Accessibility Advisory Committee

0:02accessibility advisor. Thank you for joining online in person. I'm going to read the acknowledgement.

0:13So as we gather, let us take time to reflect on our privilege to live and work in the world.

0:19Let's see what our rich and dangerous histories. We are guests here and we should push a reflected

0:25line in the possibility of care for this land. The people who live here today and the generations

0:31that come to our action city can move us towards reconciliation. We should pause and make those

0:37decisions with intention and gratitude. This place we call the Walth has served as traditional

0:43lanes, sorry to envision the traditional lanes and a place that refuge for many people over time.

0:49The most specifically a patterned one to rock and be rolled in no show need. This latest held

0:56it as the trade lanes in territory within the slugness of the Grand First Nations.

1:02All the flights directly adjacent to the hold and attract came as one of the longest

1:07average traditional landing ground in the six nations of the Grand River. Many first nations

1:13can make people who have come from across the earth island call Walth hold today.

1:21Okay, so let's go on to our agenda. So we don't have anything of the disclosure of that word

1:30interest in general, nature, and so I'd like to get approval of the minutes.

1:39In the March 17, 2026 meeting of class accessible advisor can be approved.

1:47But anyone like to move sorry, thank you. And anyone like to second it?

2:01Perfect. Thanks, Sean. I forgot a way about getting this anyone against the

2:08approval on the miss hearing dog.

2:12Um, that motion has cashed.

2:19Then let's jump into our committee items. So the first one we may go on today is by the

2:28branch. First one is manager engineering and transportation services design and cultivation.

2:36I'm hoping he was supposed to be last month. We have push Raj. Unfortunately, thanks for

2:42showing up again. No, no, no, no, no, no. Um, please recommendation as well.

2:47Thank you. Okay, Raj, that's all. Yes. Um,

2:54okay, well, thank you very much committee for inviting me to come today. I am filling in for

2:59Colleen gammy who was unfortunately not who was here last month, unfortunately not able to make

3:03make it this month.

3:04So, but I just wanted to bring this forward

3:09to the committee to, so you're aware of what is going on

3:13on Wyndham Street North in the construction.

3:16So the purpose of today is to inform the advisory committee

3:20of the measures taken to provide accessible parking

3:23during reconstruction of Wyndham Street.

3:26And again, as I mentioned,

3:27is a continuation of discussion started last month.

3:32So March 30th saw the mobilization of the contractor

3:37and reconstruction of Wyndham Street commenced.

3:42Construction along the corridor will continue

3:44through November of 2027 with various portions

3:48of Wyndham Street being closed and reopened

3:51at various times.

3:52It will be a fluid and flexible work site.

3:55So again, site will be active.

3:59Regarding accessible parking,

4:01as we understand there was four accessible parking spaces

4:04were impacted on Wyndham Street

4:07south of St. George's Square.

4:09And so what we've done is we've installed five spots

4:15are being provided on Macdonnell and Cardes streets near Wyndham.

4:21The drawing, I think you can see up in front of you

4:25shows where the locations are right now.

4:28And I took some pictures there just to describe it even clearer

4:33if you want to zoom in on any of those at your leisure.

4:36The sites chosen by our traffic engineering folks

4:41suit the needs of the construction right now,

4:44but I will say they may have to slide a little bit

4:48based on as construction advances,

4:53they may move a little bit to enable construction.

4:57So that, is there any questions?

5:03So I'm here to answer any questions

5:05or commit to getting an answers for you.

5:11I don't see any questions online.

5:12I'll ask a question.

5:13Reggie, so I'm just before we go into the discussion.

5:18I hope you may have seen me on the slideshift.

5:20So can you get a question?

5:21I'm just asking and maybe.

5:24Okay, I thought that was a question.

5:27Yeah, just ask if there's any.

5:29Sorry, but that's good.

5:30What's it supposed to be?

5:32A survey of that group picture here.

5:35Sorry, before you go on,

5:38I'll be Jordan has mentioned that they might have been

5:39he ended up for a disclosure of

5:42peaking in your interest in general nature, their love.

5:45What was that?

5:48I hand my mistake because in the approval of minutes,

5:51was that for the disclosure?

5:57Anyone online?

6:02Seemed in.

6:03Sorry, were you asking if there were questions

6:05or it was a bit tough to hear you there?

6:08I think it was Jordan noticed that there is a hand raised

6:10for the pecuniary interest.

6:13But we didn't know if it was by mistake

6:14or for the approval of the events.

6:17No, I had a question about parking.

6:20Well, then you,

6:21since you have the floor and you're unmuted.

6:23Thank you for the question.

6:24All right, just it's great to see.

6:28You said there were four parking spots, five available now.

6:31You greatly appreciate that.

6:33Um, so two questions.

6:38It looks like the way that the parking spots are set up,

6:43people with different kinds of vehicles can use it.

6:47So if they access it from the left or right

6:51or from the back and use a wheelchair,

6:53they'll still be able to like, these are,

6:57you have options here.

6:58So it's not just relegated to one style of car.

7:04We're limited a little bit in what we have on site right now.

7:10The, for the most part,

7:13we're limited to limited options there

7:16unless we want to do curb work.

7:19And I do want to say that this is,

7:22these are gonna be, they're somewhat flexible

7:24and will be moved from time to time.

7:26They're not, certainly not a permanent installation.

7:30So we, I am still working with our traffic engineering folks

7:34to decide on exactly what nature's work needs to be done.

7:40So, but we've just outlining where the locations are right now.

7:45Okay.

7:46And then, so if there is a way to find out like how the,

7:52sorry, forgive my, the way I'm asking this.

7:55Okay.

7:56Sometimes you'll say like there's a parking spot

7:59and then there'll be like the hash marks on the road

8:02so that another car can't park beside it,

8:04but that can be on the left side

8:06or it could be on the right side, right?

8:08So it's those elements I'm just wondering about.

8:11So if they're all set up to have the hash marks,

8:15if I'm using the right term, the painted lines

8:17on the left side, would there be an option

8:20of one of them having, so you can access it on the right?

8:23That's what I was wondering.

8:25Yeah.

8:26That is some of the discussions I have.

8:28I am having with our traffic engineering folks.

8:31Again, these are spots within the typical parking location.

8:35So, yeah, marking out hash marks,

8:39maybe a bit challenging here, but again,

8:44these are conversations I am having

8:45with our traffic engineering folks

8:47to do the best we can for it's really a temporary situation.

8:52Fair enough.

8:53So, yeah, we're also wanting to make sure

8:57that downtown area is accessible through

8:59to November 27, I think you said.

9:02So, and even if they're just wider

9:03than people can adjust in the parking slot, so that's fine.

9:07My one other question is then you talked about

9:10that these may move depending on construction,

9:12totally makes sense, is are the parking spots

9:16going to be listed anywhere or shared anywhere?

9:19So before someone starts driving downtown,

9:21they know they should aim for those general five spots

9:26that they're heading downtown, but say in February 27,

9:30they've moved to another place.

