals.

4:32What I'm interested in would be of the most interest to this group here is our community economic development and investment proposals.

4:39This really looks to our competition with other communities for industry and really as we're getting those requirements from industry ensuring that we can quickly turn those around and provide those signals back.

4:52Such that we're in a place to support the water wastewater needs of your business and in turn it's held that again that associate capacity is held while we're competing for that business to a maximum of a 12 month term.

5:07I know Christine you're at the table and Bill as well from economic development certainly appreciate your insights here.

5:15With that we understand that it's very common as we get much in advance of 12 months that we know where that investment is landing. Hopefully they're choosing wealth but just from a reputational perspective or in a place to hold that and ensure that we're in a place to support them as these discussions and initiations are ongoing.

5:34Again, as part of site plan or subdivision agreements or building permits these lapsing terms will be defined.

5:43And again, that would be the physical time in which capacity is allocated to a project so a clear signal to those advancing those projects again that they have capacity in the period of time that they're expected to read substantial performance.

5:57Next slide please spoken to earlier performance if they're coming to the end of their lapsing period under the policy the city will give them notice to say you know 60 days in advance in your lapsing period.

6:16I want to have an opportunity then to submit extensions to the city seeking to again extend their lapsing period.

6:25Certainly we want to see more housing and if performance are moving ahead and making good progress.

6:31Again, we're willing to work with them and ensure that again, you know they have the time needed to advance their proposals.

6:38Under again the view of nothing's happening and we have people knocking on our door to say I'm looking to build housing and there's other objectives the community would like to do.

6:46Again that notice would be provided them 60 days in advance and in absence of an extension.

6:51We seek to reclaim that and again look to reallocate it to more shall already development within the city.

7:00Through this process again should GM of planning and building services not support an extension request.

7:07There's the ability of the component again to appeal to the deputy CEO of infrastructure development and enterprise.

7:14And again, engage council and processes we've spoken to.

7:18And as far as council decision makers the policy starts to speak to the fact that through each year a growth management report that comes ahead in March.

7:27Then we share with council what is the capacity of your system.

7:31So again as they're making those decisions they're informed on how much water wastewater capacity is available within the systems themselves.

7:38Similarly there are some triggers within the document that should we hit 10% remaining.

7:44The GM of environmental services would send something to council at that time not wait on this report just so again council had an understanding of where we stood as far as availability within their servicing systems.

7:56Next slide please.

8:01So as far as next steps and I know some historic dates here but just wanted to show you kind of the final consultations in place we had met with.

8:08The Grand Highlands Home Builders Association on Friday of last week just to talk through some questions related to the policy.

8:16And largely a good amount of support from the developers association to appreciate.

8:21Last night there was a like presentation to the planning environment and water advisory committee.

8:27In which we gained both receipt of the report as well as their endorsement.

8:32I'm happy to be back here today.

8:34Thereafter we'll be going to council in February the 3rd as part of the media the whole for council discussion deliberation and ultimately looking for approval in late February the 24th proceeding.

8:47Next slide please.

8:53Again I shared a report with the committee to accompany this so within the report you would find this resolution.

9:01With the committee's consideration and I believe that's our last slide so thank you again and open things up with questions from the group.

9:10Bless you.

9:15I have a question.

9:26I was just curious who were or what kind of meanness have what municipalities were kind of the gold standard that had this rule that we're having a parent or so.

9:38We are one of the first out of the gate without policy.

9:43I know the region of water Lou and region appeal are developing policies but a little bit different in the fact that we're talking of regional government and essentially two layers that the challenge being a local municipality has the planning authority but the region would hold the servicing so both water and wastewater.

10:02There are some great policies in place.

10:06Town of Blue Mountains and others but those were endorsed prior to bill 185 so those communities would have to come back if again they wanted to exercise some of the powers of bill 185 and approve a new ball and a new policy or bylaw under its form so.

10:23Yeah, certainly me look to those in development of our policy but kind of yeah one of the first of the game with new new powers under bill 185.

