Committee of Adjustment

0:24Good afternoon, Guelph, and I'd like to call to order the May 9th, 2024 hearing of the Guelph

0:30Committee of Adjustment. This hearing is being held in a hybrid format with attendees appearing in

0:36person and or remotely and is being live-streamed and recorded. Please be advised that public hearings

0:43form part of the public record and the words, names, and images of those participating shall be

0:49recorded and posted online. Before I outline the hearing format, if you do wish to speak to an

0:56application that's listed on the agenda and have not yet submitted a request in advance of the

1:03hearing, please call the number displayed now on the screen, which is 519-822-1260, extension 2524.

1:14That's 519-822-1260, extension 2524, and you shall receive instructions on how to participate.

1:24A final call for delegations will be made when each application is called. The agenda for this

1:30hearing has been posted online at guelph.ca forward slash c-o-f-a. I will remind all committee members

1:40and staff participating in this hearing to please unmute your microphones when not in use.

1:47Applicants will be unmuted when their application is called. I'd also like to share the hearing

1:54format we will be using to navigate through each application. Each applicant will be called by the

2:00secretary-treasurer and the call-in number for those wishing to speak to an application will

2:05be displayed on the screen. Afterwards, the applicant will be given an opportunity to add

2:12anything further to their application to a maximum of 10 minutes. You will hear a chime when there

2:18are 30 seconds left and another when the 10 minutes have expired. If you are the applicant and have

2:25nothing further to add, you can simply say that you have nothing further to add. The committee

2:32will then be asked to question the applicant or staff. After that, we will hear from members of

2:38the public who wish to comment on the application. Please note that all comments should be addressed

2:45through myself the chair. Please avoid repeating any concerns already stated by others and focus

2:52on adding new information. Comments are limited to 10 minutes or less. You will hear a chime

2:59when there are 30 seconds left and another when the 10 minutes have elapsed. Any members of the

3:05public who have submitted a request to speak prior to the hearing will be first invited to

3:12provide comments. For those watching the hearing online, if you wish to speak to an application

3:18and have not yet submitted a request in advance of the hearing, please call the number displayed

3:23on the screen now. For those attending the hearing in person, you will also be given a chance to come

3:29forward to the podium and address the committee. Once all comments from the public have been heard,

3:36the applicant or staff will be given opportunity to respond to the comments. Finally, I shall

3:42turn to the committee with a form of motion and a liberation and then a vote on the application.

3:49When the committee is making a decision on an application, the chair will be asking the

3:54secretary treasurer to conduct a vote by roll call. The secretary treasurer will call each

4:00member's name and the member will respond if they are in favor or opposed to the motion

4:06and the chair will announce the result of the vote. If you wish to receive a copy of the decision

4:14of an application, including information about the appeal procedure, you must submit a written

4:20request. A written request can be made by contacting staff using the contact information

4:26shown now on the screen. To receive a copy of the decision, please email cofa at wealth.ca

4:36with your name, the file number that you're interested in. Please note, owners and applicants

4:42automatically receive a copy of the decision. At this point, I would like to ask member Siegel

4:50to provide our territorial acknowledgement. Member Siegel. Thank you. As we gather, let us

4:59take time to reflect on our privilege to live and work in Guelph, a city built over rich indigenous

5:05histories. We are guests here. We should reflect upon the responsibility to care for the land,

5:09the people who live here today, and the generations to come. If our actions today can move us towards

5:15reconciliation, we should take pause and make those decisions with intention and gratitude.

5:20This place we call Guelph has served as traditional lands and a place of refuge for many peoples over

5:25time, but more specifically, the Adua Darank and the Haudenosaunee. This land is held as the treaty

5:32lands and territory with the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation. Guelph lies directly adjacent

5:38to the Haldeman tract and is part of a long established traditional hunting ground for the

5:43six nations of the Grand River. Many First Nations, Inuit, and Métis people who have come from across

5:49Turtle Island call Guelph home today. Thank you, member Siegel. Committee members, I would like

5:58to ask if there are any pecuniary interests, and if so, if you would indicate such. Seeing none,

6:07I would like a motion to approve our meeting, our meeting agenda minutes from the last meeting.