9:32Is there a spot for communication to let people know

9:34before they start driving around and find there's nothing?

9:38Yes, there is.

9:39We've already talked about the projects.

9:42The project has a web page called Digable Download.

9:47And we talked about putting a map on that web page

9:52to direct people to where the accessible parking is,

9:56because it will change as construction advances.

9:59That makes sense.

10:01And to do it, I'm guessing that that's just asking.

10:07I would personally be asking,

10:09because my background's more in helping,

10:12assisting with communication,

10:14that there's advanced notice for folks to people,

10:17like let people know, because you never know,

10:19somebody could have dinner plans or an appointment,

10:24or they want to come into City Hall for something

10:27to know ahead of time before they make their plan down.

10:31That's right.

10:32Yeah, I fully agree.

10:36Yeah, we do have this Digable Download web page.

10:40I think I put a link in the report to it,

10:43just to say this is the type of information we're having on it.

10:46And I will follow up with our communications folks

10:50and the keepers of that website to make sure

10:52that we do have something on there

10:54about the locations of accessible parking.

10:56Awesome.

10:57And is that site gonna be shared on social media as well?

11:01I can also ask that point.

11:03It is, we do have social media blasts going out as well.

11:07And then they do reference that site,

11:09but again, I'll just follow up

11:12and make sure our communications people

11:13have this on their radar.

11:15Thank you.

11:16Those are all of my questions.

11:18Thanks so much.

11:20You're welcome.

11:21I'm sorry to the committee,

11:22if I jumped ahead there on something.

11:27Okay.

11:28Thanks, Jen, for those questions.

11:30Branch, off of Jen's question.

11:34So you said that there's the four spots.

11:37So I know there was one on the south side of Macdonald,

11:39sorry, the south side of the window,

11:42in front of the progress brewery.

11:45And then there was one in front of the old TV on Wyndham.

11:49The one that's on the bottom of Hardin and Wyndham,

11:53that's an existing spot, correct?

11:55There is one existing spot there now,

11:58and excuse me, excuse my ignorance

12:01on where accessible parking was before,

12:04but this is what I've been told.

12:05There was a site on the other side of Wyndham on Cardin

12:10that has been, had to be removed for construction purposes.

12:15And it has now been so temporarily put together

12:20with the one on Cardin Street.

12:22So there's two sites there now.

12:24There's one existing and one new one.

12:27And then one on the other end of Cardin

12:30closer to the parking garage, right?

12:32Yeah, there was one there.

12:33And I understand that one was removed.

12:38And as soon as, I would say in July,

12:41the first phase of Wyndham Street will be completed.

12:45They're right now, they're starting at Wellington,

12:46working their way north.

12:48By the end of the July, the plan is that they will be done

12:51through the intersection of Cardin Street.

12:54And at that time, the accessible parking on Cardin Street

12:58will be returned to what it was.

13:03Sorry, again, off of Jen's question.

13:07Parking stalls versus parallel parking.

13:10So these basically just like pulled in spots.

13:14Yeah, the ones on Cardin are part of the angled parking.

13:16There is a picture there, right beside it.

13:20Oh, there, okay.

13:22So it's like that, okay.

13:23Yeah, that's what they look like now.

13:29Does anyone have any other questions for Rich?

13:33I think this is a key thing,

13:35especially since it's gonna be 2027,

13:39coming to Longtown.

13:45So hearing again, we're seeing none.

13:51Basically Rich, you want the committee

13:53to receive what you just said,

13:55I don't think so, the parking spots.

13:58Yeah, just to receive for information for these spots.

14:02And I've got some valuable feedback already

14:05that I'll take back to our communications team.

14:10I think like Jen said, if you can get the,

14:14I forget if you just use what it's, engineering?

14:17Is that the engineering team?

14:19Oh, I'm sorry, I referenced stickable download,

14:22that website, maybe my connection's not that good, but.

14:26No, sorry, you're going to take the information tube,

14:32like to see if you can find out the answers

14:34regarding the slash or the cash lines.

14:37Oh yes, that as well.

14:39Like again, I will be working with our

14:42Transportation Engineering Group to D

14:44to come up with a plan there.

14:47Perfect.

14:49So that being said, so Jordan has put up on the screen

14:54what we're looking at doing for the recommendation for Rich

14:58and the accessibility, the relocation

15:01for reconstruction of these simple parking spots locations.

15:05For their information regarding the locations,

15:07have the relocated in additional parking,

15:11accessible parking spots during construction

15:13along the windows street.

15:16Does anyone oppose?

15:21Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm going to go right a second there first.

15:24Oh, I did.

15:25Oh yeah, I knew that.

15:26I was just asking Jordan.

15:27Would you like to be a mover to accept?

15:33Sorry, to make a motion, sorry, make a motion.

15:39Yeah.

15:40Can I have, I'll get it, hold on.

15:43Not really.

15:44Can I get a mover to accept the recommendations on the screen?

15:48Yeah, thank you for all that.

15:50I've been talking way too long.

15:52Can I get a seconder for that?

15:54Thank you.

15:58Does anyone oppose?

16:00So I recommend the motions.

16:04Hearing and or seeing none.

16:08It's coming.

16:11Perfect.

16:12Red, thank you so much.

16:13Thank you very much for your time today.

16:16Committee.

16:17Excuse me.

16:18I just noticed there was a couple items of feedback that the

16:23committee discussed.

16:25I can display them on screen.

16:28If a member wanted to pass a motion, we can.

16:31It's not hard, but I just wanted to share that these were the two

16:35notes I got that there be a variety of accessible parking stalls

16:40that allows for access on the right or left of the vehicle.

16:44And secondly,

16:45but the city effectively communicate the locations of temporary

16:48spots in advance of relocation.

16:50And then.

16:51And ever spacing answer entries to prepare.

16:55Oh, so you have a question.

16:57Yes, I was just going to say for the second point that the city

17:04effectively communicate the location in advance.

17:07Is it possible to just add to that to say, you know,

17:11if you have access to that,

17:13you can add to that.

17:14But I think that if you want to add to that,

17:17you can add to that in more than one venue.

17:20Like Jen was saying,

17:21because sometimes putting it on one website,

17:24a lot of people may not have access to that or me it sometimes

17:28can be more difficult depending on.

17:30You know, how.

17:32You know, if they're able to get to that.

17:35Website is it in an accessible format, that type of thing.

17:38So, you know,

17:40you can add to that in a different location.

17:42I guess on social media.

17:44Not just on a website, but maybe.

17:47Social media blast.

17:49Other notifications so that they are accessible.

17:53To the people that are trying to access.

18:00Thank you.

18:01Through you, chair.

18:03With this wording,

18:05be acceptable that the city effectively communicate via

18:08multiple methods,

18:09locations in accessible formats.

18:11The locations of temporary parking spots.

18:16In advance of relocation.

18:18The little congee I apologize.

18:20I'm open to suggestions.

18:22I'm Jen.

18:24Cheryl.

18:25Sorry.