10:33So that calls the leader.

10:37Anyone online questions.

10:43Silence is gold in the room anybody.

10:46All right.

10:52So the recommendation that the economic development tourism advisory committee receives the report and forces the draft final water and wastewater servicing allocation policy.

11:06Do I have someone to move for that recommendation.

11:11Sorry, I'm sorry, Chelsea take you and to second up Dennis thank you Dennis.

11:25Any opposed to the recommendation. Thank you very much. Thank you Wayne for the presentation.

11:40It's here about it.

11:46Awesome. Thanks very much.

11:54Okay, right on cue look at that.

11:58Where was it like.

12:18Well good presentation.

12:20That'd be amazing.

12:22Sorry, you got that.

12:24You just let me know when the next slide. Alright.

12:29Okay, the second item for discussion today is the St. George's Square the final design update presentation from space.

12:39My name is Stacy and the down time revitalization advisor.

12:44And then with me is Andrew. He's the engineer that is managing all the downtown infrastructure projects.

12:50So you might recall that we were here a few months ago to give you sort of an overall update on the downtown infrastructure renewal project.

12:58And today we're just here to update you on what happened with St. George's Square.

13:03And then we have a final design that was approved by council last month after a significant amount of community engagement.

13:11So, the approval of the design for St. George's Square means that we kind of met another milestone in the overall downtown renewal project, which makes us happy and keeps us moving forward.

13:26So, the next item for discussion today is the St. George's Square will be part of phase one of the work.

13:33So that includes Wyndham Street from Wellington Street to Wallet Street.

13:38And based on our anticipated construction sequencing, the surface works in St. George's Square should be completed around at the end of phase one, which should be in late 2027.

13:49And then with the final touches, sometimes we refer to those as the icing on the cake, having probably in early 2028.

13:57So this is the concept design that was presented to council in July.

14:03It was inspired by Wolff's unique landscape, and it was kind of designed to be a vibrant year-round destination.

14:11It was, we wanted it to be an active hub for connection, play, celebration, and inviting people of all ages to come together and experience our downtown.

14:21At that meeting in July, council provided direction that the final design should increase the flexibility to support seasonal patios as well as community events.

14:31They also requested that the final design reflect the heritage and character of downtown through the integration of natural materials and heritage-inspired elements.

14:40One of our key interest holders is the Downtown Gold Business Association.

14:45They also passed motions regarding this design, and they asking for some modifications.

14:51They wanted to ensure that the design reflected the heritage character of downtown while supporting a vibrant downtown public space.

14:59They asked us to look at incorporating the community-led place-making initiative for a tribute to Robert Munch, particularly the Paper Bank Princess, and to find a more discreet location for the public washer.

15:15So, next slide.

15:20So, during the engagement with the community, with those key interest holders that I mentioned in council, we heard that the concept should include what was referred to as a wow factor.

15:31It should have more natural materials, including more trees and native planting, and it should have less concrete.

15:38The design should also be more flexible in order to provide space for events.

15:43We also received some comments that the design should be more sympathetic to the heritage character, like I mentioned.

15:49We did receive mixed feedback about including the public washroom. Some people in support of it, others are requesting that it be removed, and then others are requesting that it be located somewhere else in downtown.

16:02We also received mixed feedback regarding the place-making structure or area for play. The feedback ranged from support and desire to be expanded to those that thought it was unnecessary and having concerns about creating an area for play within our downtown,

16:18and then others suggesting that they liked it, but it should be relocated within the square.

16:23During our September open house, that is when the community led idea for the tribute to Robert Munch came forward, and it was brought forward as something to consider in lieu of the interactive place-making structure ideas that we have proposed.

16:37There are also other requests, space for the outdoor patios, additional lighting, and more opportunities for shade and seating.

16:51Taking into account all of the feedback that we heard, this plan was what was presented to Council and approved in December.

