Economic Development and Tourism Advisory Committee

0:02management, destination development.

0:04My team does destination management and destination development.

0:07We work very closely with the division at the Gualt Chamber of Commerce who does destination marketing.

0:13So together we are a wealth tourism.

0:15But when I say on this table,

0:16mostly I'm speaking to you from economic development and tourism,

0:20and our work at the city to advance tourism initiatives,

0:23that of course have that economic development lens.

0:26So a lot of times when we think about tourism or when folks think about tourism,

0:30they're thinking about the cultural pieces and those kinds of things.

0:34But what we want to do here at this table is really talk about the business development

0:39and how we are supporting our businesses, our tourism operators.

0:43And I get flack from this.

0:46Not every tourism business is a business,

0:48well, or a for-profit corporation.

0:51So a lot of them are not for-profit corporations as well,

0:53like our festivals, which Anu represents.

0:56So yeah, so that's what we do.

0:58And then just like as a quick overview,

1:01economic development and tourism has a general manager, that's James Goodrun.

1:05We have economic development, which is run by Christine Chapman,

1:08who will be my co-staff liaison for this committee.

1:11We also have downtown revitalization or downtown renewal

1:14in our economic development and tourism department.

1:18And we have strategic real estate,

1:20which for those of you who are familiar with the economic development investment attraction,

1:27so it's our strategic real estate division oversees city lands

1:33and how we leverage city lands to grow economic development and tourism

1:36or to grow economic development.

1:39And then we also, of course, have an investment attraction portfolio

1:43that is more private land and bringing that online.

1:46But we'll talk more about that in our next session.

1:49So you'll see Christine and I the most.

1:52I'm sure you will see James here and there as well.

1:55And then you might hear from Stacy, who oversees our downtown portfolio

1:59or Luke, who oversees that strategic real estate portfolio.

2:03But you'll also hear from lots of city staff,

2:07especially when it comes to strategies, bylaws, those kinds of things

2:12that impact the business community.

2:16So you'll, this committee special,

2:19we have a lot of folks who will come and chat with us.

2:25So I will introduce myself.

2:27My name is Winnie Chan.

2:29I'm from the city clerk office.

2:31So clerk office is doing something for, mainly for the city council, actually.

2:35And also two of us, one is me, Winnie Chan and other folks called Liz,

2:43that we are taking care of M.R.S. 3 committees.

2:46In the past, we have 14 M.R.S. 3 committees

2:50because of the redesign project that we changed from 14 and downsized to seven of us.

2:55So economic development and tourism is one of the advisory committees.

3:00So I will provide a procedural advice and also all the administrative

3:07and also plaque services for these advisory committees.

3:10And you will see that I will just keep sending you guys emails, a lot of notes.

3:14And also, yeah, I will bombard your email.

3:17I'm so sorry about that.

3:18And also, you will be receiving a lot of my meeting invites

3:22from advisorycommittees at growth.ca, this email.

3:26So if you have any questions regarding procedures,

3:31you don't know what to do regarding some kind of rules

3:36and also regulations like legislative things, you just come to me.

3:39OK, so I will try to answer ASAP.

3:43And actually, we have meetings every month.

3:47So in between, if you have any questions regarding any procedures

3:53and also plaque things, you just let me know.

3:55So one of my colleagues is Garrett.

3:59He is not here today because he is now in our conference.

4:04So that why I'm the only one here.

4:07But I think upcoming meetings that I will be mostly here

4:12and Garrett may be joining us.

4:14Yeah, not very frequent, but yeah, he will be here.

4:17So yeah, that's it.

4:19So we now maybe we just are our members to introduce yourself to our folks.

4:27OK, so.

4:28They're all started.

4:29Yeah, sure.

4:30So my name is Paul Blackburn.

4:31I'm the general manager of Polycon Industries Division of Magna.

4:35So we're located at the West End.

4:38We're one of the biggest employers under one roof.

4:40I would say we're the biggest employer under one roof in wealth.

4:44So we're 810,000 square feet.

4:47We just recently went through a major expansion where we a ton of investment

4:51into our building.

4:53So we had 120,000 square feet.

4:56We got a growth strategy to grow into well over 1,700 employees under our roof

5:01inside of the next year.

5:02We're a major supplier of only a component.

5:05So we typically do, you know, painted exterior parts and we supply everyone.

5:11So we supply obviously the automotive industry in Ontario's

5:16significantly changed.

5:17We got Brampton down.

5:18We've got, you know, Oshawa or sorry, Oakville on pause.

5:22We got Oshawa, which is going through some change as a result of the tariffs.

5:26And so, you know, again, we're we are.

5:31Our strategy is to stay relevant through this whole thing.

5:34Like I tell our workforce, you know, we're we're up against tariffs.

5:38And for now, we've we have we're OK.

5:42As I say, for now, because I don't know who knows what's going to happen.

5:45But again, we've got a really good outlook, strong growth strategy.

5:49And how I ended up here is just with dealing with James and, you know,

5:55the bill bond, some of the team members from the city.

6:00Again, we're trying to reestablish our presence in Guelph.

6:03So that's my game plan to say we're we're a big employer.

6:06We're here to stay when we've got, you know, we want to be active in the city.

6:13So my name is Christelle Mates.

6:15I wear a couple of different hats.

6:16So I'm the executive director of Business Center, Guelph Wellington,

6:19which is one of 47 small business centers across Ontario.

6:23It is our mandate to help entrepreneurs at all stages of the games.

6:26We work with ideation.

6:28We work with startups launching.

6:29And we also work with existing businesses and helping them with growth strategies.

6:34Just to give you an idea, we deal with in the given year,

6:37about twenty two thousand inquiries, which means emails, phone calls,

6:41people knocking on the door, come in to see us, which is

6:45quite substantial. I have a team of five of us.

6:47So that's pretty good.

6:49And we average we meet with about fifteen hundred

6:52clients directly, like one on one consultations, which means more than one time.

6:56So we run a busy office.

6:58I have an operations manager, Diana, and I have advisors who work.

7:03They are also business owners, which is great.

7:05So they work on contract with me.