18:26I was just going to say, can we add in there that the city

18:30effectively communicate.

18:32Via multiple methods, locations in accessible formats.

18:35The locations of temporary.

18:42Thank you.

18:44I was going to say the exact same thing as Cheryl.

18:49Just talking about accessible formats.

18:51In part because.

18:53Some more formal websites and I.

18:57There are times I would say the city of Guelph would be among them

19:00when you go to the formal website.

19:02They may not be as.

19:04Quick.

19:05Sorry.

19:06If somebody has a learning disability and intellectual

19:09disability.

19:10Learning English as a second language.

19:12You might need to use the language.

19:14You might need to work your way down into whatever the point is,

19:18but that's where I was asking about the social media side.

19:21Because you can get right to the punch.

19:24In a very accessible manner.

19:26That's why I was thinking of that and not everyone knows how to go in.

19:29If it's.

19:30You have to click three times on the right links to get to the

19:33right.

19:34Digging diggable.

19:36Site my apologies.

19:37I didn't take down the name.

19:39I apologize.

19:40That's where I was thinking of it in the multiple formats.

19:43So yeah.

19:44In a long story short, I agree with Cheryl.

19:47And you put something to the effect of.

19:49Like so multiple methods and locations.

19:51Slash.

19:52Social media platforms.

19:54Toilet.

19:55That's his unit.

19:56Right.

19:57Sorry.

19:58Oh, that's right.

19:59Sorry.

20:00Yes.

20:05Through you, Mr. Chair.

20:06They.

20:07I.

20:08I'm concerned about the first bullet.

20:10The first bullet.

20:11I'm concerned about the first bullet.

20:13I'm concerned about the first bullet.

20:14I'm concerned about the first bullet.

20:16We may not be able to do that in all instances.

20:19I just.

20:20That.

20:21That's my point there.

20:23Because it is parallel parking along.

20:25Mac Donnell, which, you know, it's drive in, you get out in the left

20:29hand side.

20:30So, but we will explore it, but it's, it becomes a question of it.

20:34It just may not be.

20:35A possibility.

20:37Without some significant investment in, in construction costs that

20:41are.

20:42Again, maybe quite temporary measures.

20:44So that's why I'm working with our engineering.

20:46Traffic engineering folks to figure out what's the, the right way to do it.

20:49But I appreciate that feedback.

20:51Just want to clarify, just to clarify.

20:53I just wanted to clarify that, clarify that one point.

20:56Being a person who.

20:58Does have a sense of vehicle.

21:00My randomness committed the passenger side.

21:02So I'm not your, I can't care for, but I'm not your typical, you know,

21:06open the door, grab the wheelchair and you're good to go.

21:08Yeah.

21:09So I'd like to, I know there probably won't be anything that you've

21:12been able to do with the traffic engineering department will be able to

21:15do, but it's.

21:17Unfortunately, you guys can only do so much.

21:19I'm not sure.

21:20I'm not sure.

21:21I'm not sure.

21:22I'm not sure.

21:23I'm not sure.

21:24I'm not sure.

21:25I'm not sure.

21:26I mean, you guys can only do so much as the city.

21:29Then you have a variety of other people.

21:31Not being germs.

21:32So.

21:33Yeah.

21:34I don't want to lose that.

21:36Motion, though, range.

21:38Oh, I don't want to lose.

21:40Mr chair.

21:41I'm not asking for it to be removed.

21:43It's just a question that I that just may not be able to achieve it.

21:47In all instances.

21:48Okay.

21:49Yes.

21:50Yes I'm not, I'm not looking for it to be removed.

21:52No.

21:53I guess I'm wondering is the important part of this to make sure there's no furniture like like posts that type of thing on the passenger side of where the accessible parking is located.

22:03Yeah.

22:05Can you do that, Reg?

22:07Yes, of course, we would look for opportunities to line things up.

22:11For, you know, we, yeah, we don't want people up against, yeah, what we call street furniture.

22:17Yeah, like a poster, garbage can and stuff like that.

22:23Um, so Reg can work for a Reg hand committee. Would you be okay with that as a third point to Jordan's screen to house Gretch to look into not having street furniture.

22:37Um, the literal physical barrier.

22:41On the passenger side. Yes.

22:44Jumping in, I would support that certainly.

22:53Uh, and opened any other conversation. Sorry to make this more difficult possibly for you, Reg. Just thinking back to those parking spots that you're just talking about the four that are that we're looking to put in and going forward.

23:09Are there curb cuts close by? Like are people having go by four cars to get to the corner to get onto a sidewalk?

23:18Yeah, that's that's discussion I'm having with traffic engineering right now. What do we want to do to aid?

23:27To aid that and there are some curb, but I'm not, I don't know exactly where they are.

23:34Okay. His even if like, so then going back to the committee is this something where possible and I think you've already done this from what I can see that we'd recommend that accessible parking spots.

23:49Be close as possible to curb cuts where available.

23:57I'm also thinking of the winter. If somebody is trying to get through slush and snow out of their vehicle and then go past four cars to get to get over a slushy curb cut to get onto a sidewalk.

24:10It's not ideal. Opened a conversation on this from the committee.

24:19Yes, with the winter. We all know which was like last year.

24:24This keeps getting bigger.

24:28With the.

24:30I was raised, Reg.

24:32That's a great point. You know, with the curb cut out of the curb, the curb cuts.

24:38The other thing, it may not be as part of the list that Jordan's making, but Reg, do you have someone that is physically in a wheelchair that can go up with you to see what the traffic and engineering department are looking at?

24:53I do not, but I certainly would take volunteers.

24:59Anytime you can put it out there, that's always a good thing. So, um,

25:03Yeah, I think so.

25:05If it's okay with you, I'd like to be a part of that, Reg.

25:09Okay.

25:10I would just ask me, Leigh Ann or someone from accessibility to provide the contact that information to me.

25:17Okay. So I think Jordan is done type done typing and spell checking. So I think we want to add these four.

25:27Recommendations to reg. The first one.

25:32It's not, you know, it is what it is.

25:37Um, but so that the accessibility advisor community provide the following feedback on the witness reconstruction is accessible parking locations.

25:48Um, so the first one is going to be that there's a variety of parking accessible parking stalls that allow for access on the right or left the inside of the vehicle.

25:56You know, fingers crossed maybe that the city effectively communicate, communicate by multiple methods locations and social media platforms and accessible formats and the locations of temporary spots in advance of relocation.

26:12I don't know why there's a column of their blood there. Um, that there is no street furniture on the passenger side of vehicles obstructing the access.

26:21And that finally that accessible parking spots be as close as possible to curb cuts to curb cuts where possible.

26:30Does anyone on the committee have any other comments or.

26:35Um, additions to this.

26:40Recommendation.

26:44If knowledge heard, if not are seeing non hearing on.

26:47Um, can I have a person.

26:50A member to move the recommendations.

26:53Thanks.

27:00Can I have someone seconded.

27:05Perfect thing, Cheryl.