6:16Member Spears and a seconder.

6:22Member Goodfellow, all those in favor, I believe that's carried, Madam Secretary Treasurer.

6:33That's carried, Mr. Chair. Thank you. At this point, Madam Secretary Treasurer,

6:39are there any deferral requests? Thank you, Chair. We do have a deferral request from the

6:47agent for file A-22-24 for 52 Surrey Street West. The agent has requested deferral of the file in

6:56order to address the concerns from the Grand River Conservation Authority, as outlined in the staff

7:02comments. The agent has advised that they won't be in attendance this evening, so I'll turn it over

7:06to the chair to address this deferral request. Thank you, Madam Secretary Treasurer. Committee

7:13members, do we have a motion to defer this application? Member Spears and a seconder.

7:33Member Mambreno, I'm sorry I tripped over that member Mambreno. There is no debate on a

7:44on a motion to defer, so I'm going to turn it over to our Secretary Treasurer to conduct the vote.

7:51Committee members, please indicate your vote by responding in favor or opposed to the motion,

7:55which is to defer the application. Chair Smith? In favor. Member Bauman? In favor.

8:02Member Goodfellow? In favor. Member Mambreno? In favor. Member Ser? In favor. Member Siegel?

8:14In favor. And Member Spears? In favor. That's carried, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

8:20So that has been deferred to a future meeting. Madam Secretary Treasurer, may we have the

8:28first applicant? The first application is file A-23-24, Variants to Permit Existing Accessory

8:45Structure, Shed in Exterior Side Yard at 9 Webster Street. I'll note for those watching

8:52the hearing remotely, if you wish to speak to this application, you can do so by calling the

8:56number displayed on the screen. That number is 519-822-1260, extension 2524, and when you call

9:05in, staff will give you instructions on how you can delegate remotely. Is the applicant present

9:13or are they remote? Mr. Chair, the applicant will be appearing via video. They're just turning

9:25their camera on. Thank you. Welcome. We can't hear you, but when we can hear you, can you state

9:38your name for the record, please? Yes, you need to unmute your microphone. Unfortunately, we can't

9:51hear you. My name is Catherine Kirkland. And can you state your relationship to the application?

10:15I am a co-owner of the property at 9 Webster Street. Thank you. And can you tell me if the sign

10:24was posted as for the Planning Act? Yes, we are a corner property, so there are two signs, and they

10:31were posted a week ago Monday, one on each of the streets that the property is facing.

10:39Thank you. So you have 10 minutes to make your presentation, and you can take as much or as

10:47little time of that as you'd like. All right. Thank you. We moved in about 10 years ago,

10:55and we put a shed in the property, and we did not realize that corner properties have different

11:02rules than regular properties. And we used the typical variance of the 0.6 meters, and it was

11:12only recently in February when we acquired a small three-person hot tub and applied for a permit

11:20when the sketch revealed that the shed was not where it should be. And in that time, we had planted

11:27a few other things, and the property is not very big, so there isn't really another place for the

11:42shed, unfortunately. So we were hoping to get a variance so that we did not have to move the shed.

11:50And we received recommendations from the city with conditions to say that the shed

12:01not used for human habitation, and that the structure, the variance only applies to the

12:07shed, and that all makes perfect sense. So yeah, I think that's it. But if anyone has any questions,

12:15please feel free to ask. Thank you very much. And if you'd want to wait right there, I'll turn to

12:22my colleagues and see if they do have any questions for you. Just a moment, please. Committee members,

12:27do we have any questions of this applicant? Seeing none. Committee members, do you, what is your

12:40your wish? Do you have a motion? Oh, sorry, we need to find out if there is anyone who would like

12:47to speak to this. I do apologize. There doesn't appear to be anyone in the chamber online. Is there

12:54anyone? Chair Smith, I can confirm we haven't received any delegation requests. Okay. At this point,

13:02then, committee members, what is your wish?