7:07And so if you have the opportunity to meet with them,

7:09they've walked the talk and talked the walk because they they all own

7:13businesses of their own, as well as spend time with us.

7:16So I'm a former business owner several times over.

7:19I'm on my fourth or fifth business now.

7:21I do strategic consulting for larger companies.

7:24And so helping them facilitate change management, all kinds of good stuff.

7:28And this is certainly a time of change management.

7:31So, you know, it's fascinating to to see some some work that I'm doing

7:35on site of what I do as an entrepreneur.

7:38And as well, I also sit on the I'm just disclosing this because I sit on

7:43the DGA, which is the Downtown Association, sit on the board as well.

7:47So do you have a mind for that as well?

7:51And try to flip those hats as occasion would need.

7:54Right.

7:55A few things.

7:56A few things.

7:57Thanks.

7:59Hi, Tom.

8:00My name is Anu Siksenam and I'm representing the festival sector

8:04from the board chair for the Goyal Fendt District Multicultural Festival,

8:08which is coming up this weekend.

8:10Are you already invited?

8:11No.

8:13So that's my volunteer role.

8:14But in terms of my work, I work for the member of parliament,

8:18Dominique Bourlouk, and in the past I worked for Lloyd Longfield.

8:23So long time in the office there.

8:27I'm happy you're continuing with Dominique.

8:29And I'm happy to be there.

8:32Yes.

8:34Hi, everyone.

8:35Excuse me. My name is Damien Smith, a sleeper.

8:37I have been in the hospital, restaurant, food and beverage, tourism industry,

8:44despite my youthful appearance for 30 years.

8:47I was thinking this on the drive over.

8:48How's it been?

8:49Thirty years.

8:50I was very honored to be able to serve

8:55on the previous Tourism Advisory Committee,

8:59and I'm here kind of representing

9:02kind of that food and beverage side of things.

9:04One of the biggest things that we're certainly proud of in Guelph is the

9:09wealth beer bus event that we've been running out in our sixth year.

9:15Six local breweries all working together, all collaborating,

9:18all sharing costs to give the good people of Guelph and the greater area

9:24an award winning tourism experience.

9:27And I say that because in 2023,

9:29we won the Ontario Culinary Tourism Award of the year.

9:32So going up against all the big fancy things down in the egg and all that,

9:38little Guelph rose to the top.

9:41So very, very proud of that.

9:42And humbled and honored to be able to offer any of my experience

9:48to this group for the next year.

9:51Right. So I'm Lucas Ugueredo.

9:54I'm the side director for Sea of Animal Health.

9:56That's an animal vaccine company.

10:01We are a French company.

10:02I'm in Brazil as background.

10:04I live in Guelph for six years and I love to be here.

10:08My company here in Guelph, we make a huge investment in the north of the city.

10:13That's why I am new in Lucina.

10:15So we invested 80 million dollars in our new factory here.

10:20And for years, we grow from 19 people that we had before in the site.

10:25For now, we have more than 100.

10:27So I'm still growing.

10:30Yeah, and very happy to be here and be part of this community right now.

10:33Learn and be able to contribute for the city.

10:37Great to have you guys.

10:40Hi, everybody.

10:40My name is Dennis Boss.

10:42Probably you can hear that I was born in Germany, spent half my life

10:46abroad in different countries.

10:48I have a hospitality background, worked in different hotels and the cruise ship.

10:52And then developed myself more into the business economic side.

10:59My wife and I came to Canada six years ago, became Canadians in December last year.

11:04So that's great.

11:08And we are now in Guelph since nearly three years.

11:13And we like it very much.

11:14I work downtown for Crosha Conciting.

11:16It's a land development company as a business intelligence guide to market

11:22research and such.

11:23And I'm finishing up my Doctor of Business Administration this autumn.

11:27So I can't wait to finish that finally on television because life is not boring enough.

11:33And I'm on the board of directors of the Guelph Chamber also since November last year.

11:39So with the storage marketing also need to change my mindset needed.

11:46But yeah, I was very surprised that I was.

11:50Amidst this application didn't see anything.

11:52And also there was emails.

11:54I was very happy about it.

11:55I always like to be engaged in the community.

11:59And I'm excited what will happen.

12:01Yeah.

12:02No, I will just say it is it takes a lot for people to commit to to providing their

12:07expertise and their insight to the city and and to the city.

12:13And I think that's a great thing.

12:15Their expertise and their insight to the city.

12:17And and, you know, we've really appreciated a staff when we get such strong applications

12:23and people who really are interested in lending their expertise.

12:27Because I will say Council is always asking us, did you talk to the businesses?

12:32And we're economic development and tourism is really trying to grow

12:36everybody's engagement at the city with representatives from the business community.

12:41And with our and with our profit community and, you know, because we're

12:46because we're we're a city and we always want to make sure that we're speaking

12:51to people who actually know what's going on when it comes to growth and when it

12:54comes to making investments in this community.

12:57So we appreciate that you applied and we're so thrilled to have all of you here.

13:02Thank you.

13:03I think you're number one.

13:04Yeah, I'm a little.

13:06And all of this because we

13:09we have paid a lot of efforts to do advisory commentaries, recruitment

13:15and also artists done for that.

13:17And I just want to express my appreciation towards all of you, because

13:22that we were very excited when we we see applications like your application.

13:28So I just want to say thank you very much.

13:31Yeah.

13:32So for the links item actually is my item

13:38that's like to stop the first and share the platform.

13:46So so.

13:57OK, so I would talk about the roles and responsibilities and also some

14:02procedural training for for ACOC, particularly actually that we were

14:07speaking about the roles of members, role of chairs and role of just like

14:12Alex and me, what exactly we are doing.

14:16So, you know, I just wanted to like spending like I hope to spend like

14:22half hour on that because it's too much.

14:25OK, it's really too much.

14:26OK, so the gender, you can see the one to 10 that, you know,

14:29as some of them are short.

14:31OK, don't worry about it.

14:33It's one to 10. Yeah.

14:34So the first one is about the advisory committee's governance

14:39framework. Actually, I had a very special role on that because

14:44actually I am originally an academic scholar that working on this

14:50project specifically to change to redesign the ACOC for the city of growth.