27:07Does anyone apply?

27:08Oh, God.

27:09Does anyone oppose the recommendations.

27:13And give me a new and then let's get that carried. Okay.

27:18Perfect.

27:19Thank you so much for everything that you've done today.

27:21Thank you very much committee.

27:23I think it was really good. So I was very interested in enjoying the weather.

27:27Okay, bye bye.

27:30Thank you for having me back.

27:40So what's moving on.

27:41To the transit network and design plan.

27:46Um, this is Laura.

27:47There's Laura was here in the last week was our last month position.

27:51Thank you for coming back again, Laura.

27:52Um,

27:53In Laura.

27:54You got the floor.

27:55Thank you so much.

27:57application. This is a little bit different and a little bit bigger. So I wanted to introduce you

28:02to what we're calling right now the Guelph Transit Network Design Plan. Eventually it will have a

28:09different name when it's actually being introduced, but in 2026 we are and have begun developing a new

28:17kind of transit network design plan. Ultimately within this plan we are reviewing the existing

28:24what's currently working, what needs improvement, refining the last five years of our future

28:29ready action plan. We are five of our 10-year plan currently and seeing what are some of the

28:36features that we should be keeping, which should we be enhancing as we continue, and we want to do

28:43a review of our on-demand and our mobility services. Our mobility service and within our future

28:50ready action plan, our 10-year network plan, mobility services is not included. There was a

28:56motion from council years ago to perform a route review and it mainly focused on conventional

29:02service and because of this our mobility service has not advanced as quickly as our conventional

29:09service has and so this plan, our goal is to reintroduce all of our three services together

29:17on-demand, mobility, and conventional as three unique different services that Guelph Transit

29:22provides that all you know include what an expansion can look like, what some of the challenges are

29:29in each of these different services we provide. And so today we would like to engage with you

29:36to help inform this plan. This is the introductory to your group. However we will be coming back

29:44later to discuss more especially when planning and different ideas are coming involved inside

29:52of this project. And so today in terms of our engagement we have a few questions. I am here,

29:59Laura, manager of Transit Network Design and Control Center. I will also introduce online

30:04Carissa Mattson who is my Transit Planning Specialist. She's going to be taking some notes

30:10for us while we are having our great conversation. And if we can go to the next slide, these are some

30:17of the questions that I'd like to talk with you. You can use your own personal experiences, experiences

30:23that you have through the people that you may work with, you know, or any circumstance that you'd

30:28like to share. And so we're looking for the accessibility advisory committee to help us

30:35you know, outline what are some of the biggest areas for improvement in our current network

30:40from an accessibility perspective. And that can be specifically for conventional, it can be using

30:46both on-demand and mobility. What are some of the barriers experienced when using our services?

30:53And are there any key destinations, medical, social, employment, or education, or other,

31:00that are difficult or possibly not even able to be reached today in our service?

31:05That would be of interest for an accessibility group. And the questions don't really have to

31:12end there. If you have other feedback, we're willing to accept that feedback today and gather that.

31:18And I think, you know, as we continue, we're looking for dedicated focus groups as well,

31:25with certain users within our network to better understand kind of needs and, you know, equity

31:31space throughout the city. And so that is my little introduction to you. At this time,

31:37floor is open for any feedback and, you know, answers that you may want to provide for our

31:42engagement questions. Thanks, Lauren and Karissa. Members, do we have any questions for,

31:52I don't know if it's okay to ask, but how many people know Henry, who knows someone who actually

32:00uses the mobility part of the well-transit system? Well, maybe you back in the floor. Okay, fine.

32:14Do you need more buses? Sorry, could we have more buses, please?

32:20On which service? Mobility.

32:24Mobility. Okay, so yes, we have definitely received feedback in terms of on like demand for that

32:32service. And so we can definitely, I'll take some notes today. And I'm sure Jordan will be doing

32:38a fantastic job of maybe some proposed motions as we go forward as well. Oh, nothing. I think

32:45I saw your hand up. Hi, it's Cathy. I was just wondering for the questions during the engagement,

32:56was anybody with lived experience a part of developing those questions? And I ask that because

33:04often questions are designed to gain back feedback, but people kind of take on a needs-based approach

33:14to development of a system like transit system. And often we forget, in terms of quality of life,

33:21away from that medical model to determine a social equitable quality of life. And so often,

33:27even myself, I always forget outside of like medical, educational, I never actually get to

33:33consider what I would like to do with my time because it's always need-based for my health and

33:39my education to actually just exist. But I want to imagine designing questions for an engagement

33:46to understand the transit system as a whole and like an equitable space to have everybody be able

33:53to access their desired experience for their life and kind of grow their goals bigger because I

33:59don't feel like you'll get an actual answer on how to create, even if there are barriers like funding

34:07or something, how to create an environment for all to access in like a really equitable space of

34:17their rights and their wants and their desires are equal to able-bodied people. And I feel like the

34:22design of the questions really have people internalize the questions and answer them very

34:28direct. But what if we could design the questions and the engagement experiences to think a little

34:33bit outside of that because then we're not just getting people to doctor's appointments, which is

34:38so important, but we're also getting them to their coffee shops to meet their friends because that's

34:42actually going to result in a higher quality of life. And there's so much research that talks

34:47about people thriving when they have such a social connection and they're able to see their loved ones

34:52and their families and try new hobbies. But if we don't recognize that in the system, then we won't

34:57be able to provide that. So I just think a lot of that can come in the right kind of question.

35:04Thank you for that, Kathy. So we're working with our engagement, community engagement group at the

35:10City of Guelph and within especially our focus groups. Each of those focus groups will be catered

35:17kind of questions for each of the different groups that we're working with and engagement is going

35:21to be helping kind of build those so that we can capture the right experience as you've outlined.

35:26You know, there's certain ways to kind of gather that information. I think today is really just a

35:32more of a higher level understanding and introduction on the topic. And I think that there's more,

35:40you know, engagement to come in terms of a more kind of focus into the needs,

35:46greatly more within each program itself, what that looks like, you know, where destinations are going.

35:53We're looking at all kinds of data also in what we're looking at for the review. So we're

35:58understanding, you know, where are people traveling right now by carpool or by a vehicle versus

36:05active transportation modes and all kinds of different ways to bring together how people

36:11are traveling within the city that may not only be using our service like taxi service and other

36:16services as well to help all kinds of, you know, people moving around Guelph. Our goal for, you

36:23know, overall the strategic plan is to make it easy for people to get around. And right now in

36:28transit, we're not as easily accessible as it can be for other modes within the city. And so I think

36:36as we move forward, you know, I appreciate your feedback in terms of the development. That's a

36:41little bit about how we'll be kind of developing our moves forward.

36:54Yeah, I think one of the key destinations that got to be taken into account is

37:01like Riverside Park. During Canada Day, the parking lots in the park were completely closed

37:09off to any traffic going through. So therefore any close accessible parking spots were cut off from

37:19a lot of people trying to attend. So if the things like that can be opened up to mobility services

37:28on special occasions, being able to take people into the park so they can get easier access,

37:38or allows people that have a handicapped tag on their front windshield be able to go

37:47into the park to access those. I think that's quite important because,

37:52you know, it makes a difference between existing and living and enjoying.