13:11Member Spears, thank you. And do we have a seconder? Member Balaban? And is there any

13:26debate on the motion before us? I see none. Madam Secretary Treasurer, can you call the roll, please?

13:38Thank you, Chair. Committee members, please indicate your vote by responding in favor or opposed to

13:42the motion, which is to approve the application with the one recommended condition. Chair Smith?

13:49In favor. Member Balaban? In favor. Member Goodfellow? In favor. Member Mbrenno? In favor.

14:00Member Sear? In favor. Member Segal? In favor. And Member Spears? In favor. That's carried, Mr. Chair.

14:11Thank you, Madam Secretary Treasurer. Your application has been approved and you're free to

14:18leave the meeting if you wish. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for everybody's help in this

14:24process. You're welcome. Madam Secretary Treasurer, may we have the next application? The next

14:40application is file A-24 slash 24, bariances to permit reduced setbacks for proposed residential

14:47addition in Carport, permit portion of addition in Sightline Triangle, and increase projection

14:52for proposed front porch at 57 Grains Street. I'll note for those attending remotely, if you wish

14:58to speak to this application, you can do so by calling the number displayed on the screen. The

15:03number is 519-822-1260 extension 2524. And when you call in, staff will give you instructions on

15:10how you can delegate remotely. Is the applicant in attendance? Good afternoon. Please come forward

15:18to the microphone. Hello. Welcome. Can you state your name for the record, please? My name is David

15:27Weatherson. And can you tell me if the sign was posted as per the Planning Act? We live on a corner

15:34also. We had two signs, one on each street. And have you read staff's comments and are you in agreement?

15:42I'm sorry? Have you read the staff's comments? About the recommendations? Yes. Yeah, they said

15:50everything was okay. Sorry. Thank you. We have 10 minutes to address the committee if you'd like to

15:56make time. Okay. Well, we've lived there for 25 years. There's been an accessory apartment upstairs,

16:02which we want to turn into part of the home and invite our in-laws to move in on the first floor,

16:08my in-laws. So it's an extended family situation. Most of the variances are for existing buildings.

16:17It's a very old house. And it's close to the street because the city has moved sidewalks and such

16:24over time. So the carport is sort of in line with the house. We wanted to do it so that the

16:32house looks like it doesn't have an addition. It looks like an actual home. Over the years,

16:36people have added things to the house that don't fit. So we're going to turn the one and a half

16:41story into a two-story. So it looks like a proper home that fits in with the neighborhood. I think

16:47that's everything for today. Thank you. If you want to overweight right there, my colleagues may

16:52have some questions for you. Committee members, do we have any questions of this applicant?

17:00Yes, members, Pierce. Yeah, to the applicant through you, Mr. Chair, I just want to make sure

17:05when you said that the city said everything was okay, there is a document with the conditions

17:10recommended by the city to go with your application. And I just want to be sure you're aware of those

17:15conditions. It sounds like perhaps you didn't see them. No, I did read it over. The conditions were,

17:21what I understood was that the building is existing so that I had to, I couldn't project out any

17:27further. Am I mistaken? There's four recommendations here. One from Planning Services,

17:34one Engineering Services, one Building Services, and one Electro Utilities. Yeah. And when we do go,

17:41if we go forward with this and move to approve the application, it will be with those conditions.

17:46And I want to be sure that you're, that you understand the conditions and you agree with them.

17:51I think I understand all the conditions. Most of it had to be done because of the building,

17:56like the electrical, had to be moved and such. Okay. Yeah. Great. That's all I wanted to be sure of.

18:01Thank you. Thank you, members, peers. Any other questions of this applicant?

18:12Seeing none, committee members, what is your preference? Oh, again, I'm reminded online. Are

18:19there any, or in the gallery, are there any people who would like to speak to this application?

18:28Chair Smith, I can confirm no delegation requests have been received.

18:32Thank you very much. At this point, committee members, do we have a motion for this application?