14:56So two years ago, we started working on this project together with the city

15:01together, University of Grove and also the city of Grove together,

15:04and that we collaborate in the kind of like collaboration between the scholars

15:08and also their practitioners and to develop a kind of governance framework

15:14which is the only one in Ontario, I would say, or in Canada, actually.

15:19So this is a very, very big experiment for how to

15:24fly to, I would say, or like how to make our ACOC better.

15:28So, you know, in growth, that's just like we have 100

15:33citizens, I would say residents serving on ACOC, actually.

15:36And originally speaking, we have 14 ACOC.

15:40We have 106 members, actually.

15:43And, you know, but ACOC, advisory committee, it's not very

15:48it's not very attractive to the scholars because as rarely researched it,

15:54not a lot of evaluations, no one actually have any interest to know about this.

16:01But, you know, my team, as a kind of academic scholars and with

16:06universities, two professors together, we form a group and to want to support

16:11this kind of advisory committee is because you may know that this is a kind of

16:16like very resources consuming, actually, because we consume a lot of resources.

16:22For example, like we need to have procedures, we need to have staff to support

16:26compared to other kind of like community engagement, just like the town hall meetings

16:30or like the survey, you know, we use a lot of resources.

16:34We use a lot of public money to that.

16:36So, you know, if we do not have a very good framework to how to

16:41to guide the creation, how to how to decide is like to to maximize the function of this

16:47that actually we are wasting this.

16:48So, so this is why we have this kind of like research on that.

16:54So, recreated is using recorded community and get just scholarship,

16:59just like just like the collaboration between the academic and also the long

17:03academic partners.

17:05For this case, it's the city of growth and University of growth together.

17:08And because this is not this is not new, actually, because a lot of members

17:14that complain in front of media actually that we do not know what we are we are doing.

17:19We do not know what exactly that is is is is doing our comments.

17:26We put our comments and where it's going.

17:28Reduct now.

17:29So those kind of like I would say complain, OK, and is like we we would like

17:36to use this sling or to respond to this kind of this kind of like

17:41unsexed inspection, I would say.

17:43So we we have a lot of research doing.

17:47We have surveys and into our existing members.

17:51We have interviewed with them.

17:53We interview our council members and interview city staff like Alex and also

17:58like we have a working group that actually, yeah,

18:03she is one of our working group members that to have to develop our framework together.

18:09So finally, our framework was approved in I forgot it's on time ago.

18:14I'm sorry. Just like last year, November, and then we we implement this kind of

18:21framework like how to do improvement, this kind of language against the language

18:25and do some kind of like redesign of our existing committee.

18:29So the existing committees, the seven committees that already approved that in

18:34the last month council meeting.

18:35So I would say or do we search done and we all good.

18:41And we go into the next steps is we are now having you guys here to be our

18:46ACOC members and we try to new framework for the new the new practice of ACOC.

18:54So I would like to highlight something here's at the commitment.

18:58So this is what I'm very proud of when I wrote the governor's framework.

19:04Actually, we have some commitment for the advisory committee.

19:07So this is a kind of like community engagement.

19:09There's a kind of like a platform to shape the city's threat goals.

19:14This is very important because in the previous setting of ACOC,

19:18we do not have any language between like the city's strategies and also ACOC.

19:24They're not collected.

19:25Actually, we don't know how they collect.

19:27Okay.

19:27So we try to adopt the deliberative practice.

19:31That means that we can try like because maybe one member takes something and

19:37the second members, they don't agree.

19:40It's really doesn't matter.

19:41You know, we have a kind of processes like we have a kind of consensus at the end

19:47of this kind of discussion outcome.

19:48So this is a kind of recorded deliberative practice.

19:52We try to do this in any ACOC, the new ACOC.

19:58So we hope that ACOC should have some leave that and professional expertise,

20:03not just professional expertise, but some leave the expertise for itself.

20:07Like for example, like transportation advisory committees.

20:10Actually, we have a lot of members, they have leave the expertise to providers.

20:15What exactly they want to have in our transit services.

20:21Something like that.

20:22So we have diverse membership and also we need to establish a very clear

20:28communication between ACOC and City Council.

20:31How we can do this, because this is one of the, I would say grievances that

20:35the committees members complain about because they really don't know if they

20:39provide some kind of comments, feedback on some policy.

20:42They really don't know if the City Council will see it or like incorporate in

20:45their policy or what they really don't know.

20:47So we try to do better for the communication.

20:51And also it's like the seven point seven is very important because actually

20:57because ACOC is very need a lot of resources.

21:01Then we hope that we can support ACOC in a more sufficient way.

21:07You know, in the previous setting is like we just like trying to do something,

21:14something similar.

21:15But actually we do not have standardized procedures, but now we have

21:18seven committees we wanted to standardize all this stuff.

21:21So this is what we would like to highlight for the second commitment in our

21:27governance framework.

21:29And this is the critical features.

21:31Okay.

21:32So we want to establish effective communication.

21:36We would have our staff leaders on not doing any administrative things, not

21:41doing any procedural advice, but very strategic level responsibilities.

21:45So just like Alex and Christine, we're taking care of all strategic level things.

21:51Okay.

21:51And all the procedures and ministry and things collect office will be taking

21:56your care.

21:57So the division of labor will be clear, I would say.

22:00So we also have a terms of reference is clear up to date and we will

22:06regularly revisit it.

22:07So one year later or two years later, we will try to reveal our terms of

22:13reference together to see if this is still a line with the strike goals of

22:19the whole city.

22:20So it's more makes sense because because if our strike goals, especially

22:25because the election is coming next year in great.

22:27So, you know, you know, I would say the council council member may have

22:32different kind of strike goals they would like to have.

22:35Right.

22:35So how ACOC could match with or align with that kind of strike goal they

22:39propose that is very important.

22:41So we also try to do some new recruitment efforts.

22:46Of course, now we just doing target and recruitment.

22:48That means like we invite all the members or the advocates to apply by

22:53yourself, right?