17:03So we think it directly responds to what we heard from the community, from the DGBA, from people that come downtown, and also what we heard from Council, and that's what we heard over the years of 2024 and 2025.

17:20We think that it balances the needs and desires of the business community with the needs and desires of residents, visitors, and downtown customers. It recognizes the existing heritage character of downtown.

17:31It reflects our community in that we value the environment and nature. We also want to highlight that the plan is flexible to accommodate day-to-day use, as well as larger events, and then it's also able to evolve over time.

17:47So for instance, elements that are included today could be included in the future. And then if you can just click and it'll play the fly-through.

17:54Oh, there's a check.

17:59Oh, are you in teams from that? If you go back and click on the small one and hit play, is this a PDF or is it Teams?

18:18And this is an PDF.

18:20Oh, then I won't play. Sorry, I won't play from a PDF. I apologize.

18:24There is a wonderful fly-through. We can send the link to it on the website.

18:28But it flies through the whole design for you. You can see that area in the northwest corner where we have the area, like a place for that area to play or the Robert Munch tribute.

18:39You can see how we've put trees in a combination of planters and soil cells, and we've placed them in a way so that it kind of rapidly gets the edge of a small forest.

18:49The umbrellas that you see are movable, not like easily by a person, but can be moved by our creation staff to provide that flexibility, but also provide that shade.

18:58In this southwest corner, sort of in front of RBC, that area is designed as flat so it can accommodate a temporary stage for different events.

19:08The existing transit stops on Wyndham Street will be maintained.

19:13And then on the eastern side of Wyndham Street, you can see that the family fountain is located over there.

19:19So that is both highly visible within the square, but also as you approach the square along Wyndham or Quebec.

19:25There are wide stairs on that eastern side as well, which provide informal seating opportunities.

19:31And the area at the top of the stairs can be used as a natural stage if that's needed.

19:37And then the DGBA's Big Heart has been retained, and it kind of frames the view of Douglas Street, which through public engagement was identified as sort of a gem within our downtown.

19:48And St. George's saying a church at the end, so it creates that additional vista.

19:56So we'll just quickly go through some of the things that we did to add, like to address the comments that were brought up. Go to the next slide.

20:04So the wow factor, what we did there was really place a lot more emphasis on the promenade.

20:10And so this is a wide area that sort of goes around the edge of the square and defines it.

20:18We've added emphasis to that by increasing the width as well as adding lighting to it. It'll be a minimum of about six meters wide.

20:26And then you can see the overhead lighting that we've added to it in particular on the top left image.

20:33The bottom right image shows how that promenade area can accommodate seasonal patios.

20:39The other intention about that promenade was that it was intended to draw pedestrians around to the edges of the square, which is where the businesses are located instead of sort of walking straight along the window or straight in the back to give that interaction between people that are walking down to have

20:54this emphasis. And then the other approach here was by sort of really emphasizing that outer edge. We've left this center of the square flexible so that we can have like day to day activation but as well also those larger events.

21:09Next slide please.

21:14So we looked at ways to increase flexibility. So some of those planters that we had used to sort of larger planters they were reduced in size but then shifted toward the edge of each quadrant of the square.

21:27That allows for different configurations of the of the square to be used for events so you could choose to use just the westerly side of Wyndham Street by closing a section of Quebec you could use the quadrants individually, or you could close the entire like the streets and use the entire square.

21:43And we have proposed removable ballards to do that in a way that is attractive and fairly easy. Also the fountain, which is on the right hand side, or sorry, the right hand top picture.

21:58What we've done is we've shifted a little further towards Old Quebec Street shops. So that opens up that amount of flexibility between Wyndham Street and the fountain. Again, creating that space for the stage to be at the top of the stairs.

22:11And we've reduced the lower basin in size a little bit. So it will still have what people have told us they love like having the fountain in square have all of the same effects in terms of the water and all of that, but just a little bit smaller the shape will remain generally the same.

22:27To increase the flexibility and usability of the square overall.