18:45Member Balaman. Through you, Mr. Chair, that the application be approved with conditions

18:55in accordance with the staff comments. Okay. And do we have a seconder?

19:00Member Maron Braino. And any discussion on this? Seeing none, Madam Secretary Treasurer,

19:14would you call the vote please? Thank you, Chair. Committee members, please indicate your vote by

19:20responding in favor or opposed to the motion, which is to approve the application with the four

19:24recommended staff conditions. Chair Smith. In favor. Member Balaman. In favor. Member Goodfellow.

19:33Member Maron Braino. In favor. Member Seir. In favor. Member Seigl. In favor. And member Spears.

19:43In favor. That's carried, Chair. Thank you. Your application has been approved.

19:50Thank you. You're free to leave the chamber. Thank you. Thank you for your time today.

19:53You're welcome. Madam Secretary Treasurer, may we have the next application, please?

20:02The next and final application is file A-25-24, variance to permit increased gross floor area

20:16for commercial entertainment and restaurant uses at 219 Silver Creek Parkway, Silver Creek Parkway

20:22North and 292 Speedvale Avenue West. I'll note for those attending remotely, if you wish to speak

20:28to this application, you can do so by calling the number displayed on the screen. That's 519-822-1260

20:36extension 2524. And when you call in, staff will give you instructions on how you can delegate

20:40remotely. Is the applicant here? Yes. Please come forward. Good afternoon. Can you state your

20:57name for the record, please? Julian Smith. And your relationship to this application? I'm the agent.

21:06Thank you. And was the sign posted as per the planning act? Yes. It's also a corner property,

21:13so two signs are posted. Great. And can you tell me if you've read staff's comments and if you're

21:20in agreement? Yes, I read the staff report and we are in agreement. We have 10 minutes. So avail

21:28yourself to as much or as little of that as you'd like. Thank you. So this is a variance to the new

21:37zoning bylaw, which places a restriction on the amount of ground floor area that can be used for

21:44restaurant or commercial entertainment use. It restricts it to 500 meters squared. And at present,

21:51the property is over that. It also restricts any future restaurants from coming onto the property.

22:00So this is strictly being done in order to address any future businesses that want to come to the

22:06property. We're proposing that the ground floor area be adjusted to 30% for restaurant and commercial

22:14entertainment use. And that 30% is based on surrounding lands that have that same restriction.

22:25The surrounding lands range from about 20 to 50% of the lots having restaurant uses. So what we're

22:34proposing at 30% is consistent with surrounding lands. There's no changes to the site. There's no

22:41development. The buildings will stay as is. This is just strictly to adjust for vacant units on the

22:48property that may want to accommodate future restaurants. Thank you. That's very concise. If

22:55you want to wait right there, my colleagues may have some questions for you. Committee members,

23:00do we have any questions of this applicant? Member Goodfellow.

23:09Yes, actually, through the chair to the applicant. My question is about the other comparable

23:14properties that you evaluated. I did take a look. I understand that, yes, they are all

23:20similar in some ways, but they're all much smaller. I guess were there other locations that you

23:26evaluated that were of an approximately the same similar size? Because I think I'm just trying to

23:35reconcile in my head the 30% 500 square feet, square meters at 30% is quite a bit different than 1800

23:46at 30%. So just trying to understand if you had looked at some other properties as well. Thank you.

23:54Yeah, through the chair, we did not look at other properties. The property itself is quite large.

24:02It's two hectares in size, which is much larger than the properties that we were looking at.

24:08So when you compare a smaller property with more coverage versus a bigger property with less coverage,

24:15you're bound to have less space dedicated to restaurant use. So we didn't think it was necessary

24:22to look at other properties. Thank you. Was that it member Goodfellow? I believe it is. Member,

24:37I see member Siegel, please. Member Siegel. Thanks through you the chair to the applicant.

24:44Are the vacant units already designated for ICI use? Sorry for the restaurant,

24:52like is the original design of them for the restaurant use?

24:55It depends because this is a it's a commercial site or commercial plaza and tenants come and go.