37:58Sure. Thank you very much for that feedback.

38:06Does anyone else have any other questions from Lauren?

38:15Yeah, I hate to answer a question with a question, but I would assume that

38:25you've received or your team has received feedback from users this year or in previous years. Have

38:33you seen any trends there from that data as well? And I totally agree. I recall, I believe there's a

38:40priority for medical appointments, but that social is a part of health as well. Just wondering

38:50first about what trends you've already seen in the data.

38:55Thanks. Yeah, so in 2025, we did a mobility services assessment. Within that, we engaged

39:04all of our direct users. So we have 520 unique users. Within that, we had over 120 of them

39:11actually respond to our survey, which was a great response. And within that, we were able to gauge

39:17their entire experience in the mobility service itself from how you found us and registered

39:23to how you book a trip, what your experience is on that ride of the trip, after the trip is done,

39:30and understanding all of the experiences that they currently have, some of our pain points

39:37already. And so from within that, we've seen identified so far for our mobility directly has

39:44been the booking windows. So right now, in order to book a ride on mobility services, you book

39:51it seven days in advance. That doesn't always work for everybody. And it doesn't provide a guarantee

39:58that on the same day booking, if you were to call us that you would be able to get a ride seven days

40:03in advance guarantees that ride. And so we find in our data from those groups is that the booking

40:09window of seven days is too long. Another barrier that they experience is their ride and comfortability

40:16within our vehicles. And so from that, you know, we've worked with fleet services, ordering new

40:23vehicles, and kind of working with that data to help us inform our future fleet. Within mobility

40:30as well, we had feedback on how many users were in the app versus using us in dispatch, how convenient

40:39were our dispatch hours for them, and what that looks like, because right now we do not have,

40:45we have availability in the app 24 hours a day, our dispatch is a limited throughout, approximately

40:5220 hours, sorry, little less apologies, these 16 hours in a day that you can call and contact

41:00someone with us. And so some of the barriers as well has been the demand. And so I didn't catch

41:09who made the comments earlier about adding mobility vehicles, but demand is a big part.

41:15Right now, we're only able to service around, or we're missing 35% of ride demand. So that means

41:2635% more rides are being attempted to be booked, and there are no available rides to service them.

41:32And so within that, there are times that we will outsource to our taxi overflow, which also has

41:39accessibility vehicles that allows for us to do that. However, we aren't always able to, in terms of

41:48how close it is, and we understand that there's a gap in terms of meeting current demand. And so

41:54we already have some ideas for our mobility service on ways that we can better support our

42:00existing users. In terms of our conventional network, we've done a review and planning program.

42:06Once a month, we select a new route in the city that has a problem. Could be passenger overloads

42:13or on-time performance. And we review everything about that route for a month. We speak with

42:18customers. We speak with the operators who drive that route and gather data. And we sit down and

42:22we analyze all of it. And from that, we've been able to garner a lot of conversation around

42:28barriers that are experienced on these specific routes. And I think as we move into the summer,

42:34this will expand into speaking in a heavier say or other ways our engagement plan will inform on

42:41how to speak to our regular users about current day barriers, whether that's also language,

42:47the frequency of route and their access to their sole transit use, for example,

42:53and trying to use all of that together. So some information we do know right now, and it's helping

42:57us kind of inform the questions we're going to ask and the way we're going to move forward.

43:02And some of it, we're still waiting to hear from everybody in terms of, you know, what are the

43:06ways that they feel we need to improve our reliability or our network for them or accessibility

43:12into our services and what that looks like. And I think identifying key destinations, you know,

43:19you've said it and you're so right. Social is included in our list of those key destinations.

43:24So those coffee shops at the end of the night that you can't get a ride back from or, you know,

43:31a social event like Bingo Night that you can't currently get a subscription ride for. And so

43:37in mobility, we're able to subscribe medical appointments right now into our service. But

43:42if you wanted to go to Bingo each week, you have to call us each week in order to get your Bingo

43:46time. And so as we move forward, we're looking to also expand subscriptions into other types of

43:53users within our group that allows, you know, and we're going to analyze, we're already kind of

43:58hidden subscriptions where we have people who call us every week and how we can better support them.

44:04So big answer, Jen. But I hope that that helped kind of explain a little bit for you,

44:09some of our goals as we go forward. Thank you so much. And already it's making me think of

44:17six other questions. No, it's great. And you're absolutely right. Booking seven days out to me,

44:26one 35% my brain kind of froze on that thinking, pardon, what, because that those are a lot of

44:33rides and mobility for some folks, that is their only option. So to miss out on a third or more

44:42of your life or what you need to do to get around that, that's challenging. So another thing that

44:51we experience also on mobility is a very high rate of cancellations. So when we look at our total

44:57number of rides that have been booked, a lot of times when people are missing demand as well,

45:02it's because people have canceled a ride last minute, because our demand is so high, what they'll

45:08do is they will book three trips home, because they don't know when they're going to leave Bingo.

45:14And so what ends up happening is they've taken two other rides for another person, because

45:19we don't have enough service out there to guarantee that they'll get home when they want.

45:23And so what ends up happening is those two trips canceled, people may have tried to book in there.

45:28And so when we balance our cancellation rate with our demand percentage, they are definitely linked.

45:34So we're also looking at ways that we can educate our users on canceling or using just the rides

45:40that they need, while also kind of matching service to what they need today, so that they don't have

45:45to do those kind of last minute cancellations in the system. Thank you. And I think of memory

45:51serves, and I do want other committee members to be able to chat here too, is if someone cancels

45:59a number of times, does it work against them? Like could they be dropped or they're

46:05de-prioritized on a list? Because from where I've worked, that was a factor. No matter what,

46:12you had to make sure you've got your mobility bus on time so that you didn't lose your spot.

46:20Right. Yeah. So right now, we do not have a policy that would remove you, rank you differently.

46:27There are different comparators that we've looked at. There's where they use automatic booking

46:33limitations. So once you hit 10 last minute cancellations, you're able to only book one

46:39outgoing and one returning trip at a time, and you have to complete that. Or another system we

46:46looked into last year, they actually charge you the fair cost of your last minute cancellation.

