Transportation Advisory Committee

1:15Test test 123.

1:17Test test 123 can.

1:20We can hear you.

1:21We can hear you.

1:23We still did that stuff.

1:26Oh, OK.

1:27Disclosure.

1:30OK, so I'm just going to go through one more time.

1:34The disclosure, pecuniary interest,

1:40if anyone has any, anyone has anything to declare,

1:47doesn't seem that way.

1:48OK.

1:49So we're just going to go back to approving the minutes.

1:53So would anyone like to approve the minutes?

1:56OK.

1:56Anyone like to second the minutes?

2:07OK, Joel.

2:15Oh, yes.

2:16All in favor?

2:19Anyone against?

2:25So that carries.

2:29OK.

2:30So we have MIDI items.

2:37So I'm going to start with the updated traffic calming policy.

2:41And I'm going to head over to Nico for his presentation.

3:19OK.

3:20Hello, everyone.

3:21Everyone online, everyone in person here.

3:24Hope you're enjoying the weather.

3:27So I'm Nico Koenig.

3:28I'm the Transportation Safety Specialist with Engineering

3:31and Transportation Services.

3:33And I'm going to be telling you about the traffic calming

3:36policy update today.

3:40And just as a reminder that we met about the traffic calming

3:43policy back in October together.

3:46And I got your feedback.

3:48And so I'll be speaking to that feedback as well.

3:50And I'll be seeking your endorsement

3:52on some overarching policy directions

3:55that we're pursuing for updating the traffic calming policy.

4:00So I'm going to be going through this presentation, which

4:04was shared to you previously.

4:06And also, I'm going to be speaking to some issues

4:09that I share with you through a supplemental report, which

4:12details some of this more of the information

4:14that I presented in a bit more detail.

4:17So why are we here?

4:19Well, the traffic calming policy was approved

4:22and was meant to be reviewed with public consultation in 2025.

4:28Also, that was a motion captured by Council in July 2020.

4:33It also was listed as part of the Vision Zero Action Plan.

4:37It was meant to be reviewed and updated

4:40according to the Vision Zero Action Plan.

4:42So that's just a little bit of background

4:43about why we're here or here because of Council direction

4:46to do so.

4:49So just a review about the traffic calming policy.

4:52The traffic calming policy responds

4:54to residents' traffic concerns by establishing traffic calming

4:57measures on local and collector roads

5:00when validated by a traffic calming review and prioritization

5:03process.

5:04The stated goals of the traffic calming policy

5:06are to improve public safety for all road users,

5:10to encourage roadways to function as intended,

5:12and to encourage active transportation through infrastructure

5:16safety modifications.

5:19So just as a reminder as well, we covered this last time.

5:22Vision Zero, it was endorsed by City of Guelph in 2022.

5:28Vision Zero is a road safety strategy

5:30founded on the belief that no loss of life is acceptable

5:34and that deaths and serious injuries are preventable.

5:37Vision Zero is guided by what's known the Safe System

5:40approach, which aims to prevent serious injuries and deaths

5:44from occurring by designing Safe Streets to make

5:48the transportation system safe for all road users.

5:51Again, according to the Vision Zero Action Plan, which

5:54was approved last year in 2025, one of its 68 Vision Zero

5:58actions is to review and update traffic calming policy.

6:03The Safe System approach requires safe speeds

6:07to ensure that if a collision were to happen,

6:10the impact would never lead to a serious injury or death.

6:13Higher vehicle speeds increase reaction distances

6:16and braking distances, which lowers the survival rates

6:19of those involved in collision.

6:20For example, if a person walking is struck by a person

6:23driving a vehicle at 30 kilometers per hour,

6:27they have a 90% chance of survival.

6:29If the vehicle is moving at 50 kilometers per hour,

6:32the survival rate of the person walking drops dramatically

6:35to 15%.

6:37One effective strategy for creating safe speeds

6:41is installing traffic calming measures.

6:43This is what we're trying to do with traffic calming policy.

6:45We're trying to calm the traffic to save lives,

6:49slow people down to save lives.

6:51That's what Vision Zero is about.

6:54So just a reminder, we came to you on October 16th,

6:58and you provided us feedback.

6:59You shared seven points with us regarding the traffic calming

7:03policy.

7:04And at the end of this presentation,

7:06I'll be responding to each of those points.

7:07But here they are again.

7:09I'm not going to review them in detail,

7:10but I'll be speaking to them shortly.

7:12So you have one, two, three, and the numbers aren't right here.

7:14Four, five, six, seven.

7:17We'll talk about them in a moment.

7:19So since I last saw you, some changes have occurred.

7:23The province of Ontario, through the Building

7:25More Competitive Economy Act, eliminated the use

7:31of municipal automated speed enforcement,

7:34ASC cameras across the province on November 14th, 2025.

7:39The province created an interim funding

7:41for effective municipalities for the, quote,

7:44implementation of traffic calming measures,

7:46such as speed bumps, raised crossings, roundabouts,

7:50et cetera, at former ASC sites, which

7:53is required to be spent by March 31st, 2028.

7:59The city agreed to receive some of this funding,

8:02or this funding specifically, of $676,904

8:06provided by the province for traffic calming initiatives.

8:11There are 36 locations in Guelph where

8:14the provincial funding funded traffic calming measures

8:17can be installed, representing all former ASC locations

8:21and previously designated community safety zones.

8:25Funding cannot be applied in newly designated community

8:28safety zones.

8:29Those created through the city of Guelph's community safety

8:31zone policy, such as hospitals or post-secondary educational

8:35institutions, as these zones had not yet

8:37hosted an ASC camera.

8:39So basically, the funding was meant

8:41to just go on where ASC cameras were before.

8:44That's where they are allowed to go.

8:48Since we last met as well, we had a, what we are calling,

8:53a civic circle.

8:54We organized a civic circle.

8:55Strategic Communications and Community Engagement

8:58initiated a community engagement effort called

9:00the Traffic Calming Policy Civic Circle,

9:02or what I'm calling just simply the Civic Circle,

9:05in last November and December 2025.

9:08The purpose of the Civic Circle was

9:10to serve as a forum for in-depth discussion of traffic calming

9:14issues and opportunities, work towards shared understanding

9:17of diverse needs of road users and inform engineering

9:21transportation services, staff direction for updating

9:24the traffic calming policy.

9:25That's a picture, by the way, of the Civic Circle,

9:27if you're wondering.