25:03So they can alter the units per the use. I don't know exactly what function the

25:11the vacant units were previously, but I do know that they can be adapted to the use that comes in.

25:19Okay. Yeah, so they were and ICI's industrial commercial institutionals, they were in that

25:25realm of use anyways. Okay. Thank you. Are there any other questions of the applicant?

25:37I do have a question and I think it's more to staff. In touring the site, I don't necessarily

25:48have an issue with what's being proposed, but I do note that some of the units are

25:56relatively close to the fence line of the townhouses at 261 Silver Creek, although they are

26:03the rear of those units and it's it's perhaps a quiet spot there now, but we're a restaurant to go in

26:16and decide that they want they want to reverse the frontage and have it at at the back.

26:24It might impact the residents of 261 Silver Creek and I'm curious if there's some way that we could

26:38nip that in the bud. I don't want to be zoning by other methods, but I'm just wondering if there's

26:47some condition and it would also depend on whether or not the applicant was okay with this of

26:54making sure that the the rear of the property, I believe it's on Speedvale, could not be

27:05could not be reversed so that the front of the restaurant and and any associated noise would

27:11continue to be on the into the court rather than projecting into the into the neighboring properties.

27:21I'm struggling. Can you help me? Perhaps while you're having that discussion, I'll ask the

27:44proponent would that be an issue as far as your clients are concerned? My my my thought is to

27:51restrict any noise associated with a restaurant or a bar from projecting back into the neighborhood

27:59and so I was hoping we could come up with some words that would say that a restaurant

28:07would not have its frontage open to the to the rear of the unit. If I follow you correctly,

28:17you're saying the back of the property where that building is, it's an L shaped building

28:22having some kind of restriction on the type of uses that could go there? I'm not suggesting any sort of

28:32suggesting anything as for use. However, were we to say okay 30% of this development could be

28:43restaurant perhaps? Oh thank you. There are two as you can see them vacant spots between Burnside

28:52and another office on the bottom right hand corner of this plan. Were those to be combined into one

29:02restaurant slash bar and their entertainment to be part of that bar's business model?

29:13Potentially now they could have the garage doors open to the back and music could

29:21or dancing or smoking outside or whatever could could filter out into the neighborhood and I'm

29:28wondering if if if we said something to the effect that the rear could not be used in that fashion

29:40if that would be something that you could go along with?

29:42I would say that I don't think it's necessary that part of this site has historically been for

29:53offices and there's been some long-time office tenants in that part of the part of the site.

29:59As you can see the restaurants kind of cluster at the front that would be more ideal for a

30:05restaurant to be because it's more visible and easily accessible and then that long skinny building

30:10more the retail. I don't think it's necessary but

30:18and I also don't think that anything that went in there would back on to the residential property

30:25but if that's a condition that you want to impose I would I guess that could be reasonable

30:34if we are restricting any rear-facing uses. Okay thanks thanks for your opinion.

30:42Yeah. Do you have a chair just to speak to zoning?

30:48A nightclub is a permitted use in the MUC zone but when it does a but a residential property

30:55which this does the nightclub use or brewery or distillery use is not permitted on the lot

31:04so that could alleviate the nightclub use not the restaurant use.

31:08Outdoor patios are not permitted adjacent to the residential zone. Thank you for that so my

31:19grappling with this is more or less mute so thank you for that I do appreciate it so I'm not going

31:25to pursue this any further. Yes member Malamud. Through the chair to either the staff or the

31:33applicant I don't see anything with respect to parking in the in the staff report and is there a

31:41difference with respect to parking for restaurants versus other retail and would that much more

31:53restaurant going on the site impact the number of parking spaces that are currently on the site?

32:44Through the chair to member Balaban it's a multi-unit building and when a multi-unit building has

32:51multiple commercial uses within it it does have just a standard parking ratio. Let me just I just

32:59want to confirm oh but there is a note where a restaurant or a nightclub use occupies more than

33:0630% of the gross floor area of the multi-unit building then additional parking does need to be

33:15required for the restaurant use but this is right at 30% so we are okay. Thank you for that.