46:55And so that, I think, is part of what we look at when we go forward. The plan may not identify

47:01what action the cancellation policy will look like, but to more inform a formal policy should be made,

47:07where that may come with further engagement on is removing fair, equitable versus having maybe

47:15an automatic booking limitation program to kind of help with those who are kind of abusing the

47:21system more than others who are using it to how it's intended. Right. Okay. And I guess the only

47:28other thing I would throw in talking about making last minute adjustment so I could see someone,

47:34perhaps not for bingo, but for work, giving three pickup times because their work will often ask

47:42them to stay later, then or they want to appear flexible like everyone else on their team,

47:50that they can stay a little bit later because somebody else hasn't shown up on time or whatever,

47:54and instead they could be losing out on overtime, they could be losing out on extra funds, they're

47:59not going to frankly, what I've seen is some folks might not get the opportunity to get the

48:05high evaluation at the end of the year because they shouldn't, couldn't show that flexible attitude

48:10that they could stick it out and stick it in, but it wasn't their lack of engagement or willingness,

48:17it was they were stuck with that, that vehicle because if they missed that, they were going to

48:24have a problem. Anyway, I'll let the other folks speak, but I like it. Thank you very much for

48:31the conversation. Thank you, Jen. Thanks, John. Oh, Kathy, I thought you heard your hand up.

48:37Yeah, I did. Thank you. Sorry, I was just also going to talk a little bit about what that last

48:41comment was. Often with accessibility and access, we rarely ever recognize that the system itself

48:50is the barrier, and there's many barriers within that. So suggesting that the people with disabilities

48:56are the ones abusing the system and the system is not, is accessible, let's, I strongly recognize.

49:02Oh, no, and that's not what I had said. I had said our demand isn't meeting their needs, and so they're

49:08having to do this in our system because we're not meeting their needs. So I want to make that clear,

49:14like our services aren't matching their needs, they're not abusing it because they're choosing to,

49:19it's a necessity for some of their needs because our system can provide them what they need in

49:24terms of their booking windows and their same day demand and the guarantee of a ride home. So,

49:30yeah, I just want to clear that up, Kathy, just in case. Okay, yeah, no, I, thank you.

49:38And Cheryl, I'm here to be your guest. Hi, yes. No, thank you, Laura, for the conversation on the

49:46roof. You know, a lot of good points from everyone has been raised. I just wanted to kind of echo

49:52on, and it looks like you're looking to address some of these barriers, as, you know, everyone has

49:59already said, but I know other committees and, and, you know, myself and, and, and other people who

50:06access these types of services, they've spoken to a lot of the same concerns are usually raised just

50:11about, you know, being able to access for same day medical appointments, changes in appointments,

50:17sometimes, especially with medical appointments, you may not always have,

50:23you know, the option of if the office calls and needs to switch or doctors running late or something

50:28like that or something pops up. So, you know, having that flexibility, especially for some people

50:34with disabilities is really, really important. And sometimes flexibility is the accommodation. So,

50:40having that in systems really does help to minimize barriers. And, you know, another point, too, is

50:48just about, you know, the accessibility of accessing services. So, you know, having difficulty

50:55making these calls or booking things or accessing, you know, the forms or things online. And I know

51:02a lot of issues have been raised about that, about some of these intake processes where

51:09it's very medicalized and there's, you know, concerns about what needs to be provided, how to

51:15access the, and, you know, what types of information is being asked or things that are requirements

51:23that are being asked as well. So, I think looking at all of these things might be, you know, beneficial.

51:30Thank you for that, Cheryl.

51:35That's me. So, I have received comments from two people that aren't here today. And so,

51:43benches at all bus stops was one of them. And actually, no, that was Colleen's comment earlier.

51:50And that's who it was. And you are here today. And the other one was,

51:57in a conversation, an idea came up there, is everybody on the ADC familiar with the

52:02conventional bus and the mobility bus and what they're actually like. And would it be worth

52:10having one of each at City Hall for a coordinated meeting so people can see what they're all about?

52:23I have no idea. So, that was one of the things that was asked, because not everybody has taken

52:27mobility and not everybody has taken conventional buses. What do you, what does the committee think?

52:35Would you benefit from seeing a bus and then maybe I'll ask Laura if that is even feasible?

52:44Is there a benefit or a story between the conventional mobility and the old man?

52:49And you know, when I was competing, you know, when I was two, two inside,

52:54taking one to see what it's like. Can you repeat that one more time? Sorry, I didn't hear that.

53:03An opportunity to go in to see, like, go on to one of the buses to see what it's like.

53:08Is there an open house that would be offered or is this something that maybe we would have

53:13very specific at the ADC? I think it would have to be specific for AAC before we've brought our

53:20vehicles to public works, open house, but this year I do not believe we are bringing vehicles to

53:26participate. Guelph-Train is just doing a booth. So, we would have to organize to have two of the

53:33vehicles brought for an AAC special event. Do you think the members would, would this be something

53:45valuable for the members of the committee to look into? Members? Like, I know Colleen, we know, takes

53:54mobility transit. I don't think there are bus. I think there are bus. So, do you think there'd be

54:00more hands-on, hands-on, hands-on approach to see what it's like? I assume it won't be moving.

54:06Like, it would be, right, like it would just be stationary.

54:10Could that be something that we can look into, Laura, maybe?

54:16Yeah, we can look into it if it's of interest of the AAC. I would say in terms of the scope within

54:21our network design, we, like certain elements, we wouldn't be able to action, let's say. We'd be able

54:29to accept that feedback and maybe provide, and I'll give you an example. So, fleet services

54:36within Guelph Transit, the coordination of fleet, the ordering of vehicles, is actually completed

54:42through public works operations. And within that team, they are responsible for selecting the

54:48vehicles, ordering them, bringing them in, and then we are the final user of those vehicles. And so,

54:53certain elements, I would be able to bring forward to them in the next round of ordering,

54:58based on possibly feedback we received from seeing the vehicle and inside.

55:04Set up of certain accessible items would also be through fleet. However, certain things when it

55:11comes to using those vehicles in our network and around our city, that would be the type of scope

55:18that we would be looking for more in general in terms of we're looking to create a plan that we

55:23can expand our existing, you know, services to the public to provide greater accessibility,

55:30greater equity, greater inclusion and mobility around the city for all of our residents.

55:38Or guests, for that matter. But we could definitely organize that, if that's something that is of

55:46interest. That's one of the recommendations.

55:54Laura, before you go, before we wrap this up, can you go back to the last screen or the last

56:02last slide?

56:08It was the engagement, it was the 10-year, not that one. It was the first page of Laura's

56:15private meeting.

56:15Sorry, I'm sorry.

56:16We should really get that on the reaction.

56:18There we go.

56:19We can share it.

56:20Do you have it up, Jordan?

56:21Yes, I'm just going to tell you.

56:22Sorry, it's a little rice.

56:23It won't put me on the spot.

56:25I was going to ask a question.

56:26Are we going to talk about bus stops, the benches and bus stops?

56:32I think we'll add that to the motions.

56:35Okay.

56:35Because obviously, Colleen, that was a huge, like, we need bus stops at 99.9% of the

56:44benches at the bus stops, right?

56:46They don't.

56:47No, they don't, but we don't need that, right?

56:48Like, that's something that we do need.

56:51Okay.

56:53Sorry, I thought we were going to talk about it first.

56:56You still can't go.

56:57No, I'm not going.

56:58So, Laura, you being the manager of the WellTrain, the Transit Design Network,

57:06do you see any changes to the seven-day,

57:10or sorry, going in the future, do you see any changes to the seven-day

57:15pre-booking changing at all?