22:54But actually that we also prepare something like random representative

22:58sampling that something like we just send out all the mail to, for example,

23:04like 1000 residents, invite them to apply to ACOC.

23:10But currently it's unfunded because the council not yet fund us this kind of

23:14like a recruitment effort.

23:16But we hope that we can get this one thing.

23:19Sorry to respond to you.

23:21Sorry.

23:21What sort of response of 1000?

23:24Just like we send out like mail out like invitation to like maybe 10,000

23:30residents.

23:31And if they are interested, they just come to us like, Hey, I'm

23:35interested.

23:35I'm asking what sort of response.

23:37Did you do this already or is it your intention?

23:40Intention in the future.

23:41Not yet funded.

23:42Yes.

23:43Yes.

23:43I'm sorry.

23:43Yeah.

23:44So yeah, we also like to we also propose compensation and coverage of

23:50participation related expenses.

23:53For example, like because we wanted to have more marginalized groups to be part

23:59of this, right?

24:00So we wanted to covering their participation related expenses, just like

24:06childcare, like mileage, transportation.

24:09And we also propose doing compensation for them.

24:12So this is also currently unfunded in the future.

24:16We hope to do that and we hope the council will fund us.

24:19Okay.

24:19So this is very important because we want our ACOC more diverse and also

24:27like attracting more marginalized group to be part of us.

24:30This is very important because from our survey, in the previous survey, we just

24:36sent out to more ACOC members, getting all the responses.

24:41And like, long-term speaking, the demographic data would be like more

24:48white men with a lot of income.

24:52So this is exactly what we get.

24:54Okay.

24:55So we hope this kind of redesign could attract more people who are actually

25:00affected by the policy, but they not yet participate in any policymaking process.

25:05So yeah.

25:08So at this moment, before I jump into that just related requirement, more boring

25:13one, I'm sorry.

25:15Any questions about the governance, framework or anything regarding the

25:19research process I could just answer.

25:23Anything?

25:25Okay.

25:26Thank you very much.

25:27Okay.

25:27So yeah, let's do a more boring one.

25:29Okay.

25:30Legislative.

25:30Wait, what?

25:32Okay.

25:32So this is a very procedural and very legislative.

25:36It's just like our meetings must be open to the public.

25:40That means they're just like here.

25:42Actually, the link is public.

25:44Everyone can join us, right?

25:46And everyone could just come to here to participate here, not just the members,

25:50but all the public can just come and sit here and listen to us.

25:54So this is, we call it according to legislative requirement.

25:58And also that all decision of advisory committees must be made through

26:03resolutions of advisory committees.

26:05That means that you need to pass resolutions.

26:08You want to provide some feedback to staff or the city council.

26:13You can just discuss and also say in the meeting and we'll just type it and

26:20you can pass the resolutions by vote.

26:24Okay.

26:24This is the way that we make decision for advisory committees.

26:28So, you know, ACOC feedback is provided on the topics is going before city council.

26:36And the resolutions might be communicated in full to the city council.

26:40That means that if the city council is going to do something, okay, and you

26:45already discussed something that you can just make a council pass a

26:50resolution and we will pass this to the city council.

26:53Okay.

26:54To let them know that this is your feedback.

26:55This is your comments on this.

26:57So meeting notice and agenda, just like the one that I sent to you guys,

27:03I will publish in advance of the meeting.

27:06You know, according to city council, actually one week, this is our time on.

27:11Okay.

27:12We will try to do this for all ACOC, but of course that's because to be honest,

27:17I said now clack office very, the human resources are very tight.

27:22Just me.

27:24So I will try to do this one week before it sent out to all of you to edge the

27:31gender and also all the public notice.

27:33And also the meeting minutes will be posted publicly following the meeting.

27:38So today after these meetings, the minutes will be where they like, I hope we'll

27:44be done like within one week.

27:46I was just sent to you or about, I mean, I'm in the minutes.

27:50So this is the very general procedures of our ACOC meeting.

27:56When can I clarify something?

27:57Yeah, sure.

27:58So with the meetings being open to the public, public could attend.

28:01I understand that they just come online or they can attend in person, but they

28:04cannot participate.

28:05Correct.

28:06They cannot participate.

28:07They cannot, they cannot wait to start to say quietly.

28:10No, no.

28:11Yeah.

28:12Yeah.

28:12Yeah.

28:12You can just like had a situation like that previously.

28:14Yeah.

28:14Yeah.

28:15Respect.

28:15Yeah.

28:16Actually, it's quite common if they join online because they may log mail to

28:20my or something like that.

28:22Yeah.

28:22But as we're not allowed to, yeah, they will not allow them to or, or if they

28:28said they would like to delegate for some light, they just send us emails.

28:32Say, I would like to delegate on this item.

28:35They can just have five minutes to speak on that item only.

28:39So if someone delegates, I will let you know that, oh, some public will delegate.

28:45So all of you will know that this item will have delegates.

28:48So they can delegate.

28:49They can delegate.

28:50Yeah.

28:50Exactly.

28:51Exactly.

28:51So they will have five minutes to say on the item, to speak on the items.

28:56Yeah.

28:56So it's very common for some of the ACOC, for example, like heritage, because they,

29:01they are the owners of that home.

29:03So they just come to us and say, I just want to speak on that item.

29:08So I read them because I, I didn't participate in tourism and economic before.

29:14So I read them if no, no, no, no, we, we have never gotten a delegate.

29:20And I would say, you know, tourism, well, I've been running it.

29:24It has never gotten even anyone who, who tunes it online.

29:28But yeah, we did have some, yeah.

29:30G-Dactyne had G-Dactyne.

29:31Yeah.

29:31Yeah.

29:32Yeah.

29:33So, yeah.

29:33See if you in one line that somebody's.

29:36Yeah.

29:36If someone joined, then we can see, but not just me.

29:40Yeah.

29:41Yeah.

29:41It would, it would show up here on like the side that someone said.

29:46Yeah.

29:46So yes, the link is online through the exact same platform that we have

29:52council meetings, right?

29:53So.

29:54Yeah.

29:55Okay.

29:56So I would just go ahead.

29:59Okay.

30:00Um, just so boring.

30:02Sorry.