22:34Next slide. So to introduce more natural materials and better reflect the heritage character at downtown.

22:45We've added more trees and then we've modified the materials. So I mentioned we've now got the trees in soil cells, cells and planters.

22:54And they've been to sort of replicate the edge of a small forest. And that helps to provide an overall more natural feeling in the area and reduce the impact of the hard scaping.

23:05But keeping that hard escaping helps to maintain the flexibility of the square to predate a use as well as events.

23:12The addition of more trees also increases the amount of shade that will be provided, which was one of the other things we heard from the public.

23:20And then for planters, we really took a look at the design of those. And we're looking at using limestone or something that appears to be limestone, depending on our budget, of course.

23:32And they even mod it modified so that they provide additional public seating before some of them had ramped edges so they can be sort of runnable climbable skatable some people would say.

23:44But now they have certain more straight edges that increase the amount of informal seating opportunities that we have.

23:51And then also we've added some lighting to it just to increase the attractiveness of them during the day and at night.

23:59Next slide.

24:05So I talked a little bit about the place making initiative and how we had mixed feedback on it. So I'm loving it, wanting to expand it, so I'm wanting it removed.

24:14So what we are doing right now is creating that space for it. We're allowing for the community led idea for the Robert Munch tribute to go through.

24:25There's a formal process for the city's public art policy and how we deal with community led proposals.

24:31So we're allowing for that process to happen. And then we're setting up this plan so that it can accommodate that idea.

24:37So that's what happens through that public art process. And then what we'll do is look at whether we can design an interactive place making structure that complements it.

24:46So one of the things that we've talked about is if there's a bench with paper by a princess does our interactive structure, is it more like the dragon from the book.

24:55So like creating on that. If for some reason the Robert Munch tribute is located somewhere else not in the square, then we'll go look at the ideas that we had originally proposed.

25:05So the Guelph letters and for the black cat chickadee, which are assignable playable all of that.

25:11And the plan that was approved by council creates the opportunity for either of those things or again both of its the Robert Munch idea.

25:25So I talked a little bit about lighting. The prominent lighting is has the catenary structure. So that's the top left corner.

25:34And we also have area lights throughout this where so that we have appropriate lighting levels everywhere and those design those lights will match was going to be proposed in Baker district with the library and so creating that cohesiveness throughout downtown.

25:50And then I had mentioned that we've added lighting to the planters. We're doing a similar type of lighting around the bottom of the fountain.

25:59And in the bottom two pictures you can see clusters of light sticks. So these are kind of more dynamic lighting. They can be different heights, different colors, just add something a little interesting to downtown.

26:11And then those taller area lights that I mentioned, we can also, instead of one a light head we can add a projector there to project images or shapes or anything down off the square to make it a little bit more interactive or bring in that place making element through the

26:25lighting. Next slide please. So I briefly did talk about we did remove the public washrooms there was an information report that went to council in October explaining that when we undertook some additional research about self cleaning public washrooms with municipalities that have had more time operating those facilities.

26:52There are benefits but there are certainly things that can still be improved upon. So we're going to do some additional research. We're also going to look at more traditional ways of providing a washroom in or in proximity to the square which could be sort of a storefront location or more traditional type washroom.

27:10We do think it's important as we're increasing hope we've increased the number of events in the square that a public washroom facility will be available. So that still is something that's important to staff.

27:22And again, certainly there were members of the community thought that thought it was very important as well. So that's still looking, we're still looking at that.

27:31And then the other modifications were that the gateway features and the shade structures were removed from the plan that you saw in July. And the reason for that is because we added that lighting structure around the edge it helps to frame the gateways.

27:44But also, in part like having so many vertical structures created a little bit of visual confusion.

27:52But as I mentioned, plan can evolve over time. So if we're finding that we do need them, we can add them. And then we felt comfortable removing the shade structures because we increased the number of trees which also increased the amount of shade.