57:19I think so.

57:22We still need to look through our data and to, we want to revisit our engagement data that we

57:28had collected as well along with just our booking data.

57:31But yes, I think that we would be looking to reduce the number of days from seven,

57:37possibly phasing it through a plan, possibly down to three days, two days, etc., until it could

57:44eventually become a same-day bookable service, depending on what that looks like.

57:49Now, whether that is in the upcoming plan in terms of getting to same-day or a phasing to get there,

57:56that would depend on the extent also in terms of budget and how much that would be

58:04presented in the multi-year.

58:06So, the intention is for the report to be completed, to be able to go to council in the

58:12spring of 2027.

58:15And then the multi-year budget is reviewed in the fall of 2027.

58:19And so, this could become part of the next four-year budgeting.

58:25Getting back to Colleen's point, we probably should have it on record, even though Leanne asked that.

58:33But what are the thoughts on having benches or shelters?

58:41Like somewhere where a person can sit down, not sure, not majority, but have a number of people.

58:51What I was wondering is not shelters, we have enough shelters, but if we had benches at every bus stop,

58:58that doesn't have a shelter.

59:01Because there's people that are using it, they're seniors, they can't stand for 20 minutes,

59:08they can't stand for an hour.

59:10Myself, I have severe back issues and sciatic issues and breathing issues.

59:19I mean, for me to stand for 20 minutes is excruciating, but if we could have benches,

59:25and you don't have to have expensive ones, get the cheap ones that are durable, but they're cheap.

59:31You don't have to spend.

59:34You don't have to have the Cadillac version.

59:38You can have the Chetger version.

59:42I don't even know if they're made chargers, anyone.

59:44But anyways, you got the hint that what I'm saying is just a basic bench at each bus stop would be

59:53astronomical.

59:56Thank you, Colleen.

59:58We have a certain budget each year that we're able to put towards concrete pads,

1:00:04installed shelters, replacement of shelters along with we tried a prototype pull with a bench

1:00:13connected into it last year at three select bus stops.

1:00:18And so the benches themselves, we have a contract through Creative Outdoor to place

1:00:26some of the benches that you see throughout the city with the advertising on it.

1:00:31Really, it comes down to some of the service standards we've identified in our future ready

1:00:36action plan. So in terms of every bus stop and priority, we may not be able to get to each.

1:00:42And so we prioritize it in the number of boardings we have and we rank them.

1:00:48So the highest number of people that are waiting are the ones that are able to get it.

1:00:53And many sometimes don't have the space for a bench that still makes the stop safe and accessible.

1:01:00And so some of that is a bit of the road design that's happened,

1:01:04you know, the street design through the years in Guelph. We see, you know, newer developments

1:01:09really accounting for this as we've created something in the city called the Complete

1:01:13Streets Design Guide. And that helps outline all the different roadways and how we apply that,

1:01:20what that looks like when we go to redo a roadway or really create a new neighborhood.

1:01:27But in some of our existing neighborhoods, we have very slim right away on some of our roads.

1:01:34You know, one stop that always comes to mind for me is on Delhi. It's a very skinny sidewalk with

1:01:41a very skinny boulevard. We do not own the grass on the other side of it, closest to Aramosa on

1:01:47Delhi. And so there's an example where it's not always feasible to place an amenity. But we can

1:01:54note of the request to have more and look into what that feasibility looks like.

1:02:00We would just have to really work with Creative Outdoor in order to possibly put on more than

1:02:05we do in a typical year currently and work with them as our partner in that. But we can definitely

1:02:12each year, based on our multi-year budget, we've been provided for the shelters.

1:02:17And so we continue to install those each year in new location in terms of how they meet our

1:02:23service standards. So thank you for that point Colleen. It is well taken.

1:02:28Do you have to use those big monstrosity brown benches? Can you not just use the cement with the wood?

1:02:42So we would have to look into that right now in terms of Creative Outdoors inventory. They do not

1:02:47have that style that you're chatting about. Creative Outdoor benches are at no cost to the

1:02:54city to install. So if we were to change the style of bench to be slimmer, we would just need to plan

1:02:59that within our budget allotment, which would also shift what that looks like for our shelters,

1:03:04our pads, etc. But we could work. There are different designs with Creative Outdoor because

1:03:12their benches sometimes they select the type, but we are able to put in maybe a special request

1:03:17in certain cases. We have a bench on Grange, close to, I can't remember the biggest cross

1:03:25street close to it is Starwood. And there's a very kind of slimmer metal style bench with a back

1:03:31plate that has advertising. So I know they do have certain options available to them that aren't as big

1:03:38as those you are right, the ones with the garbage built in and they're like very triangular.

1:03:43That's also the older model that they used to have. So we're going to see less and less of those

1:03:48as they continue to upgrade their inventory as well. Thank you.

1:04:01Appreciate that. I realized I didn't know if I looked impatient by keeping it up.

1:04:06Just two quick questions. I think you were talking before, Laura, about

1:04:15possibly getting new vehicles in or maybe I was hoping. But when looking at that at the plan,

1:04:22again, I'm going back to and I know you're doing the cancellations as well, people who aren't able

1:04:27to get rides, understanding that if you're looking at a longer term plan, is it also taking into

1:04:33account that we have an aging population and that demand could increase? Yes. So that is part of our

1:04:40plan. We're looking, there's a strategic growth document report that was put out by planning in

1:04:472022. And it speaks to the age percentage in certain brackets and what their percentage of growth is

1:04:54in the city. So not only are we looking in our plan, build for demand, build for future demand as

1:04:59well based on our age and our growing population in Guelph. Awesome. Thank you. No problem.

1:05:08Does anyone else have a big question for Laura?

1:05:12That's very good. We're seeing none. I think Jordan has a big screen full of recommendations.

1:05:22I bet he does. Good job, Jordan.

1:05:25Oh,

1:05:33through you, chair. These are some of the notes that I've captured during the discussion.

1:05:39If I've missed something, you want something removed or the word unchanged, please let me know.

1:05:45Chairman, would you like me to read them out? Okay.

1:05:50The motion is that the Accessibility Advisory Committee provide the following feedback on the

1:05:56Transit Network Design Plan from an accessibility perspective. That transit expand mobility transit,

1:06:02oh sorry, that staff expand mobility transit service. That staff design an engagement experience

1:06:08that allows for more open-ended discussion leading to a better overall transit experience.

1:06:15That when parking lots are closed during spectral events, example, Canada Day at Riverside Park,

1:06:20that these lots be opened to accessible services and to allow for use of accessible parking stalls.

1:06:28That staff note that the lack of flexibility in the booking system poses a barrier to accessibility.

1:06:35That the current booking system is over medicalized, that there be benches at every bus stop,

1:06:41and that staff consider hosting a transit open house for members of the public to see the variety of transit vehicles.

1:06:49What is over medicalized people?

1:06:54Perhaps the member that was speaking.