30:02What is a meeting?

30:03Okay.

30:05Actually, um, for any meetings, we need to meet Corum.

30:08Corum is where, you know, for our ad deck, these committees, we need to have 50%

30:14plus one.

30:15Okay.

30:15For example, like if we have, um, we have four members, like eight members, right?

30:21That we need to have five of us here.

30:24If we do not have five of us, that is, is not, um, it's not a real problem

30:31because we minimum that we need to have three actually.

30:35So, uh, that means that for, for this example, it's like three to five is

30:40acceptable for meeting a Corum.

30:42So we changed this.

30:43Actually, we changed this Corum, uh, regulations because, uh, in the past,

30:48that we need to have, um, uh, 50% plus one, but it's not important to members,

30:54but it's like the total number of members.

30:56For example, like if we want our committees, like 15 members, that we need

31:01to have eight members to meet the Corum.

31:04But actually that we just have like my members here because, uh, six of them

31:08already resigned.

31:10Okay.

31:10So this, we changed this because we had a lot of difficulties to meet Corum

31:15before a lot.

31:16Actually, you, you, you, you, you, you, you really struggling the past few months.

31:22Yeah.

31:23Yeah.

31:23It's not just for tourism, but actually for a lot of, uh, advisory committees,

31:28just like, uh, you know, planning, like our department is that we very hard to

31:33get Corum actually because people are very busy.

31:36We know that.

31:36So, uh, we changed the, we changed the routes.

31:39Uh, just want to get the business, uh, just go on.

31:43Right.

31:43So yeah, something like that.

31:45So, okay.

31:45So, um, I would say this is not, uh, very, yeah.

31:54I think, I think I would just speak on the, uh, the, the last point.

31:58Okay.

31:58All meetings might be held with prior notice given to the public.

32:02That means that we need to publish the dates.

32:04We need to publish the agenda to the public.

32:07This is according to the legislation and, uh, we need to open to the public to attend.

32:12And we have agenda materials, including the pop horns, the report from staff and

32:16also order stuff there.

32:18And we need to have the minutes post-public following the meeting.

32:21So this is the very general procedures.

32:23One week before the meetings, um, sorry, I published the agenda one week, one week

32:30after the meeting, we published the meeting.

32:31So this is the general procedures of, of a meeting.

32:35Um, how we provide feedback to staff in cancer.

32:40So the only way that ACOC provide formal feedback is through passing a

32:45bad solutions, just like I, what I said is like you pass resolutions in the meetings

32:51and we will pass the resolution to the console because every week.

32:56Oh, I remember it's Friday.

32:59We have information line to the council members.

33:01So they can know, they just can know what exactly the ACOC passed resolutions.

33:06What exactly that you discussed and also what exactly that you want them to hear

33:11from you.

33:12So this is the only way that we, uh, we, we provide feedback to them.

33:16So, um, we need 50% plus one majority of the member to approve the resolutions.

33:24For example, like, uh, now we have one, two, three, four, five, six, right?

33:29Okay.

33:29So we need to have four members to say yes to a resolutions.

33:33And then we say carried carried inside past.

33:36And then we just, we will pass this resolutions to the council,

33:40so council members have also a council.

33:42So, uh, this is the, um, so we're procedures are passing a resolutions.

33:47So any questions on that?

33:52Okay.

33:52Okay.

33:53So I go on.

33:54So, and, um, we can provide advice directly to staff, just like if, you know,

34:00I'd like to hear from you on particular policy or program, you know,

34:05artists will get your feedback.

34:06And also you, we, you know, some of the stuff will come here to get your feedback

34:11and provide to the city council.

34:13So there are two types.

34:14I would say generally two types of things.

34:16So, um, we, you know, just like we made fresh resolutions in the meetings and

34:23also, uh, it's like, uh, let me see.

34:25This is not, yeah, I spoke about this.

34:28So we can, the information I saw this Friday that we just provide to all council

34:33members about all ACOC activities and also all of extolutions you vote on them.

34:39So we need to report that council gets, right?

34:42Is it a report that they get?

34:44Um, it's just like, yeah, I would say, yeah, exactly.

34:48Exactly.

34:48Some report or some kind of like, you know, you know, actually we got a lot of, um,

34:54um, emails from the council members like, oh, uh, yeah.

34:59Planting comment is common on that.

35:01So could you elaborate a little bit on that?

35:03Something like, so they would just, uh, you reach out to the clerk offers to have

35:07some clarification, what happened in the meeting, something like that.

35:10So actually we got, we have a lot of interaction with the council members on

35:14ACOC items that are in the past.

35:17So I think it's upcoming ones will be the same that they will have some, uh, feedback

35:23or like, uh, some follow up questions that, uh, we are always doing actually

35:27everything doing this.

35:28Yeah.

35:28I know.

35:29I just want to clarify.

35:30So, um, so this is like the ACOC, like this is the meeting that council gets the

35:36report every Friday, but if a staff department comes and they are actually

35:40going to council with a staff report and they have consulted with ed tech.

35:44And let's say they came, they, they're, let's say they're working on a new

35:48parking strategy, right?

35:49And they, we, they have asked you, what do you think of the staff recommendations

35:53for this parking strategy?

35:55Well, if you don't agree with the staff recommendations and you pass a resolution

35:58where ed tech is not in support of, you know, parking on the top of city hall.

36:05Okay.

36:05Well, then in the staff report, it would say, you know, under our consultations

36:11heading, cause that's part of it.

36:12We consulted the economic development and tourism advisory committee.

36:15Here were the motions that they passed in relation to that, that staff report.

36:21So council will have a list of all the motion of everybody who was consulted

36:25and every motion that was made to help them inform their decision.

36:30Yeah.

36:32We're not going to part of that.

36:36Okay.

36:36So this is the second boring things.

36:39I'm sorry.

36:40Too much.

36:40Um, cook up conduct.

36:42So, um, we have cook of conduct in the email I sent to you guys that actually

36:47there's a link called code of conduct for the city council and also local

36:51boards.

36:51We are local boards.

36:52Okay.

36:53ACOC is part of the local board.