28:05So just to highlight for this group, we did do an extensive amount of engagement to arrive at this point in 2024. We really focused on collecting ideas and opportunities about the square.

28:27And then in early 2025, we sort of created different design options and then took those in for public feedback. And that is involved the design that went to July and then more feedback which involved the plan that you see here.

28:42We would also like to know that the downtown vault business association was able to review the final plan before it came back to council for approval.

28:52And they passed a motion recognizing that the final plan addressed all the previous motions and concerns they had raised and they passed a motion supporting the plan. So we felt good about that, about having heard them, heard what they said accurately and were able to respond.

29:10Next slide please.

29:18So just to highlight again, we did recommend that council approved the plan because it did address a number of the things that we had heard from interest holders and groups over 2024 and 2025.

29:32It addressed the concerns that council raised in July and the public raised in September with sort of the more detailed plan that was at a public open house.

29:40We really do feel like it balances the needs and desires of the downtown business community with the needs and desires of residents, visitors and downtown customers.

29:50And again, having that regard for the existing heritage character of downtown showing what we value as a community in terms of the environment and nature and then it has that ability to evolve for a time.

30:02So we're hoping.

30:04I think First St. George's Square to be an active urban plaza and a central gathering place that provides flexibility to accommodate a wide range of events and activities, so including that daily use and that self activation, as well as larger events and festivals.

30:21So that is the overview in the quick nutshell and we're happy to answer any questions that you have.

30:28Thank you very much for the presentation.

30:31Anyone online questions.

30:37Stacy.

30:38Actually, I just want to make more than a comment. Stacy and team I just want to congratulate you because I know it's been a process and I know there's been a lot of work and a lot of consultation and just, I think it looks fantastic and it's as you said it does speak to

30:56thoughts, concerns, you know, you did hear the feedback you listened to changed a lot of things that, you know, upon those consultations so I just want to commend you and your staff for, like I said, I've seen you through the process and I want to I'm so happy to see you on the other side of it and with a great plan ahead.

31:15You may also just have one more question sorry to me.

31:22And this is something you probably cannot answer.

31:26Stacy, but I was just curious with the new announcement from BMO.

31:31Potentially, I'm just curious if that if, and I guess you can maybe it's more of a commentary future perhaps is there opportunity to depending on what they decide to do with the building.

31:43I think we'll also warrant some opening space into increasing that area but also to potentially a walkway or some kind of interesting attraction between Baker Street as well too so food for thought I guess I'm sure you're already on it thinking about it.

32:00We are aware situation and watching it closely.

32:04Yes, I would imagine. Thanks.

32:10Any questions from inside the room.

32:13Oh, sorry.

32:16Sorry, go ahead sir.

32:18I think crystal already said most important things so I find it fascinating how the feedback was evolving into this new project.

32:29So I think it looks very good it will be a big advantage for the downtown.

32:35A big improvement. And yeah, congratulations. I'm looking forward to it can't wait to get it's good gets done.

32:44Thank you.

32:45I just want to say that I said Christmas love.

32:52Yeah, I'm excited for is what's happening on either side of the main street right now is that already work that's starting like on either side.

33:02So I'm looking forward to the next year utilities that's going ahead of us to replace all of their underground infrastructure and build extra capacity to future proof for development coming downtown so that they don't have to come and redo any

33:16excavation after we've done all this road work.

33:19So that's what they're doing there ahead of us starting to get North of St. George's Square by April for when our contractor gets started and then they'll be continuing up the road through the rest of the year.

33:31So that's what's great.

33:34Was there a recommendation.

33:37Sorry, I realized we didn't get to see the video and I know I want to see the video. Do you mind if I share this video.

33:45We're just we're just trying to make it work on our end over here.

33:51Here we go.

33:53Okay.

34:27So going to work.

34:43I think you're going to see a lot of pictures on social media of the current and Douglas.

34:50It's a really cool awesome. Thanks for pulling that up.