9:29The Civic Circle was made up of 15 people

9:31who live in Guelph, representing all wards,

9:34diverse primary transportation modes,

9:36and varied lived experiences.

9:38The Civic Circle met four times to review and discuss

9:41traffic calming approaches with presentations

9:43from engineering transportation services

9:46and traffic calming practitioners who work

9:49with other Ontario and Canadian municipalities.

9:52Civic Circle members were asked to come to a consensus

9:55on recommendations which would guide

9:57engineering transportation services staff

9:59when updating the traffic calming policy

10:01in ways that aligned with Vision Zero

10:03and the Safe System approach.

10:07Civic Circle members unanimously favor

10:10a traffic calming policy which, and I'll read these off,

10:12prioritized the installation of traffic calming measures

10:16within designated community safety zones

10:18with either less or no community engagement conducted.

10:23They favor a traffic calming policy

10:24which groups all outstanding requests

10:27and review them together at a neighborhood level

10:29subject to the community safety zone prioritization.

10:33And they favor a traffic calming policy

10:34which utilizes effective traffic calming measures

10:37for reducing vehicle speeds and preventing collisions

10:40over maintaining maximum convenience for drivers,

10:44minimizing travel time, and avoiding discomfort

10:47for passengers.

10:50This approach, so the full list of traffic calming measures,

10:59it was shared with you previously,

11:02which I recommend if you haven't already looked at it.

11:06And their full list of recommendations

11:09will also be shared publicly

11:10and shared to City Council as well.

11:13So I think you already have the full list,

11:15but I just did a summary of that for your information.

11:19Okay, challenges and recommendations.

11:22So I'm not gonna go too deep tail into this,

11:26but recognizing many of these challenges

11:28were presented to you in our last presentation in October,

11:31but I'm happy to follow up.

11:32You have questions about each one of these.

11:34So I'll talk about each challenge

11:36that we saw collectively when looking at this,

11:39and we're also considered through our engagement process

11:42through the public and also internal stakeholders,

11:44and then I'll introduce some recommendations.

11:47And these recommendations are what

11:49engineering transportation services are going to pursue

11:52when we're updating our traffic calming policy.

11:54Okay, challenge number one.

11:59Engineering transportation services staff

12:02limited the use of vertical measures.

12:04Remember, those are speed cushions or speed humps.

12:08They limited the use of vertical measures

12:10in the traffic calming policy to accommodate a concern

12:13shared by the Accessibility Advisory Committee.

12:17This note is not on the slide,

12:18but I'll explain it quickly.

12:21That ETS staff, Engineering Transportation Services staff

12:24found that the impact of limited vertical measures

12:27for reducing vehicle speeds was minimal.

12:30So in our whole analysis, we saw that their impact

12:33worked a little bit, but the impact was minimal.

12:36To the second point here,

12:38Engineering Transportation Services staff

12:40were unable to find evidence to suggest

12:43that the city of Guelph should deviate

12:44from Ontario municipal traffic calming policies

12:47or national and international guidelines

12:49regarding the use and application of vertical measures.

12:52So that's the first challenge that we're dealing with.

12:55And we have our recommendation here for you to consider.

13:00The traffic calming policies,

13:01this is what our recommendation is,

13:03will incorporate the most effective traffic calming measures

13:06for reducing vehicle speeds

13:08as part of its traffic calming measures.

13:12Vertical measures, namely raised crossings

13:14and speed cushions will follow the recommended designs

13:17and spacing for effectively reducing vehicle speeds

13:20according to national and international guidelines.

13:23The application of vertical measures will align

13:26the traffic calming policy with vision zero principles

13:29and the safe system approach,

13:30international and national guidelines,

13:33traffic calming policies found across Ontario municipalities,

13:36the city of Guelph's community's complete streets design guide

13:40and its recent commitment of using provincial funding

13:43for vertical traffic calming measures.

13:45A final note about this recommendation

13:47is that speed bumps and speed humps

13:50will continue to be excluded

13:52from the traffic calming policies list

13:54of proposed traffic calming measures.

13:57So just to be clear, we're bringing back

14:00our following recommended guidelines

14:02that follow international standards

14:04and also bringing in new measure, which is raised crossing.

14:11Challenge number two.

14:14Oh, the last, I don't think I mentioned it.

14:17Yeah, there we go.

14:19Number two.

14:20Okay.

14:23The traffic calming policy is initiated reactively,

14:26responding to resident requests

14:28rather than proactively addressing areas of elevated risk.

14:32This approach, which we shared with you before,

14:34has advantaged certain residents

14:37who experienced lower levels of risk over others

14:40and does not adequately align with vision zero principles

14:43and the safe system approach.

14:45That's the challenge we're dealing with, the recommendation.

14:48Number two is that traffic calming policy

14:51will be evidence informed and data driven

14:54by prioritizing the proactive installation

14:57of traffic calming measures in community safety zones,

15:00nominated and prioritized using risk-based data

15:04over resident-made requests.

15:06I wanted to point out a few more details

15:08about what community safety zones are

15:10that are not in the slide right here.

15:12Community safety zones are roads designated

15:17by the city of Guelph where the public safety

15:20is of special concern.

15:21According to the city of Guelph's community safety zone

15:24policy approved by council in 2025,

15:28roads can be designated by city council

15:30to be a community safety zone

15:32where there is typically a higher concentration

15:35of vulnerable road users who have an increased risk

15:37of serious injury and fatality and a collision.

15:41Those roads are understood to be near all primary

15:43and secondary schools, all major educational institutions,

15:47all major health centers and hospitals

15:50and near community facilities that include

15:52all community centers, libraries, senior centers,

15:55retirement homes and shelters.

15:57Demographic pedestrian volume

15:59and historical vehicle speed data

16:01include indicating roads with highest risk

16:04of serious injury and fatality and a collision

16:06are also used to guide the designation

16:10of community safety zones.

16:12So that's a long sentence, just kind of reminder

16:14of what community safety zones are about,

16:17but our recommendation is that traffic calming policy

16:20will prioritize community safety zones.

16:25Yeah, we're actually gonna go through all of them

16:27and then you can add this there, okay?

16:29Yeah, yeah.

16:30Yeah, if you're okay with that.

16:31Yeah, that's fine.

16:32Okay.

16:33So just at the end for all.

16:34Yeah, we'll summarize all of them.

16:37And maybe just a final note about the recommendation.

16:40Currently, there are 66 community safety zones

16:44in the city of Guelph.

16:4557 of those are just outside of schools.