36:54So, um, our code of conduct is, you know, applied to or ACOC matters.

36:59So, uh, we cover behaviors, um, any, any, anything regarding like online

37:06social media things, uh, or the stuff that you can just, um, go back to the code

37:10of conduct documents because it's too long.

37:13Okay.

37:13But I would say it's like, um, many sections of that only applicable to

37:18members of city council.

37:19That means that the city council members need to, uh, you know, their

37:22code of conduct to align with those kind of sections, but part of it will be

37:27related to, um, ACOC members.

37:29So, um, this is not, um, um, very, I would say it's like, um, one of that will

37:37be the most important, I would say, is conflict of interest.

37:40Um, as for what I, I, I said earlier, actually that we, we need to know,

37:45we will know about that.

37:46This, uh, some project or like some policy will, you will have some conflict

37:51between interests.

37:52If you don't know, just email me because I receive a lot of emails like this

37:56asking me like, Oh, I have this comment.

37:58I had this home and you will talk about this street.

38:02So you should like submit some kind of conflict of interest report to you.

38:06And I will, I will, I will, um, let you know our advice on that.

38:10So, uh, if you have any, uh, forks or like, at the, at the, at the consideration

38:16regarding conflict of interest thing, you just email me if we don't know the answer.

38:20You know, so, um, for other sections, there's like given valid various

38:23companies, the nationalities, contact influence on stuff and important use of

38:27interest that may apply to ACOC members.

38:31But I would say contact of interest would be the most, um, important that we

38:35need to take care of.

38:36Yeah.

38:37So, okay.

38:40Um, I will leave this part to maybe like, uh, meeting because, uh, this is not

38:48my, um, expertise.

38:50I don't want to say anything not appropriate for lobbyist registry because

38:55Garrett will be the one that will know more about this.

38:58So I will leave this just like spending like five minutes, like

39:01this week that we will just talk about lobbyist registry that, uh, that I

39:06really, um, have don't have 100% confidence to talk about it.

39:11So I will just leave it.

39:13And, okay, terms of reference.

39:14So, uh, we have a terms of reference for every single advisory committee.

39:18So, um, you know, for the terms of reference, we have our mandate, our, our

39:25composition and membership, the rows of members, chairs, vice chairs, uh,

39:30client office, uh, staff liaison and our meeting schedule and format.

39:34Actually, our terms of reference is a kind of like backbone of the whole

39:38advisory committee.

39:39So, um, and also it's like, um, this document is very important because we

39:44will reveal it, uh, in a two years timeline that we will reveal it according to

39:50what exactly the city council want us to have, uh, for the strike goals and

39:54other things.

39:55So, um, if, you know, if you have time, uh, that's just go to read the terms

40:00of reference of the economic development and tourism advisory committees,

40:05you may see more like the mandates and also like, uh, what exactly the

40:10purposes of this advisory committee is.

40:13And row of staff liaison, uh, that means Alex and Christine, that, uh,

40:19actually they will be the one advanced on high level decision making.

40:25And, you know, have, you know, because they are, uh, the subject expertise,

40:30economic development and also tourism so that they know about the strike

40:34goals and also priorities of the, of the city.

40:36Um, for this area, I would say.

40:39So, um, actually, uh, they will be the one and sure that the advisory

40:44committee will contribute to the, to the overall goals of the city.

40:49Um, for ATAC, of course, economic development and also tourism.

40:53And also it's like, um, they also, they also will provide some kind of technical

40:58terms, maybe some knowledge, maybe some skills, um, relevant to the ACOC mandates,

41:04uh, regarding economic development and also tourism.

41:07And also it's like, um, we also, you know, Stavias and we also do the consensus

41:11building and also, and if, um, some kind of like, uh, facilitations and also,

41:17um, yeah, they will know.

41:19Yeah, I would say, yeah.

41:20So, yeah, you will know.

41:23Yeah.

41:23So, click office wrote, that means me or Garrett or at least that, um, we need

41:30to ensure you guys well informed for the all meeting procedures and also how to

41:35participate in ACOC.

41:37We coordinate the meeting, we'll communicate and also

41:40violinizing the dates, communicate with the chairs, the vice chair, and also we

41:45will provide secretary that will take little support and all the stuff, all

41:49the publication, distribution on meeting agenda, minutes, all the stuff.

41:52Okay.

41:53So all the documentation or, or the, all the, the vacations or the rules that,

41:58uh, we were taken care of by us.

42:01So we also presented the presentation.

42:03For example, like if someone delegates that we will let you know, and also we

42:07will control, um, the timing of the, um, manage the timing of the whole,

42:12whole meeting, something like that.

42:13So I would say it's secretariat, technical order stuff, I would say.

42:18So, or somewhere we're taking care of the city, class office.

42:21So, and, um, role of ACOC members.

42:25So, uh, we hope that the ACOC member could well prepare to attend and participate

42:30in meetings, congregate, or contribute your skills, knowledge, and also experiences.

42:35And also, um, I, you know, this is, um, my personal will, I would say, uh, to be

42:41more curious and also flexible in discussion that actually I, I would say

42:46from my, um, academic perspective, I would say I really encourage diverse

42:50will points to discussion and also deliberation process.

42:54It's really doesn't matter if we do not have our very quick consensus.

42:59Uh, finally, we have consensus is, is really good already.

43:03So I would say it's like the discussion I cherish very much on that.

43:07And we hope that this kind of redesign of ACOC could realize this kind of

43:12process in during our meeting.

43:14So, and also actually role of ACOC members, we hope that not whole.

43:19Uh, we, we will force you guys, I'm sorry, to attend the mandatory training, uh,

43:24just like today once at that, uh, we hope that you can just participate or mandatory

43:29training.

43:30And also we will have some kind of like optional training to be provided to all

43:35the ACOC members.

43:36You will receive our information later about the training.

43:40So, uh, basic meeting procedures.

43:45Okay.

43:45So, um, how to, how to do.

43:52Resolutions of this is what I want to want to want to speak on that.

43:55So, um, we may have the discussion and we may come up a kind of like so core,

44:03some kind of resolution sentence, some kind of description, right?