33:27Thank you good discussion. Are there any oh yes member Goodfellow. Yes thank you chair. This is

33:37discussion has prompted another question. I appreciated through the chair to the city

33:42staff I appreciate the comments about restaurants. I also noticed that commercial entertainment would

33:47be a permitted use under this new this change and can you just comment on whether your earlier

33:55comments about openings and residential and locations relative to residential are the same

34:02for commercial entertainment as for the restaurants? Yeah through the chair the commercial outdoor

34:16patios apply to every use if it's related to a restaurant or any other use and commercial

34:26entertainment I like to think of those as like escape rooms. What else do we see for commercial

34:33entertainment uses billiards but yes like the outdoor patio is for all uses not just a restaurant

34:43use like adjacent to residential it's restricted. Okay yes through the chair to the city staff thank

34:50you that's helpful and your comment about what would be included in that category is also helpful

34:55because I wasn't sure what types of establishments normally see under that under that heading so

35:02thank you I appreciate that. Thank you any other questions of this applicant we're still on the

35:10question phase seeing none committee members oh before I jump to committee members are there any

35:21members of the public either in the gallery yes please come forward. It's on okay my name's Lisa

35:43McWinney honorable chair and I live on Willow Road which is close to Silver Creek and I walk in that

35:49neighborhood frequently I have a number of safety concerns about this particular applicant's

35:56reasoning for the application there's a few of them so I did walk by late at night one night and

36:03the place was packed full of standing people so if I understand it's not delegated or approved for

36:12nightclub use that's definitely what it appeared to be there didn't appear to be any tables it

36:18seemed to be packed to pack wall to wall with standing people also the name on the business

36:24has already been changed although I understand the application was made from 360 was it ma'am

36:31it was made by 360 Silver Creek was it? The applicant will answer your questions. Oh sorry sorry sorry

36:40just so you're aware the process is that you can make comments and you can post questions

36:47but it's not a discussion at the point. Okay sorry I just I'm just asking for clarification of the

36:52name of the applicant. Can I when I ask who the clarification of the applicant's name sir

37:04I just I'm just asking the the applicant's name that applied for the zoning change or the

37:12change in floor space. The applicant is for two the owners of of the whole property.

37:25Okay but I understand it was it was listed under 360 Silver Creek is that not how it was?

37:31I'm going to defer to the secretary treasure to answer your question. Okay thank you.

37:37Through the chair so this is an application so the subject property is 219 Silver Creek Parkway

37:41North and 292 Speedvale Avenue West the owner's name is RML Corporation. Okay and the agent is

37:49appearing before us. Okay so I did notice that the name hit change had already been made I don't

37:54know if that was done legally. I have other safety concerns in the sense that I believe on the first

38:02night of opening there was a violent attack at that bar or I call it a bar now so that's a concern

38:09at this time so I'm wondering whether there's proper security. I'm wondering also if the liquor

38:16license is being adhered to in the sense I believe there's supposed to be a menu if liquor is to

38:22be served and I know some restaurants try to get around it by serving you know less than menu items

38:31that's a concern so if there's violence there on the first night then my concern is that at this

38:36time I would like it. I'm just going to stop you for a little bit we're not the licensing board

38:41we're not liquor licensing and the premise of this is whether or not we can allow expanded

38:49restaurant use so if you'd like to keep your comments to that. I guess the reason I'm making it

38:57sir is because if that particular restaurant is making the application my forward thinking is that

39:02particular owner expects to expand into other areas to open a similar so if he's already holding

39:09events he or she or they are already holding events that are not appropriate for that location and

39:15already having violence I would like to see it deferred until some of these so that they're

39:20bouncing is so their security is properly in place that their liquor license is properly in place

39:26before we start giving them permission to expand into other areas especially backed on to a residential

39:34neighborhood and other things so that's just my concerns or it like it's like I said it was it was

39:39packed to pack people I've also noticed an increase in women's clothing lying around the property