16:50So just to give you a sense of where we are now,

16:52our policy allows us to add more community safety zones

16:56and council to support that if they want to.

16:58Right now we have 66,

17:00most of these are just outside of schools.

17:03Just for you to know.

17:04Okay, challenge three related to this one as well.

17:08Due to the pause of the traffic calming policy,

17:10the traffic calming implementation

17:11and reduced vehicle speed limits,

17:14a high number of traffic calming requests remain

17:17in the traffic calming policy queue

17:18for future traffic calming implementation.

17:21None of the publicly prioritized streets

17:24on our city of Guelph website

17:26have received traffic calming measures

17:27since being eligible in 2020.

17:31And a decade long timeline to resolve

17:34resident traffic calming requests,

17:36which is currently the case,

17:38is an inadequate standard for customer service.

17:43Here's our recommendation to address that challenge.

17:48The traffic calming policy will prioritize

17:50addressing streets with the highest risk

17:52of collision related injuries

17:54over a first come, first serve approach.

17:57Engineering transportation services staff

17:59will create a transition plan

18:01to address existing publicly prioritized streets

18:05as additional resources permit.

18:08Engineering transportation services staff

18:10will close all remaining traffic calming service requests,

18:14which fall outside of community safety zones

18:17and previously prioritized streets.

18:19Residents will be able to make requests

18:21for traffic calming under the updated traffic calming policy.

18:24However, they will be notified that reviews

18:26will commence upon completion

18:28of all community safety zones traffic calming,

18:31all community safety zone traffic calming installations

18:34throughout the city.

18:35So all to say in some,

18:38we're gonna continue to focus on community safety zones

18:40over say your request has been there for a long time.

18:45And we're going to close our existing traffic calming requests

18:48that have been in the queue for five, six, seven years

18:51right now.

18:54Okay, challenge number four, and this is the last one.

18:58The city of Wells community, a complete streets design guide

19:01describe specific traffic calming measures

19:03that are not currently listed in the traffic calming policy.

19:07Since the traffic calming policy update in 2020,

19:10new traffic calming measures have been adopted

19:12across North America that are not currently defined

19:15within the traffic calming,

19:16our current existing traffic calming policy.

19:19Some traffic calming policy measures,

19:22namely speed cushions and curb extensions

19:24also impact the quality of movement for people who cycle.

19:30Those is more about the actual designs

19:31of those traffic calming measures.

19:34Our recommendation is that traffic calming,

19:37the updated traffic calming policy will add new traffic

19:40calming measures to align with the city's complete street

19:43design guidelines and the latest traffic calming approaches.

19:47Traffic calming policy will meet its goal

19:50of encouraging active transportation

19:51through infrastructure safety and modifications

19:53by adding new measures,

19:55which fully accommodate people who cycle.

19:58New traffic calming measures when applied

19:59for the first time will be reviewed

20:02with relevant stakeholders,

20:03including sustainable transportation,

20:05wealth transit, operations, fire and paramedic services.

20:10Those are four.

20:11And so I wanted to kind of go back

20:13to how this aligns with your feedback

20:14that you gave to us back in October.

20:18So I'll go over these one by one

20:20and we'll talk about how we've addressed them.

20:22So this is the feedback that you offered to us

20:24in October 16th, 2025.

20:27Number one, stakeholders including EMS,

20:31School Board, Transportation Consortium will be notified

20:35and our response is that this request is supported by us.

20:41Engineering and Transportation Services

20:42is notifying all these relevant stakeholders.

20:46Number two, explore proactive approaches

20:49to traffic calming in alignment

20:51with Vision Zero Action Plan.

20:53And this is accommodated in our recommendations

20:55by our recommendation number two

20:57and recommendation number three.

21:01Number three, consider engagement with equity-seeking groups

21:04and equitable processing approach to traffic calming requests.

21:08This is accommodated in recommendation number two.

21:12Community safety zone designation requires

21:14the consideration of equity-related risk data,

21:17which is embedded in what we call the high-risk network,

21:20according to our community safety zone policy.

21:23The Vision Zero Action Plan also notes actions

21:26to host public engagement events with residents who live

21:29and work near the high-risk network to better understand

21:32and respond to road safety concerns and mobility needs.

21:36Number four, oh, I say it's five here, but it's actually four.

21:42Number four, consider strategies for dedicated funding

21:46to enable a more proactive approach.

21:49This recommendation is supported by us.

21:51Engineering and Transportation Services,

21:53as we mentioned before, are pursuing provincial funding,

21:56as well as external funding opportunities

21:58for traffic calming measures.

22:01Number five, consider prioritizing incorporating

22:06traffic calming measures in ongoing and future road projects

22:09for the purposes of cost effectiveness.

22:12This recommendation or feedback is supported by us.

22:16Engineering and Transportation Services

22:18is incorporating traffic calming measures

22:20through road reconstruction and new road projects

22:24based on the recommendation to do so

22:26within the Complete Street Design Guidelines.

22:28So as a quick example, right now,

22:30White Law Road is a project that fits this current example,

22:33where we're meeting the Complete Street Design Guidelines

22:35and the Adding Traffic Calming Measures.

22:38This recommendation also fits our Vision Zero Action Plan's

22:42Road Safety Audits and our Capital Plan Prioritization

22:46Process, which proactively identifies roads

22:49to add traffic calming measures or other speed reduction

22:52measures to those roads.

22:54Okay, six, vertical measures, including raised

22:58pedestrian crossings and speed bumps

23:01should be considered pending feedback

23:03from the Accessibility Advisory Committee.

23:05So this is accommodated in recommendation one,

23:07which I mentioned to you before.

23:09I also want to clarify speed cushions,

23:11not speed bumps, will be included in the traffic calming

23:14policy, so that is a difference in our language there.

23:19I will note that the Accessibility Advisory Committee

23:22received our presentation regarding vertical measures,

23:26vertical measure effectiveness and research

23:28on October 21st, 2025.

23:32The traffic calming policy update presentation for the AAC

23:36will occur January 20th next week

23:39and Engineering Transportation Services

23:42will request support and recommendation from them

23:44regarding recommendation one.

23:46And the last one, consider emerging traffic calming

23:50measures such as active bump and kidney speed bumps.

23:54And that's accommodated by our recommendation number four.

23:58We are always interested in adding the most proactive,

24:03new measures and is something that we're reviewing

24:06with our stakeholders as well.

24:07So that recommendation, that feedback is accommodated

24:11to us, with us.