44:07And then everyone will look at the monitors because all the rest of them will

44:12be shown on the monitors.

44:14And then you can vote on that.

44:17You, you vote yes or vote no.

44:20Okay.

44:20So yes, if, you know, 50% plus one of us say yes.

44:26And then the resolution will be passed.

44:28So we need one member to move a motion.

44:31We need an other member to second the motion.

44:35And then the first steps would be like, is it anyone against?

44:40If no, this motion will be passed.

44:43So this is to bruise and also the so called the procedures are passing, uh,

44:48resolutions.

44:49So, um, any questions?

44:52This is quite important actually.

44:54So I will be sure that then.

44:56Okay.

44:58You'll guide us at the time too.

44:59I'm sure.

44:59Yeah.

45:00Yeah, I would be here.

45:00Yeah.

45:01Yeah.

45:02Sure.

45:02No pressure.

45:03We'll typically have proposed resolution, like, yeah, like a framework to work on.

45:08Yeah.

45:08Um, as that we move through.

45:10So if you won't have to just craft the most out of it.

45:13Yeah.

45:13Yeah.

45:13Yeah.

45:14Yeah.

45:14Yeah.

45:14Yeah.

45:14We will propose it.

45:15Yeah.

45:15We will draft it.

45:16So, okay.

45:16You can just, you know, um, say we need, oh, maybe we can use this word or use this term.

45:22You just let me know.

45:23Okay.

45:23And we finalize, we will finalize the motions and you can just, oh, one member's move it.

45:29One member's second.

45:30And we will just say anyone against anyone's, you know, support something like that.

45:34So we were just like 50% plus one.

45:37That would be the final decision making of that resolution.

45:40So yeah, we'll go through this for sure.

45:45So how to write a resolution.

45:47So of course we will be the one, uh, help drafting.

45:52But of course we were just, uh, wanted to provide some good resolution.

45:55Some of us just like that fantastic growth of transit strategy included as a

46:01attachment one to the future of road transit report dated when be approved.

46:06That means that members will approve that.

46:08Do just voted.

46:09And the feedback provided by a grocery community regarding what include as attachment, what,

46:16to what report dated, what be considered by staff and the least of feedback.

46:21We will list it under, under the second point, something like that.

46:25So this is a, so for the good resolution examples.

46:30Of course, not so good.

46:32That mean bad.

46:32Okay.

46:33So, uh, be endorsed to report beyond doors or like, uh,

46:38consider the feedback, the bar, them to consider bar stuff.

46:41But actually that is, actually it's no resolution.

46:44They are, it's not exactly very precise or like accurate.

46:48So, uh, we will try to do this to draft some very good resolutions to get.

46:53Okay.

46:54So client office will have.

46:56So, um, a gender.

46:59So how we establish or develop a gender.

47:02So it's just a gender.

47:04I developed by stuff just like, uh, we will collaborate together.

47:08Alex, uh, Christine and me will do the agenda together and that we will send to chair to

47:14review and approve.

47:15Okay.

47:16So, uh, public, you know, one week before the meetings that we will pose publicly.

47:21So this is the process.

47:22Of course, um, or the members can request any item to add to the future agendas.

47:28Uh, we will have some kind of criteria just like, because.

47:32We may have a lot of agenda items.

47:34We will prioritize and let you know why we prioritize like this.

47:38Why what's the reasons like this.

47:40So, um, and also that, uh, of course, the ACLC agenda item must be alive with

47:45consistent with the terms of reference is relevant to the ACLC per se.

47:49You know, we couldn't do anything not relevant to the, to, to, to the ACLC and,

47:56and, uh, um, yeah.

48:01So, um, report from staff, actually that we will not, we will receive a lot of

48:06reports from staff, uh, should include a recommendation.

48:10That means that a report, um, I would say the first part would be the recommendation.

48:17Okay.

48:17So you will see what exactly the recommendation are proposed by staff and all the

48:23information materials will be attached to the agenda.

48:27So, um, yeah, something like that.

48:29So I would say it's like, uh, gender speaking, the agenda will be

48:34draft by staff, but of course, uh, chair will review it and approve this.

48:38And, um, members could just propose some items will be added to the future agenda

48:44and not exactly, may not be the, uh, the upcoming one, but maybe in the future.

48:49So it's according to our priorities and maybe some items very time sensitive,

48:54you know, so we need that.

48:55Okay.

48:56To, to get your opinion and your feedback in the, in the, in the next, uh, meeting.

49:01So yeah.

49:03Okay.

49:04I talked too much.

49:05I'm sorry.

49:05So, uh, always here to help, uh, just email, email adversarialcommitist at growth.ca

49:13and, um, anything or anything's very specific or a topic related or you can just

49:20email to Alex and Christine.

49:23Yep.

49:24Yep.

49:24So any questions?

49:30Ones the test.

49:33Yeah.

49:33What's the test money?

49:35In my, yeah.

49:37Um, no, and I will just say so, um, so Christina and I from the economic

49:42development tourism perspective, we will have reports for you, but we will also be

49:46inviting our colleagues to bring forward items.

49:48So if there is something that is affecting your, your business or the business that

49:52you represent to the organization that you represent, um, whether it be a

49:56bylaw or maybe there you've heard, you know, rumblings of a new water strategy or

50:01something, right?

50:02Maybe we're going to start charging different, uh, user fees or that sort of

50:06thing.

50:07If you, if you hear about this, your organization, you're interested in talking

50:10about it, those are the kinds of things that we would want you to see you bring

50:13forward to us as potential agenda topics so that we could then invite the

50:18appropriate staff people to come and chat with us and say, you know, this has come

50:22up from our advisory committee.

50:23Um, would you mind presenting and then receiving feedback on that?

50:27And then that way if that strategy or that bylaw is up for renewal or we're

50:31looking at the bylaw, you know, um, we can, we can go, uh, to counsel with, with

50:38advice or with a recommendation, not advice, a recommendation from, from our advisory

50:43committee so that council knows that, um, that we've been consulted.

50:47We've, we've provided that, that insight.

50:49So, um, but we'll also have lots of stuff to talk to you guys about, um, based

50:54around our economic development and tourism advisory strategy and that's

50:59your thing.