1:06:57Oh, sorry, Chairman, was it Chairman?

1:07:01I'm assuming it's still the same situation as it has been for some time that if there are multiple

1:07:08requests coming in, I'm making it up on the spot as an example. For the same time,

1:07:13the ones for medical appointments would get first priority.

1:07:16Let me know if that's off to Mark.

1:07:19Yes. If we have a medical appointment need, they would take priority to get them to that appointment.

1:07:29Yes. Hi, Cheryl. I think that point just got confused. I think we could probably take that.

1:07:35It was more of a comment to say that, and I think we addressed some of that when we were looking at

1:07:42the form and some of the feedback that we provided about the form itself.

1:07:47Like the actual admission into being a member of the service. It's like the process of application.

1:07:55Gotcha. Correct. Yeah. I think that if the rest of the committee is okay with that,

1:08:02I think that that's something that maybe we could just remove that.

1:08:07Jordan is already on the ball, so he's already removed things.

1:08:11He's good like that.

1:08:13Okay. Okay.

1:08:14All right. Bear with me.

1:08:15Thank you.

1:08:16Anyone have any other comments or changes regarding to what Jordan had typed out?

1:08:27Have everyone something to say with this?

1:08:29Can I possibly get a member to approve?

1:08:33Excuse me. We also had a received version. I don't know if you wanted to

1:08:37think together or something.

1:08:43Just that they received the information.

1:08:45Oh, we have that.

1:08:46Yeah. We have received it for a second.

1:08:49Okay. So as Jordan noted on the screen, he's showing that we received the information,

1:08:55which we've done because Laura's here.

1:08:57So can we do it both on the same mover and seconder?

1:09:03So that being said, can I get a mover for our recommendations?

1:09:08Can the receiver or the seconder?

1:09:12Yeah. And the seconder, the two motions. Thank you.

1:09:20Oh, I'll motion it.

1:09:22Okay. Dean, can I get a seconder?

1:09:24Colleen, thank you.

1:09:26Has anyone objected or don't like it or what have you?

1:09:30I'm hearing no objections.

1:09:34Has been carried.

1:09:36Laura, thank you so much for attending for the second time in a row.

1:09:42I think that we all have experience with the transit system.

1:09:48So hopefully we can make it

1:09:51good or better for everyone involved.

1:09:53And Sheryl is here.

1:09:58Yes, sorry. I just wanted to thank Laura.

1:10:01You've come back a few times now and listened to all of our suggestions and comments and

1:10:07have been very open in engaging with feedback.

1:10:09And I just wanted to say thank you.

1:10:11All of the conversations have been great.

1:10:14So thank you again.

1:10:15Thank you very much, Sheryl.

1:10:16And I look forward to coming back to speak with you all as we keep moving through our journey

1:10:20of looking at our network and our design and our mobility service.

1:10:25You're going to be an integral part of that as we continue.

1:10:29Thank you so much for your time today.

1:10:31Have a great rest of your day.

1:10:33Bye, Laura. Thank you.

1:10:34Bye-bye.

1:10:35Thank you. Bye.

1:10:38Okay. Okay.

1:10:40So do we have any announcements?

1:10:42Yes.

1:10:44Dear Chair, we have one staff announcement.

1:10:47It is a follow-up on the traffic common policy update.

1:10:54So this item was originally discussed at the Accessibility Advisory Committee

1:10:59on January 20th, 2026.

1:11:02This item then went to the Committee of the Whole on April 7th, 2026.

1:11:09The Committee of the Whole is comprised of all members of Council

1:11:13who fully participate in debate and then forward their recommendations

1:11:18to Council meetings at the end of the month for final decision.

1:11:22Essentially, Committee of the Whole is where the Councillors need to discuss

1:11:27and the Council meeting at the end of the month is where they vote on a final decision.

1:11:32So during the April 7th Committee of the Whole meeting,

1:11:36the Committee raised questions regarding previous AAC recommendations related to this item.

1:11:44Going forward, where relevant, staff will include historical AAC motions in their reports

1:11:50to provide you with additional background for your reference.

1:11:53Lastly, this item is now going to Council.

1:11:57It's going to the Council meeting that's tonight at 6 p.m.

1:12:00If you're interested, you can come to City Hall and watch it in Council chambers

1:12:05or you can tune in at gwellth.ca.slashlive.

1:12:11Our Vice Chair, Dean Martin, will be attending that meeting

1:12:15and be speaking on behalf of this Committee to answer any questions from Council.

1:12:21Are there any questions for me regarding this update?

1:12:30It was never, well, it was no historical meetings never done in the past.

1:12:37If you know, you may not know.

1:12:40Sorry, Chair, I cannot provide, I can't say why it wasn't included.

1:12:46And all I can say is that at the most recent Committee meeting

1:12:50was determined that would be useful for a member of knowledge.

1:12:53And so we are now including it going forward.

1:12:55Great.

1:12:59Dean, thank you so much for speaking tonight.

1:13:04I think there was an motion, sorry, I think there was discussions about

1:13:09why AAC had come up with the traffic calming recommendations that we did.

1:13:16So hopefully, we'll get the case closed a bit more.

1:13:24Yeah, I believe they just wanted some additional background

1:13:28in the discussion that happened at that meeting.

1:13:32So, you rocked the, thank you.

1:13:39Is that it for the?

1:13:40Yes, that concludes these staff announcements.

1:13:42Thank you, Chair.

1:13:43I think it's bigger than that.

1:13:46All right, so, wow, we got lots of time.

1:13:53Because I think you'll do as I come.

1:13:54No, why?

1:13:55I don't know.

1:13:56No, thank you.

1:13:56No, okay.

1:14:00So, while that being said, it is 4.19, I'll bring it out here.

1:14:08I would like to see, make a recommendation to have the meeting adjourned.

1:14:15Wait, before we do that, yeah, before we do that, our next meeting.

1:14:19He's meeting late, which is the Tuesday.

1:14:22Who knew?

1:14:23Had three Peter there up with that.

1:14:27And I have a mover to adjourn this meeting and enjoy the good weather.

1:14:31I'll leave.

1:14:32Hopefully, the weather's nice, but I don't know how you said that.

1:14:34Can I have a seconder?

1:14:36I'll second it.

1:14:37Perfect.

1:14:38Well, it's three of my time.

1:14:39Thanks, Dean.

1:14:40Thanks, Chair.

1:14:40Thanks, Chair.

1:14:41You're the team with the money.

1:14:44And if that's everything, thanks for the meeting.

1:14:49And team, you will represent the AAC well tonight.

1:14:54And I'll see everyone next month.

1:14:56Thank you.

1:14:57Thank you.

1:14:57I'm sorry.

1:14:58Have a good night, everyone.

1:15:00Thank you.

1:15:00Thank you.

1:15:01Thank you.

1:15:02Thank you.

1:15:02We have to go.

1:15:03We have to go.

1:15:03We have to go.

1:15:04We know.

1:15:04Okay.

1:15:05Okay.

1:15:06Thanks, everyone.