24:13Okay, that was a little bit about

24:15our four main challenges and four main recommendations

24:20that we have for that guide

24:22or traffic calming policy update.

24:25Just as a review, we came to you before in October,

24:28you provided our feedback.

24:29We did public engagement with the Civic Circle,

24:32coming back to you to update the traffic calming policy

24:35with these directions.

24:36We're also going to the Accessibility Advisory Committee

24:39next week and then this traffic calming policy,

24:42the updated version will come to be presented

24:46to Council to approve on April 7th, 2026.

24:51Okay, now just to review our recommendations

24:54that we are supporting for you.

24:56Number one, that the Transportation Advisory Committee

25:00receives the presentation on traffic calming policy TCT

25:03update, that is the presentation I just gave to you.

25:07You are welcome to endorse that one.

25:09And this one is the more exciting one perhaps.

25:11Well, they're both exciting.

25:14Number two, that the Transportation Advisory Committee

25:18endorse the following recommendations

25:20to the traffic calming policy as proposed

25:23by us, the Engineering Transportation Services.

25:26So this is, I'm just summarizing this,

25:28but I spoke about each of these in detail,

25:31but I'm just kind of giving you the gist

25:33of each recommendation for you to consider.

25:36So recommendation one, the traffic calming policy

25:39will incorporate the most effective traffic calming measures

25:44for reducing vehicle speeds, which may include the use

25:47and recommended spacing of raised crossings

25:50and speed cushions.

25:51That's number one.

25:53Number two, the traffic calming policy will be evidence

25:55informed and data driven by prioritizing

25:59the proactive installation of traffic calming measures

26:02in community safety zones.

26:05Number three, traffic calming policy will prioritize

26:08addressing streets with the highest risk of collision

26:12related injuries over a first come, first serve approach.

26:16And number four, traffic calming policy will add new

26:20traffic calming measures to align the city

26:23with the city's complete street design guidelines,

26:25the latest traffic calming approaches

26:27and incorporate measures which encourage

26:29active transportation.

26:34That is it.

26:36Thank you.

26:42Thanks very much for your presentation, Nico.

26:45So if there are any questions or comments for Nico

26:51or welcome to unmute or if you're in the room,

26:53just jump in and share your feedback or comment.

27:01I've got a question.

27:03One of the statements was,

27:04may look at such things as speed bumps, it may not.

27:09Are there any alternatives as opposed

27:11to just speed bumps or like for us to vote on something

27:15that may or may not and effective,

27:18effective transportation kind of, to me seems silly

27:22because there's nothing standard about it.

27:26Either we go with one thing or we don't.

27:29Yep.

27:30So the recommendation is to include race crossings

27:35and speed cushions.

27:37So maybe just as a quick clarification,

27:39speed bumps are what you usually see in like old parking lots.

27:42They're like very tiny and they go like this,

27:45like really rate them.

27:46They're really aggressive.

27:48Speed humps.

27:50Downy.

27:51Maybe I can show you.

27:52Yeah.

27:53No.

27:54No.

27:55Sorry, no, no, please.

27:56What street has speed?

27:59Arthur has speed humps.

28:01I don't know.

28:02We have any that have some bumps.

28:05Yeah.

28:06Yeah, so the nomenclature is a bit tough

28:09because it gets thrown around.

28:10So yeah, speed bump, think like private property,

28:12very narrow, very like you have to literally crawl

28:16your car over a speed bump.

28:18We don't really have any of those on the city street.

28:22Those are sort of private property things.

28:25Speed humps are what we did back in the early 2000s.

28:28So Dufferin Street, exhibition,

28:30Kathleen, Arthur King Queen,

28:33they go the whole way across the street.

28:36Again, you can go over like 30 kilometers an hour.

28:40You're not gonna ruin your car.

28:42They're designed to not have you go over at like 16.

28:47The speed cushion is sort of the latest evolution

28:49of a vertical measure that we've done

28:52on like Tarmigan, Downy, Starwood.

28:56They don't go the full width across the pavement.

28:58There's sort of gaps a bit wider.

29:00So a traditional passenger vehicle would go over.

29:04But if you think like an emergency vehicle,

29:07transit, something with a little bigger, wider wheelbase

29:10would have almost no deflection.

29:13So on a go forward, that would be the only type of speed.

29:21That would be the speed cushion

29:23that we're looking to keep in the policy.

29:27And again, the idea there is

29:30most people could comfortably go over.

29:34If you've got a super low fancy sports car,

29:38you probably would want to slow down.

29:40But the intent there is to prohibit somebody

29:43from going like 60 down a residential street.

29:46Like you would feel it.

29:48Would it be helpful to show?

29:49We have in our last presentation in October,

29:52we kind of talked a little bit about this,

29:54but to recognize there's about like,

29:56you could say there's 20 or 30 different types

29:58of traffic calming measures.

29:59Right now in our traffic calming toolkit,

30:02in our traffic calming policy,

30:03there are 17 different measures.

30:06So those go from curb extensions,

30:09to lane narrowing, to speed cushions.

30:14So there's a wide variety of measures.

30:16And one of which is not included right now

30:19is race crossings.

30:21We would like to add in race crossing.

30:23Speed cushions are currently part

30:25of our traffic calming policy,

30:27but we are not following the current spacing standards

30:30that are recommended by.

30:31Why?

30:32No, like in terms of where they're spaced.

30:34So right now it's a bit,

30:36what was recommended, what we accommodated

30:39from the AAC's concern was to have only one

30:44vertical measure per block face.

30:46So it kind of depends on the road,

30:48but usually that ends up being like 120, 150 meters.

30:53What the recommendation is to go back to around 80 to 90.

30:58It depends on the road classification.

31:00If you're talking about a 30 kilometer road,

31:01you want those to be tighter.

31:02If you're talking about a 40 kilometer,

31:04you want those to be longer

31:05because you're talking about different speed requirements.

31:08So I'm not sure if I answered your question,

31:10but the request is to add race crossing

31:13and to bring back speed cushions at a regular interval.

31:16And both of those are different than speed bumps.

31:18Okay, yeah, that's my wording that was.

31:21Like getting back to that,

31:23how does this affect the EMS vehicles?

31:25If we have it where you got to slow down,

31:27like can a police, which doesn't have the wider wheelbase,

31:31go over at 16 case of an emergency.

31:33Yeah, good point.

31:34Without damaging their vehicle,

31:36without damaging or hurting the officers,

31:39same with ambulance, they have a shorter wheelbase.