34:57Was there a recommendation for the committee or was just the presentation. It's just a presentation kind of closing that from when we were here. I think it was September. Yeah. Yeah. Just closing that.

35:09And letting you know kind of what happened with that aspect of the project.

35:13Awesome.

35:17Sorry.

35:19Unless you guys want to pass the motion, you can receive an endorsement that's entirely up to you.

35:24But I'll leave that with the committee.

35:29You also don't need to pass anything and just say thank you. That's okay too.

35:33It's exciting.

35:35And all these points these are not public right like these are okay.

35:38I can show the kids a dinner.

35:41Excellent.

35:43Number three chair and staff announcements.

35:47I don't have any announcements, but I do believe we have someone do joining us.

35:53I can't wait to get your name from this far. I am so sorry.

35:58If you would take a moment to introduce yourself.

36:02I think you're talking about me. My name is Seemeen.

36:06Nice to meet everybody.

36:08I am obviously based in Guelph.

36:10Background is I am a co-founder of a consulting company.

36:17That's my side hustle, but my main main gig is I'm heavily from healthcare industry.

36:24So looking forward to contributing here.

36:27So we're very welcome to this committee.

36:33Is there any other announcements?

36:38Our general manager of economic development and tourism has the schedule like that.

36:43We had meetings the last couple of years.

36:47I just wanted to introduce myself. So James Goodrum.

36:50And yeah, welcome. I know this is you've been around for a little bit.

36:54You know, like last year was a year of transition.

36:57So we have a newcomer today. So that's great.

37:01Starting the new year is January. So I think, you know, thank you for your time.

37:05You know, it's volunteering and you're taking time out of your personal lives and work lives to attend.

37:11Thank you for that.

37:13And we can bring lots of things for you to, you know, ponder and review.

37:19But I think most importantly, but really, I think we really want to hear from you folks.

37:26What's happening in the community? What's happening in the businesses?

37:30Are there things that you want to hear about?

37:33So really kind of flipping around to you to kind of, because we go through our agendas and we look at what's coming down the pipeline and things that we want to put on.

37:42But it's a two-way street, right? So I think it's always very valuable to have, you know, folks like yourselves let us know and identify some things that you want to hear about.

37:53Or maybe your company's like a representing want to hear about or what at you.

37:58So that's it. So thank you for having me here and welcome.

38:04Excellent. Thank you.

38:07Another phase I haven't seen previously to Liz's right. Who do we have?

38:12Yes. So we have Jordan. Jordan is an additional boarding committee coordinator.

38:20So we're taking over Winnie's role when he left us in September to resign in September.

38:26And Jordan, he's been part of the city clerk's office for a while.

38:29You may have seen him on the committee of adjustment side of things, but now he's joining me in the board of committee side of things.

38:36So if you don't get emails from me, you'll get emails from Jordan.

38:40You don't see me at a meeting. You'll see Jordan providing the same level of support.

38:47Yeah, you want to choose?

38:49Well, everyone, Liz, thank you for the introduction.

38:53I will do my best to live up to the standard that Liz and the rest of our team have set.

38:59And I look forward to working with everyone.

39:01As I said, I'm coming from the committee of adjustment world.

39:05So, you know, I'm a bit familiar with our work, but I look forward to learning more about it.

39:10Thanks Jordan.

39:12Okay, I guess that moves to number four and adjournment.

39:16The recommendation that the economic development, terms of advisory committee meeting be adjourned.

39:21Do I have someone to move the motion?

39:27Thank you, Chris.

39:28Someone to second.

39:31Excellent.

39:33Next meeting is months from now.

39:36I have a full day.

39:37Right down.

39:38Sorry, just someone out of the date handy.

39:40Yes, February 10th.

39:42We shall do this again.

39:44And.

39:46Thanks everybody.

39:48Happy new year everyone.

39:50Thank you.

39:51Bye bye.

39:52Thank you, everybody.

39:53Thank you for your presentations.

39:55Thanks for your talk.

40:00Always to me.