39:46after events so that's all I'm not naive sir I know what goes on in bars and that I've been in that

39:51restaurant bar when it was owned by other people and it was legit tables restaurants pool table

39:58but that's not what I saw that day so like I said sir my forward thinking is if the applicants asking

40:04this early on then they already have pre-plans to open similar things in that plaza and that's my

40:12concern right like if they're already not or perhaps not doing things right then that's only

40:18going to snowball you know and it might be harder to reel them in and and remove the permission

40:23than it would be to just have some safety concerns looked at prior to granting it like just a little

40:30bit more supervision would would be my concern like I said considering there are children and

40:37you know the people behind them yeah that would be my concern so thank you for allowing me to speak

40:44oh you're welcome and if you want to stand by I believe the owner is on the line and

40:52may be able to answer some of your questions so thank you very much for your presentation thank

40:56you for your time Madam Secretary Treasurer am I correct in that assumption Mr. Chair we do have

41:05Maeve a representative from RML joining us via video they just need to turn on their video

41:12um before we do that can I just ask if there are any other members of the audience

41:25or online who would like to speak to this seeing none in the chamber are there any online

41:38Mr. Chair I can confirm no calls okay so at this point if uh if the owner would like to

41:48uh turn their connection on can we get you to unmute sorry I don't know can you see me no you

42:09can't my video is on there okay we can't see you but we can hear you now so can you state your name

42:16and your association my name is Maeve Callery I'm a vice president with RML Corporation and I

42:22oversee a lot of our commercial properties as far as leasing thank you and I I'm sure you've heard

42:29some of the issues that have been raised and I wonder if you could respond to them yes I'm I'm

42:35not sure exactly what they're pertaining to um this is an application all the obviously by us as

42:42the owners of the property uh we have many tendencies on this property it's at a corner

42:48where there's commercial on all four corners and we are looking to do some more restaurant uses

42:55and as a member of staff was stating uses that are commercial entertainment which are

43:00becoming quite popular such as you know golf simulators is another example to escape rooms

43:06and there's very limited restaurants there's Papa John's we've got a wonderful cafe called

43:12Puffle Puffle Cafe at the owner or at the corner if no one's been there it's absolutely fabulous

43:17so we have some very strong commercial tenants there I can't comment on these other

43:21comments that were made I'm unaware of them I'm not sure what they're recording

43:25we have an actual excellent property management department within our company

43:30so I'll relay them but I'm completely unaware of them I'm not sure what they're recording or

43:34if they're in regard to a particular tenant they sound very unfamiliar to me thank you

43:43do you have anything else to add to that now

43:48nope okay great thank you you just sort of trailed off so I just wanted to be sure that I hadn't

43:57I hadn't cut you off at this point in the proceedings we're going to entertain a motion

44:03and so colleagues do we have a motion for this application member Spears

44:15I move approval of this application as as it is without any conditions

44:20and do we have a seconder member Marene no and at this point we'd like to have some discussion

44:33any discussion on the motion before us before we vote seeing none Madam Secretary

44:42Secretary Treasurer may we have the vote called please committee members please indicate your

44:49vote by responding in favor or opposed to the motion which is to approve the application

44:55Chair Smith in favor member Balaban in favor member Goodfellow in favor

45:04member Mambrenio in favor member Sayer favor member Segal and member Spears in favor that's

45:16Kerry chair thank you your application has been approved I believe that comes to the end of our

45:31agenda items Madam Secretary Treasurer do we have any staff announcements

45:38thank you chair I just have one brief update on an item that was mentioned at the last hearing

45:45the appeal regarding the committee's decision to approve file a 1624 which was for 1859 Victoria

45:54Road south at the March 14th 2024 hearing has now been withdrawn so the committee's decision to

46:01approve the application is now final so that's the only announcement I have Mr. Chair thank you

46:08Madam Secretary Treasurer at this point I think we're ready for adjournment do I have a motion for

46:15that member Balaban and a seconder member Goodfellow all those in favor thank you members of committee

46:31and audience and staff thank you again and we will