31:42You don't want them slowing down

31:43if someone's got a heart attack

31:44and they're trying to get to the.

31:46Yeah, so we've spoken with emergency services.

31:51So specifically, wealth fire services,

31:54wealth Wellington paramedic services.

31:57And here's a little bit of context just for you to consider

31:59because this was new information for me too.

32:01Guelph Wellington paramedic services confirm

32:03that traffic calming measures do not impact

32:06their response times in Guelph.

32:08In comparison, response times can be impacted

32:11by road closures, constructions, train, weather.

32:15So in comparison, those things affect their service much more.

32:20Paramedic services investigates every complaint

32:22about response times regarding traffic calming measures.

32:25In every complaint documented,

32:26paramedic services did not find evidence to suggest

32:29that our current traffic calming measures

32:31impacted their response.

32:32So I can speak to that.

32:33I mean, are current with fire and other like wealth transit,

32:38for example, our speed cushions allow them

32:41to basically go right through because they're cut.

32:44So they're designed for wider vehicles

32:48to kind of get to the middle

32:49and if they need to go fast, they can go right through.

32:52So those type of, so a fire truck has no real issue with it.

32:57So that just gives you a little bit of context

32:59of some of the feedback we've received.

33:01Okay, and did we talk to the wealth police about

33:04because we're also talking damage.

33:05You had mentioned that the 160 or these

33:08can do a little bit of damage.

33:10If you're responding in the same vehicle time and time again

33:13to the same calls, is it damaging the vehicle?

33:16Yes.

33:17Yeah, so I think we haven't directly had feedback from them

33:20yet about this traffic calming policy

33:23and the renew, the adding new spacing.

33:25We do meet with wealth police services

33:28on our vision zero committee.

33:29So we're regularly communicating with them,

33:32but we don't have their feedback just yet.

33:35So you meet with the police.

33:36Yep.

33:37And you speak to like officers,

33:39but do you just speak to like fleet maintenance

33:41to actually maintain the vehicles and the mechanics

33:44but the damages?

33:45No, I haven't.

33:46Because that would be more telling versus how someone feels

33:49versus what actual damage is getting done to the vehicle.

33:52Yeah, in the past we've talked to city fleet,

33:56wealth police has their own fleet

33:59and there hasn't really been a,

34:01they're much more supportive of the speed cushion

34:03to the older speed hump that we put out.

34:07So from previous conversations, yeah.

34:10Yeah, and maybe a reminder that traffic calming policy

34:13has been here since 1998.

34:15And we've had vertical measures since 1998.

34:19And all these stakeholders that while they haven't been

34:21updated on the race crossings,

34:24they are very familiar with speed cushions

34:25and other types of vertical measures.

34:27And they've been engaged for the next 20 years.

34:30So while I don't have feedback specifically

34:31from the maintenance of those,

34:34we do have regular relationships with these institutions.

34:37It just has the mechanics of heat.

34:39When I go over speed, I was like,

34:40you're fine, your car's fine, looks at it.

34:42So he knows some more actual.

34:44And it's a fair point.

34:45Like roads, driving a car, where is down a car?

34:49Snow where is down a car?

34:51Hitting a puddle, it's a car.

34:54And I think what we're trying to remind,

34:56why we're doing this is our purpose

34:58is to get to vision zero.

35:00And our purpose is to slow vehicles down any way we can

35:04because the loss of life is more important or focused

35:08than the wear and tear of a vehicle,

35:10which is still important and has budget considerations.

35:12But at the end of the day,

35:13that is our focus for this policy.

35:17I see just one person online.

35:18Remember Rubello?

35:20Do you wanna ask your question or comment?

35:23Yeah, so that's me.

35:24Just to check, you can hear me, right?

35:26Yes.

35:27Okay, perfect.

35:28Just one question, Nikhil.

35:29How do you assess the risk of where,

35:33which streets have a higher chance of collisions?

35:36Yeah.

35:39On our, thanks for that question.

35:42We created what's called a high risk network

35:46in our vision zero action plan

35:49that starts to answer that question.

35:52The quick answer is there's many variables

35:54that you wanna consider.

35:56So for example, where there are high volume,

36:03fast speeds and people around,

36:06that is a dangerous spot.

36:08You don't want to have fast moving vehicles,

36:10which increases the severity,

36:12which we talked about before,

36:13and a lot of people around and a lot of cars around.

36:16That's a real dangerous spot.

36:17So that's one factor to consider

36:19is vehicle volume and pedestrian volume and vehicle speed.

36:24So we can access some of that information.

36:26The other thing that increases severity is demographic.

36:29So age is a real big issue.

36:32If you are older than 70 years old or 80 years old,

36:37you're more likely to die in a collision

36:39than somebody who's 10 or 20.

36:42But that's just speaking about age.

36:44My children are much shorter.

36:45They have smaller bodies.

36:46So if you have a smaller body,

36:48you might be less likely to be seen by certain vehicles.

36:52So demographic issues and issue,

36:53if you have lower income or you're transit dependent,

36:57you're more likely to wait for a bus

36:59and cross the street on foot,

37:00which makes you a vulnerable road user.

37:02You're less likely to be inside a car.

37:05So that puts you at risk.

37:07So there's many different factors at play

37:09with trying to understand risk.

37:11So we've tried to do that in our high risk network

37:14that is listed in our Vision Zero Action Plan.

37:16And that is connected to about 11 different

37:19Vision Zero actions that prioritize,

37:21well, where should we reconstruct a road?

37:24Where should we do road audits?

37:26Where should we do more community engagement?

37:28Where are our priorities?

37:30So the high risk network definitely has a role

37:32with informing where we should focus.

37:34But sometimes it depends on when you get to an intersection.

37:39It's not necessarily, well, we need to fix this intersection.

37:41You have to kind of look at the intersection a little bit

37:43more clearly to get into the weeds of it.

37:45So I guess the quick answer is data is the things

37:49that we use, especially around speed

37:51and where people are to inform where the highest risks are.

37:58Okay, thank you.

38:05About the community safety zones.

38:07How big does the area cover?

38:09Because you're seeing the school zone,

38:11then children walking from, I think it's 1.2 kilometers,

38:15two schools that range, they'll get there first.

38:17So what's the radius?

38:19So the school zones were officially 150 meters away

38:27from in either direction from the school,

38:30the front entrance of the school.

38:32So that's how school, now school zones are different

38:34than community safety zones.

38:35So that's how the area of the owners stood by the province.