50:59I'm sure certain topics will also peak other topics, right?

51:02Like certain topics presented and then I'm like, Oh, well, we need to know more

51:06about that and then that might potentially be the next.

51:08Yeah.

51:09Totally.

51:09Yeah.

51:10So, um, so I'll just give, I'll just give some examples.

51:13So like, um, you know, last year we, we talked to the, uh, uh, wealth economic

51:19development, uh, advisory committee about construction communications, right?

51:24You're, you represent a business who, you know, the road in front of you was

51:28under construction, a lot of sure you didn't feel like you had great

51:31communication from the city.

51:33Well, we came and we asked you, you know, how could we improve?

51:36What are the tactics that might be better for communicating to residents, to

51:39your employees, but also getting people into the business, right?

51:42So, um, and then we take that back and we, we incorporate that.

51:47That doesn't, that didn't necessarily come to council, but something

51:50that did come to council, you know, was, um, you know, our, uh, the plastics

51:56bylaw, the, um, uh, waste, the waste and reusable and singly single use, right?

52:04And so like that was an example of this is going to impact businesses, whether

52:08it's straws, takeout containers, those kinds of things.

52:11Um, so we came to, to GDAC asked for perspective on that.

52:16And then that bylaw actually went forward to council saying, you know, we consulted.

52:20So those are the kinds of ways that we will incorporate your feedback strategically.

52:25Um, whether it goes to council or whether it comes back into city hall, but we

52:29will always let you know how your feedback has been incorporated, whether

52:33it's just with staff or with council.

52:37Cool.

52:38Yep.

52:40Okay.

52:43So for the next item, uh, is the election of our committee chair and vice chair.

52:49So, uh, the steps will be like, uh, we can nominate someone or you

52:55can self-nominate yourself.

53:00So, um, maybe just clarifying once again, your responsibility of the chair

53:04and the vice chair.

53:05So our, um, our chair, we will, our chair and our vice chair, we will

53:10consult with you about the agenda, right?

53:13That might look like a meeting if you want a meeting, but we're also

53:16comfortable with it just being, Hey, this is the agenda that's coming forward.

53:20Um, does this look good?

53:22Right.

53:22You would review it.

53:24Let us know.

53:24Yep.

53:25That looks good.

53:26Oh, well, you know, I did hear, you know, from Dennis that he really wanted

53:30to talk about parking on city hall.

53:33Um, is that, is that, can that be considered?

53:37Oh yeah.

53:37I, we might be able to get parking in, but maybe that's the next meeting, right?

53:41So maybe like that's kind of what it would look like.

53:44Um, and then, uh, our chair would just move us through the meeting.

53:49Is that right?

53:50As well.

53:51Yes.

53:51So don't, yeah, but always supported by clerks who will help us make sure that

53:56we're meeting, um, the requirements of, uh, the policy and that sort of thing.

54:01So that's what Stacy Washington was doing in our group.

54:03Yep.

54:06Christa has been a chair before.

54:09Chair and vice chair.

54:10Yeah.

54:11Yeah.

54:12So, and then the vice chair is just in the backup if, uh, the chair is away or can't

54:18make it.

54:19Yeah.

54:19Yeah.

54:19Yeah.

54:21Which is what Susan did.

54:22Oh, I can't, I can't.

54:24Quite a few times.

54:24Right.

54:25Right.

54:25Right.

54:25Okay.

54:25Got you.

54:26Or if the chair had the two excuse from the meeting, yeah, come and call

54:29them an interest, a call.

54:30That, uh, vice chair need to cover the role of chair.

54:34Yeah.

54:34Yeah.

54:35So any, um, nomination, though, someone have a burning desire,

54:40to, I think so.

54:44I'll, I'll, I'll volunteer.

54:47No one else.

54:48If anyone desperately wants it, I would stand aside, but if there's no one willing

54:52to do it, desperately, does anybody desperately want it?

54:55I can, I can attempt to take that on.

55:00Are you interested in chair position?

55:03Uh, yeah.

55:03A little bit.

55:04Yeah.

55:04Okay.

55:04Well, I'll, I'll vice chair.

55:05That's the case.

55:07Okay.

55:07So, Damien Smith.

55:09Yeah.

55:09Chris Omnes.

55:11Okay.

55:11So, um, we may need to vote for, because you sell it lonely and we need to know

55:17about, yeah, we need to vote on that.

55:20So, so may I know if anyone support.

55:27Okay.

55:28Personally, I'm not sure.

55:29Yeah.

55:30Okay.

55:30The resolution process.

55:31Okay.

55:32And, uh, now for the vice chair that, uh, because you are not here.

55:39So you may ask us, anyone support or against.

55:44So I show up, hands, all those in favor of Christalas vice chair.

55:50This is going so well.

55:53Okay.

55:53So, yeah.

55:54So, yeah.

55:55Yes.

55:55Okay.

55:55Okay.

55:56Oh, carry it.

55:57So yeah, that's it.

55:59So, um, chair that we, uh, need to go to the adjournment of this meeting.

56:04So, um, we may just ask, uh, some members, uh, one member to move and one

56:11member to second and we vote on.

56:14Yes.

56:15We are adjourning.

56:15We think a lot of, yeah.

56:16Uh, may I have someone, um, to move the recommendation and close the meeting.

56:23Move.

56:24And someone to second the motion please.

56:27Yeah.

56:27Thank you.

56:28Meeting adjourned.

56:30Oh, thank you.

56:32Yeah.

56:32And may I ask when we need to do before when we run on a Gdack, we had a script for the

56:38chair to utilize?

56:39We will.

56:40We will.

56:41Just so you know, the minutes, we would have actual script.

56:43So you don't follow it through.

56:45It was a lot easier to yes, exactly.

56:47Exactly.

56:48We give you time stamps where an agenda item is going too long or like rapid up.

56:53Yeah.

56:54You say it.

56:54Give me the look.

56:55Wrap it up.

56:57I'll take that.

56:58Awesome.

56:58So that was our first.

57:00Congratulations.

57:01I've been having a development and tourism advisory committee meeting.