38:38When the city of Guelph took on the community safety zones,

38:42we applied it to school zones and then we kind of made it fit.

38:45Cause some schools are like right next to each other.

38:47It doesn't really make sense if you have one school zone here,

38:49one school zone, like what about in the middle?

38:51So we kind of expanded it.

38:52So there's not a clear, like it's a set number.

38:55They're usually about between,

38:58I mean, Steve, do you have a good sense?

39:00200, 300 meters, 400 meters, yeah.

39:04Often we'll stretch it to like a natural boundary.

39:08So, you know, maybe where a residential street

39:12meets an arterial road or something,

39:14we're sort of like the other side of that road

39:17is kind of a different characteristic than the site.

39:20It really varies and depends on a number of factors.

39:24There isn't a set life.

39:27So for my raise, like some, if they don't overlap,

39:30so like where I live,

39:32I wouldn't be considered anywhere in a safety zone.

39:35And then between two arterial road,

39:37we'd have to cross them to go to the school.

39:40And there's also a set of train tracks.

39:42Is there any progress just for train track crossings?

39:44I know it's because it becomes a different department there

39:48because the train tracks are maintained by Metro Lakes, right?

39:52So your question is can community safety zones

39:55be where train tracks are or what's your question?

39:58My question is can they be expanded to include

40:00like the radius for walking,

40:02for students walking to school, for example, for being?

40:05Well, we, sorry, I need to go to the middle of the place.

40:08Please.

40:09We've tried to focus them in the really concentrated areas.

40:15Because if we took 1.2 kilometers around

40:17like every elementary school,

40:20then the whole city would effectively become

40:22a community safety zone.

40:24And we shared with council like we're not going to

40:27community safety zones are way kind of out of the problem.

40:30We really want drivers specifically to understand

40:34when they see that, that this is an area

40:38of specific concentrations, our school,

40:41senior centers, the hospital, that type of thing.

40:44So our first deployment really focused on that.

40:49So, you know, it doesn't cover the entire 1.2

40:52because then the whole, basically the whole city

40:54would be blanketed.

40:56So my concern is that when all the kids

40:58funnel walking the one way that like you have like 30,

41:0140 kids walking to school and that's not part of it.

41:04But you have a lot of people from Stuyah streets.

41:07And that happens in a lot of different schools.

41:10So is there like any provisions we can add?

41:12Or if like neighborhoods or schools say this is,

41:14all the kids come from this area specifically

41:17and they're crossing, we have crossing guards,

41:18but like that's not enough sometimes

41:19because there's no crossing guards down the line.

41:21They're closer to their house.

41:25Yeah.

41:26So for now, like we just adopted the community safety zone

41:29policy last year.

41:30Okay.

41:31Yeah, last year.

41:32So we've done the first pass.

41:34That's not to say we're never going to look at it again

41:36or expand it, but the initial was, yeah.

41:41So some schools have it on multiple streets.

41:43Just again, we have 47 elementary schools.

41:47They are all on different streets

41:49and different neighborhoods.

41:50So, you know, fair enough.

41:55But just from that initial deployment of schools

41:58and community safety zones, like that's probably

42:01many, many, many, many years where the work

42:05force is there relates to this policy, right?

42:11Yeah.

42:11Fair feedback, you know.

42:13And just as we're reminded right now,

42:15there's 66 community safety zones.

42:18Do you set up centers?

42:19Schools.

42:20Yeah.

42:20And right now our policy allows for community safety zones

42:25to be outside of all schools, high schools,

42:28hospitals, educational centers, and also where there's

42:31highest risk that are near to what we're calling

42:34community facilities.

42:35So if there's a community center, library,

42:38senior center, retirement home, or shelter,

42:40that's also near that higher risk area

42:43that we were just talking about, that can also be

42:45included for community safety zone as well.

42:47Community safety zone designation.

42:48What about like religious establishments?

42:51Yep.

42:51It's not listed as currently in terms of the community

42:54safety zone policy.

42:59So all to say, what I'm trying to say is that it can,

43:02the community safety zone policy allows us to expand

43:04it over time if we want to change it.

43:10Station number two, you said it could be nominated by,

43:17it's nominated by who?

43:22Yeah.

43:23Well, that's a good question.

43:24Yeah, yeah.

43:25It would be by us.

43:26Okay.

43:26So like I just said, we have that those 66 community

43:31safety zones currently.

43:33Now, right now, we're talking about at least previously,

43:39we, based on our current capacity, we were running about

43:42one to two traffic calming streets a year.

43:46So, I mean, you imagine a one a year, it would take 66 years,

43:51you know, in a hypothetical.

43:52I'm not saying that that's the case, but that's one easy

43:55way to think about it.

43:56So if you, out of those 66, we have to come as staff to

43:59figure out, well, how do we prioritize?

44:02Number one, let's focus on community safety zones.

44:04Next, let's focus on where the highest risk might be

44:07out of that safety zones.

44:09And that's something that the person who was asking before,

44:11we would use our own data to figure out, well,

44:14where is the highest risk right now based on the data

44:16that we have?

44:17And that's something we would explore.

44:21So they would be nominated by ETS staff.

44:24So for the data, you have your own data, but are you pulling

44:27from like police accidents as well?

44:30Or like, I know near misses don't get reported.

44:32So that's something the community would report and

44:36saying, there's all these near misses in my community,

44:38but you're taking away that aspect.

44:41Yeah.

44:41So police data is the same data that we have.

44:45Okay.

44:45We like in terms of if there's a collision on the road,

44:50police haven't, we haven't too.

44:53So near miss, we have some data that is very difficult to

44:57capture.

44:57Of course, you have to have like a camera there that

45:00sees it.

45:01So we have about 50 of these cameras across the city

45:04that we're trying to use proactively say like, well,

45:06where's some highest risk?

45:07Where are their own near collisions?

45:09So we're using that for all of our vision zero work.

45:12Just flagging again that traffic on the policies,

45:14one of 68 actions for our road safety.

45:18So we have all sorts of different focus that think

45:20about things that are outside of local schools,

45:24local community centers.

45:25We have all these other actions that are using that,

45:26those type of data.

45:28So right now, based on this policy, it does not

45:30incorporate near miss.

45:34But maybe that's something that we could consider,

45:36especially for pedestrians that there's like a crosswalk.

45:42And there's a stop sign, but there's no crosswalks to

45:44walk over a certain street.

45:46There's no stop signs.

45:47So the kids just have to dart through traffic.

45:50We have to wait for a gap.

45:52And people will like snake around.

45:54Sam.

45:54Yeah.

45:55Do crosswalks or like the, what's it called?

45:59Crosswalks or crossovers, where there's not any

46:01of the signs saying that you have, you have to stop

46:04as a vehicle if someone wants to cross.

46:06Not everyone does, but what is that in traffic calming?

46:10So pedestrian crossovers or crosswalks either say,

46:15these are, as much as I would love them to be mandatory,

46:20they, as you were flagging, they are, I made a joke

46:23that we say is stopional.

46:25Yes.

46:25Perhaps.

46:25Yeah.

46:26That's a, I'm really unfortunate because it's a

46:28real serious risk.

46:30So it's not a physical impediment because there's no

46:35physical elements to it.

46:37And so traffic calming measures are physical measures.

46:40What is stop sign?

46:41Stop sign is not a traffic calming measure.

46:43It's not.

46:43No.

46:44Okay.

46:45Yeah.

46:46So in our list of traffic calming measures, these are

46:50things like speed cushions that we're talking about,

46:52race crossing, curb extensions, things that physically

46:56change the road to reduce vehicle speeds.

46:59Okay.

46:59That's one.

47:05Oh.

47:07Oh.

47:09Oh, Rubello?

47:11Oh, sure.

47:12So I asked my question.

47:14Sorry.

47:15Hi.

47:16I think we have a question from Alham.

47:18Oh, hey, had.

47:19Yes, thanks.

47:21Can you hear me?

47:22Yes, we can hear you.

47:24Thank you.

47:24Yeah.

47:24So here is my question.

47:26So when the cameras were used, I know that there was a project going on in the city of Toronto

47:32that they could optimize the like the switch of the locations and the timing based on the

47:38season and other situation to get the most out of them.

47:42But given the fact that this budget is limited and also this infrastructure, I think it's not

47:48like something that we can move around is going to be permanent.

47:52So how do you think that the city is going to tackle this?

47:55Let's say we use a circle data to see that, okay, where we want to install this speed limits

48:02or whatever other options that we have.

48:04And then after a while or after a few years, we see that, okay, it was not the best option.

48:09And then we have other more dangerous locations there, but the budget is gone.

48:16And we cannot move around these things.

48:18Like what is your opinion on this?

48:21Thanks.

48:22Okay.

48:23So maybe the question is automated speed enforcement was removed from our use.

48:32What are we doing to replace automated speed enforcement?

48:34Maybe someone can help us.

48:35I think there was an aspect of your prioritization.

48:38Yeah.

48:38If maybe I think and feel free to correct by the way of Steve, I work with Nico.

48:45So I think the concern was we deploy, we spend portion of our budget,

48:51we deploy measures in an area, but then for whatever reason that area changes in a couple years,

48:57you know, maybe that wasn't actually the best spot.

49:00Is that was that kind of the gist is like making sure we're deploying our resources at the spot that needs it the most?

49:09Yeah, exactly.

49:10Yes.

49:11Right.

49:12So you want to do a special prioritization?

49:14Yeah.

49:15I mean, yeah, federal listening director, my thoughts here.

49:20I can help.

49:21Yeah, please help me and I'll jump in.

49:22So we have a number of inputs from data we use and we so similarly the decision on where to put the speed cameras first,

49:34we had a number of inputs.

49:36So things like other sidewalks on both sides of the street.

49:39What's the volume of the street?

49:40What's the speed on the street?

49:42Are there other pedestrian generators, community centers, libraries, senior things?

49:48So our spreadsheet, oh my goodness, it goes over to a column.

49:52CD or something.

49:54It's got like 30 different data inputs that help us do our prioritization.

50:01Now the 2020 traffic calming policy and had the prioritization at that time that we used again.

50:11So we don't just sort of, as much as we can, we don't go like squeaky wheel just because 20 people are asking for it here.

50:20Like we do try to rely on all various data inputs to focus where we put things.

50:29And I see there as it's going to add, I'll just add sometimes to like that will change if the number one street, for instance,

50:38turns out it's going to be fully reconstructed in two years.

50:42Well, then we might just wait for the full road reconstruction.

50:44So it's not exclusively the list we go on, but there is, do you want to pick up on this?

50:52Hi everyone, just a quick introduction.

50:54My name is Liraas Friedman.

50:55I'm the road safety supervisor.

50:56I work with Nico and Steve.

50:58I was responsible for kind of the last update of the traffic calming policy.

51:01The other thing I think that we often forget is there's an evaluation component that we didn't get into because

51:07that's kind of, let's call it status quo.

51:08It would be an element of evaluation and reviewing data would be included in the new policy as well.

51:15But just the question around resourcing and to Nico's point about the spacing and the effectiveness and what we know from the past

51:21is that we do that before and after work.

51:25So we study speed and volume on a particular street to see what the effect is once we put a cushion in.

51:33That's kind of how we know that in the spacing that we've had in the past, they haven't been as effective as they could be.

51:38The other thing we get this question all the time is kind of around this game of whack-a-mole in terms of resources because

51:44what you do to one street is naturally going to cause a spillover effect because people are going to say,

51:49well, I don't feel comfortable driving on the street or I don't want to because it might damage my vehicle or whatever all those

51:54excuses might be.

51:54I don't want to slow down.

51:56So we're going to shift over to another street.

51:58And so now you've created a problem, let's call it on an adjacent road.

52:02And so we monitor what those effects look like.

52:05So in terms of resource allocation, we're putting something in and we're measuring that we know that it works so that we can tweak the design

52:11to make sure either the speed is correct or the measures are correct.

52:14So going back to that initial question about like, what kind of measures do we have?

52:18We don't just use vertical measures, but we can go in and we have the ability to do a bit of that evaluation work to make sure that the

52:24resources are being allocated in a way that helps support the neighborhood in that initial goal of reducing speeds and enhancing safety.

52:31One more question.

52:40You spoke about like drivers of pedestrian, like what can drive the pedestrians to an area.

52:46Do you like consider stuff like the food bank, Hope House, the bench?

52:50Yeah.

52:51So we do look at, I mean, broadly, this is outside of traffic coming policy, but when we're looking at risk across the city, we're looking for where people are.

53:02So those include shelters or destination shops, commercial areas, where you look kind of like land use destination.

53:11We also have what's called streetlight data.

53:14So we actually can measure using people's cell phones about like where people actually are because it's quite difficult.

53:19You can imagine standing outside on Victoria, counting the number of people.

53:23But so there's many different ways of looking at this broadly within Vision Zero and our road safety team specifically for this, our community safety zones focus on what we're calling community facilities.

53:34So not just schools and hospitals.

53:35And but also I've seen your centers were included.

53:40Community, community centers, libraries and shelters are what we do.

53:45We consider community facilities.

53:48Now you might want to say churches as your religious centers might be included.

53:52Currently, that's not listed, but we thought those have a regular, strong amount of pedestrian generation that they do create risk.

54:08We're looking at certain areas of the city.

54:12Are we also looking at main roadways?

54:14Like this is a folks only same woodland.

54:18There's no schools on one hundred people fly down there.

54:22Are we looking, we know the faster the vehicles go, the more dangerous to the collisions.

54:27Are we looking at something along those lines where all the major roads are going to be eventually done?

54:34Or is that just not a concern?

54:36And right now we're just focusing on schools.

54:38So Vision Zero Action Plan thinks as 68 actions that tries to identify risk across the whole city.

54:4510% of the roadway are where 83% of our serious injuries and deaths occurred.

54:51And most of those roads are fast moving arterial roads.

54:54So our Vision Zero Action Plan has all sorts of actions trying to make things safe across the whole city.

55:01Now this, what we're talking about here is specific to how we can do address traffic

55:06calming on only local and collector roads.

55:09So this is only, this is one part of 68 actions and is only meant to address traffic calming

55:15for local and collector roads.

55:17That's it.

55:17So we were trying to, so we have all sorts of different actions.

55:20This is just one policy.

55:23Yeah, so we do have other actions, but not in this policy.

55:25So our two have its own set of guidelines.

55:28Yeah, I mean, in the same way we're thinking about reducing speed, adding what we call in a leading pedestrian interval.

55:35You know, complete street guidelines when roads are reconstructed.

55:38That's also part of Vision Zero as well.

55:49To just move to receive the Transportation Advisory Committee, for the Transportation Advisory Committee

55:58to receive the presentation on the traffic and calling policy update.

56:03Do I have a person to move it?

56:08I can move.

56:11Seconder.

56:16Great.

56:16Thank you, Member Edwards.

56:17So that has passed.

56:20Oh, sorry.

56:21Yes.

56:22All in favor.

56:25Anybody, anybody against?

56:34So that passes.

56:36Okay.

56:38Next, we're going to move on to that the Transportation Advisory Committee

56:46endorsed the following recommendations and I'll go one by one.

56:49And actually gets a, okay, I'll be sharing on screen.

56:52So I'll read it and then you can.

56:57So first one is recommendation one is.

57:03The traffic calming policy will incorporate the most effective traffic calming measures

57:11for reducing vehicle speeds, which may include the use and recommended spacing of raised

57:17crossing and speed cushions.

57:19So do I have a mover?

57:26Member Dale and do I have a seconder?

57:35Thank you.

57:42All in favor.

57:44All.

57:45Oh, sorry.

58:03Five.

58:05So everyone who wants to vote in favor.

58:09Okay.

58:09So that passes.

58:10The recommendation number two is the traffic calming policy will be evidence informed and

58:21data driven by prioritizing the proactive installation of traffic calming measures

58:29in community safety zones.

58:34So can I have a mover?

58:37Okay.

58:37A seconder, please.

58:43So all in favor.

58:53Okay.

58:53That carries.

58:54That has passed recommendation number three, the traffic calming policy will prioritize

59:03addressing streets with the highest risk of collision related entries over a first come,

59:09first serve approach.

59:12Can I have a mover?

59:15Seconder.

59:16All right.

59:24All in favor.

59:35Okay.

59:36Thank you.

59:36That carries.

59:38And the fourth recommendation, the traffic calming policy.

59:42We'll add new traffic calming measures to align with the city's complete street design guidelines.

59:47The latest traffic calming approaches and incorporate measures which encourage active

59:51transportation.

59:53I need a mover and then a seconder for Baldwin.

1:00:11Thank you.

1:00:13All in favor.

1:00:30So that carries.

1:00:33So those are all the recommendations.

1:00:38Germans.

1:00:39So if you may speak for a second, that is Andrew from the city parks office through you chair

1:00:45cruisin.

1:00:46There was a number of comments from members of the committee as well.

1:00:49We do have an additional motion if you'd like to consider that does attempt to capture some of

1:00:53those that commentary will put it up on screen now.

1:00:57So you can review.

1:00:59Just a second.

1:01:00Just there.

1:01:20Just fun doing this on one screen.

1:01:21There we are.

1:01:21It's coming up on screen right now.

1:01:23There we are.

1:01:24So this captures some of the commentary that was delivered at the meeting.

1:01:28And committee wishes this could be added to the minutes as a as additional considerations.

1:01:44All right.

1:01:44Does anyone want to move to include these into the minutes as record?

1:01:48And I need a seconder.

1:01:52Come here.

1:01:52Yeah.

1:01:53Perfect.

1:01:54Thank you.

1:01:54All in favor.

1:02:01Okay.

1:02:01That carries.

1:02:02Thank you.

1:02:05All right.

1:02:06So.

1:02:08Okay.

1:02:10Team start.

1:02:13Is there I don't believe there's chair and staff announcements.

1:02:19Is there any staff that wants to announce anything?

1:02:25No.

1:02:26Okay.

1:02:26Thank you.

1:02:27So adjournments.

1:02:30I recommend that the committee meeting be adjourned.

1:02:34Mover.

1:02:36Seconder.

1:02:39Okay.

1:02:39I remember well thank you.

1:02:40I support Mayor's hand.

1:02:44Number Ramirez you have a question or are you seconding?

1:02:47Oh it's unmute if you had a question or comments.

1:02:59Okay.

1:02:59Perfect.

1:03:02So I need a mover.

1:03:05Oh sorry we'd have that.

1:03:06So the next transportation advisory committee is February 19th at 5 30.

1:03:14And I just call a vote so we can finish the meeting.

1:03:19Mover.

1:03:20Sure.

1:03:21Seconder.

1:03:23All in favor.

1:03:24Oh sorry.

1:03:24Yeah.

1:03:25Sorry.

1:03:25All in favor.

1:03:28Okay.

1:03:29Looks like everyone agrees.

1:03:30All right.

1:03:30Thank you so much everyone.

1:03:32Have a great night.

1:03:33Yeah.

1:03:37Thanks everyone.

1:03:38Thanks everyone.

1:03:41Thank you.